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Title: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2017, 08:27:10 PM
Title pretty much says it all. Lets get some basic rules set in so we're all on the same page. Here's what I have so far:

- Any center fire .22 rifle is eligible
- Must use a bullet of at least 69gr
- Target must be no larger than 10"
- 10 shots fired, no time constraints
- Video or credible witnesses if possible
- Range must be at least 300 yards

Bonus points for the following:
- Using a semi auto (bonus, bonus points for using an AR ;))
- Moving targets
- Rapid fire
- Groups under .5 MOA

If there's any adjustment you want to see, just let me know. I don't have a center fire 22 right now so I'm out on this one at the moment.

Let the games begin!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: AWS on January 02, 2017, 08:32:03 PM
Why a min. of 69gr, most 22 cal centerfires use a lighter bullet.  Or is this just for the fast twist aficionados.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2017, 08:45:03 PM
It's a spin off from this thread.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,205241.msg2753036/topicseen.html#new

I though this would be fun enough to warrant its own thread befor the other one gets derailed even more!  :chuckle:

Feel free to jump in with whatever you've got though. I may do it with a 68gr bullet from my 6mm BR pistol just to play along.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jolten on January 02, 2017, 08:52:00 PM
What about a .22mag with a fixed 4x scope?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
Tagging along :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 02, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
What about a .22mag with a fixed 4x scope?

Not a centerfire and it's not pushing any bullets as big as 69 grains.

Otherwise perfect  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2017, 09:04:36 PM
What about a .22mag with a fixed 4x scope?

I say go for it just because I want to see how well you do. Go all out though and try for rapid fire on movers! :tup:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 02, 2017, 09:16:54 PM
I wish I had a scope on my ar!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: h20hunter on January 02, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
I will offer up a sleeve of .22 ammo of my chosing for the majority agreed upon winner of this challenge.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2017, 09:25:22 PM
Do we get more points for farther?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 02, 2017, 09:29:38 PM
To cold for me to go out and target practice !!! Haha
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2017, 09:32:37 PM
Do we get more points for farther?

No, we make fun of you for being that kid in class that throws the grading curve.  >:( :chuckle:

I will offer up a sleeve of .22 ammo of my chosing for the majority agreed upon winner of this challenge.

Nice! I'll come up with an official "2017 300 yard challenge" sticker for the winner and put their name on it.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2017, 09:34:06 PM
To cold for me to go out and target practice !!! Haha

Wimp! It was 24* when I was out shooting earlier today!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Bill W on January 02, 2017, 09:41:04 PM
It's a spin off from this thread.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,205241.msg2753036/topicseen.html#new

I though this would be fun enough to warrant its own thread befor the other one gets derailed even more!  :chuckle:

Feel free to jump in with whatever you've got though. I may do it with a 68gr bullet from my 6mm BR pistol just to play along.

I got a 6mm that would do quite well in this event.  Only thing is the barrel isn't screwed on the action.  Not quite sure where the action wrench is also.   I shot BR before moving to the dry side.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2017, 09:42:21 PM
Do we get more points for farther?

No, we make fun of you for being that kid in class that throws the grading curve.  >:( :chuckle:

I will offer up a sleeve of .22 ammo of my chosing for the majority agreed upon winner of this challenge.

Nice! I'll come up with an official "2017 300 yard challenge" sticker for the winner and put their name on it.
darn :'(
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2017, 09:43:55 PM
To cold for me to go out and target practice !!! Haha

Wimp! It was 24* when I was out shooting earlier today!
18 and gusting to 20 yesterday but you gotta practice like you play 8)
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 02, 2017, 09:49:18 PM
To cold for me to go out and target practice !!! Haha

Wimp! It was 24* when I was out shooting earlier today!
18 and gusting to 20 yesterday but you gotta practice like you play 8)
... yep definitely "that kid"...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2017, 09:54:22 PM
To cold for me to go out and target practice !!! Haha

Wimp! It was 24* when I was out shooting earlier today!
18 and gusting to 20 yesterday but you gotta practice like you play 8)
... yep definitely "that kid"...  :chuckle:
  rule #2 bro, play like a champion!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Ddouble on January 02, 2017, 10:36:20 PM
Is there a deadline? I'm thinking end of April?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 02, 2017, 11:18:55 PM
None of my 22 center fires shoot that heavy of a bullet my main gun shoots a 52 grain amax that would be my suggestion no bullet weight restriction
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jolten on January 03, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
What about a .22mag with a fixed 4x scope?

I say go for it just because I want to see how well you do. Go all out though and try for rapid fire on movers! :tup:

When and where will determine if I'm able to go. You going to load up the 6.5badger with a super lightweight just to show off?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Gringo31 on January 03, 2017, 10:56:20 AM
Quote
None of my 22 center fires shoot that heavy of a bullet my main gun shoots a 52 grain amax that would be my suggestion no bullet weight restriction

 :yeah:

I got a 204 that would be my go to if it would be eligible.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: gilroym on January 03, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
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Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Timberstalker on January 03, 2017, 04:03:10 PM
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Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 03, 2017, 04:04:27 PM
Russians hacked his HW.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jrebel on January 03, 2017, 04:10:30 PM
Why a bullet weight requirement?  Does it really effect a persons ability to group 10 shots at 300 yards?  I would love to participate, but don't shoot that heavy a bullet out of either my .223 or .22-250.  Any chance we can remove that requirement? 
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 03, 2017, 04:25:31 PM
Why a bullet weight requirement?  Does it really effect a persons ability to group 10 shots at 300 yards?  I would love to participate, but don't shoot that heavy a bullet out of either my .223 or .22-250.  Any chance we can remove that requirement?
There's a range in your velocity, where the shooting/groups open up linearly over the range.  So, a 1/4" group at 50 yds will be 1/2" at 100 yds will be 1" at 200 yds, etc.  It will eventually get to a point where the bullet has slowed down enough that it is underspun and the groups open up non-linearly.  So, you go from 1/4 (50), 1/2 (100), 1 (200), 1 1/4 (250) then jump to something like 3 inches at 300 (or whatever the distance is where your velocity drops).  Most easily seen with the longer, narrow bullets (usually the heavier ones).
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 03, 2017, 04:28:22 PM
Why a bullet weight requirement?  Does it really effect a persons ability to group 10 shots at 300 yards?  I would love to participate, but don't shoot that heavy a bullet out of either my .223 or .22-250.  Any chance we can remove that requirement?
It was a bet put forth by another member in a different thread.

Run what ya brung and just go shoot!  :chuckle:
I'm sure the op won't mind as long as your out there.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jrebel on January 03, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
Why a bullet weight requirement?  Does it really effect a persons ability to group 10 shots at 300 yards?  I would love to participate, but don't shoot that heavy a bullet out of either my .223 or .22-250.  Any chance we can remove that requirement?
There's a range in your velocity, where the shooting/groups open up linearly over the range.  So, a 1/4" group at 50 yds will be 1/2" at 100 yds will be 1" at 200 yds, etc.  It will eventually get to a point where the bullet has slowed down enough that it is underspun and the groups open up non-linearly.  So, you go from 1/4 (50), 1/2 (100), 1 (200), 1 1/4 (250) then jump to something like 3 inches at 300 (or whatever the distance is where your velocity drops).  Most easily seen with the longer, narrow bullets (usually the heavier ones).

Thanks for the explanation.   :tup: 
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on January 03, 2017, 04:32:38 PM
Why a bullet weight requirement?  Does it really effect a persons ability to group 10 shots at 300 yards?  I would love to participate, but don't shoot that heavy a bullet out of either my .223 or .22-250.  Any chance we can remove that requirement?
There's a range in your velocity, where the shooting/groups open up linearly over the range.  So, a 1/4" group at 50 yds will be 1/2" at 100 yds will be 1" at 200 yds, etc.  It will eventually get to a point where the bullet has slowed down enough that it is underspun and the groups open up non-linearly.  So, you go from 1/4 (50), 1/2 (100), 1 (200), 1 1/4 (250) then jump to something like 3 inches at 300 (or whatever the distance is where your velocity drops).  Most easily seen with the longer, narrow bullets (usually the heavier ones).

Great explanation.  Thanks for that.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 03, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
I said usually heavier ones....barnes bullets tend to be tough.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: gilroym on January 03, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
Haha gave my son my old smart phone.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: kisfish on January 03, 2017, 05:02:23 PM
tagging
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 03, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
I said usually heavier ones....barnes bullets tend to be tough.

They tend to be worth their weight in sewage
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: hunter399 on January 03, 2017, 06:15:12 PM
I'm thinking about playing along.I have no range finder,so I would have to step it off.and negative cold temps right now.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 03, 2017, 06:30:05 PM
I noticed ol' "foghorn" hasn't spouted off here yet
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on January 03, 2017, 06:38:17 PM
Tagging
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Timberstalker on January 03, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
I said usually heavier ones....barnes bullets tend to be tough.

They tend to be worth their weight in sewage

That's a crappy analogy.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 03, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
I said usually heavier ones....barnes bullets tend to be tough.

They tend to be worth their weight in sewage

That's a crappy analogy.
i always thought they were turds
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: wildweeds on January 04, 2017, 05:34:24 PM
I might be up for this challenge, I have an AR I had my navy vet coworker put together, he's a machinest. I did all the parts research and he worked his magic. It shoots 3/8 groups at 200 meters if you can do your part. And that's with 50 grain vmax, hunting ammo by Fioochi.  I generally do real good till the last shot then fling one wild to minute of coyote. Lol. I have some 69 grain federal match ammo, might be a good thing to try it out on.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 04, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
I might be up for this challenge, I have an AR I had my navy vet coworker put together, he's a machinest. I did all the parts research and he worked his magic. It shoots 3/8 groups at 200 meters if you can do your part. And that's with 50 grain vmax, hunting ammo by Fioochi.  I generally do real good till the last shot then fling one wild to minute of coyote. Lol. I have some 69 grain federal match ammo, might be a good thing to try it out on.
  That's beyond amazing!  That's under quarter minute from an AR!  Can't wait to see what you can do at 300!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: buglebuster on January 04, 2017, 06:03:52 PM
To cold for me to go out and target practice !!! Haha

Wimp! It was 24* when I was out shooting earlier today!
18 and gusting to 20 yesterday but you gotta practice like you play 8)
It was 9 when we went a couple weeks ago
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: fowl smacker on January 04, 2017, 06:07:01 PM
I might be up for this challenge, I have an AR I had my navy vet coworker put together, he's a machinest. I did all the parts research and he worked his magic. It shoots 3/8 groups at 200 meters if you can do your part. And that's with 50 grain vmax, hunting ammo by Fioochi.  I generally do real good till the last shot then fling one wild to minute of coyote. Lol. I have some 69 grain federal match ammo, might be a good thing to try it out on.

What's twist is the barrel?  Generally if a barrel shoots 50gr. bullets well, it won't shoot 69 gr or heavier well.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: wildweeds on January 04, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
It is a JP  precision supermatch barrell. 1in 8 twist, young machine national match Bolt group with the JP bolt that came with the Barrel. I'm convinced that the hand lapped Cryogenic treating has something to do with it. Not a cheap endeavor. But the grin you get at hitting running 400 yard prarie dogs is priceless.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 04, 2017, 06:27:46 PM
insofar as your last sentence is concerned... I'd believe "hitting" or "running" but not both!  :yike:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: wildweeds on January 04, 2017, 07:27:08 PM
True story, best shot (which was mostly luck) I've ever made. The kid doing the spotting was really jacked up about it, I was too. Prarie dogs have a lumbering kind of gait so maybe it was scampering. I can still see it, had aboUT a foot of lead from cross hairs to nose. Basically he ran into it.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 04, 2017, 10:34:24 PM
Pretty sweet. I shot a flying grouse with a 22 once but it was a lot closer than that  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jaymark6655 on January 05, 2017, 07:42:08 AM
Tagging for later submission.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Yondering on January 05, 2017, 10:16:46 AM

What's twist is the barrel?  Generally if a barrel shoots 50gr. bullets well, it won't shoot 69 gr or heavier well.

Not really. In fact, all of my fast twist barrels also shoot 50gr varmint bullets well. In my 1:8 twist 16" barrel, the 50gr stuff is generally the easiest to find good loads for, but it also shoots 75 & 77gr well.

The "light bullets don't shoot well in fast twists" idea is just a holdover from back when bullets were less concentric and consistent than they are now. With good modern bullets, it's not really true anymore, in my experience.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Blacklab on January 05, 2017, 10:47:42 AM
I'll play when it gets started  ;)
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Caseyd on January 05, 2017, 11:14:43 AM
I'll play also. Unfortunately -7 in tonasket so going to have to wait lol
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on January 05, 2017, 05:30:46 PM
Little cold this week but I'll play. My ar is 16" and 1:7 twist. It hates 50-60gr but loves the 77gr ncc's & H4895 Im shooting.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 06, 2017, 08:10:44 AM
I'm out with my 50 gr. triple duece. 
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: PolarBear on January 06, 2017, 08:19:40 AM
How about a .22 rimfire to make it an actual challenge?   :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 06, 2017, 08:24:59 AM
How about a .22 rimfire to make it an actual challenge?   :chuckle:

A mover will make it a challenge.......

Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on January 06, 2017, 08:55:04 AM
How about a .22 rimfire to make it an actual challenge?   :chuckle:

A mover will make it a challenge.......



I'm ready.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: NRA4LIFE on January 06, 2017, 09:15:12 AM
Well, since my only .22 center fire is a Ruger Mini 14, I'm obviously out....
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: PolarBear on January 06, 2017, 09:29:32 AM
How about a .22 rimfire to make it an actual challenge?   :chuckle:

A mover will make it a challenge.......




I'm ready.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Caseyd on January 06, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
Well, since my only .22 center fire is a Ruger Mini 14, I'm obviously out....

You can't just give up like that......the A Team wouldn't  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Blacklab on January 06, 2017, 10:24:16 AM
speaking of ready I haven't even finished load development yet.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 06, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
speaking of ready I haven't even finished load development yet.



Pffft, that won't work at all. Your only chance is to spray and pray!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 06, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
speaking of ready I haven't even finished load development yet.



Pffft, that won't work at all. Your only chance is to spray and pray!
Mag dump!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Blacklab on January 06, 2017, 11:12:49 AM
I can do that as well  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 07, 2017, 08:57:38 AM
Anyone gonna build an eargosplitten loudenboomer for this?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 07, 2017, 09:56:44 AM
Anyone gonna build an eargosplitten loudenboomer for this?

I'm looking into it right now. I have a pile of 338 SnipeTac cases just waiting to get necked down. :tup:

Since this whole thing as take off a bit more than I expected, I suppose it should be opened up to all .22 center fires. How about if everyone just give the specs on the load they used to shoot the group so that we can distinguish between the light weight loads and the heavy bullet loads? The 69+ grain bullet weight was a carry over from the other thread but if everybody agrees on leaving it open to all weights I'm fine with that. Hey JJB11B, maybe you should start a poll! :chuckle:

My other thought is to make this a monthly contest. Every month can be a different bore diameter. This keeps it fair for folks who only have a couple of guns or just don't have a .22 center fire. It also keeps one guy from running a 6 PPC in a heavy BR rig and just dominating every months contest! Let me know what everyone thinks.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Ddouble on January 07, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
Anyone gonna build an eargosplitten loudenboomer for this?

I'm looking into it right now. I have a pile of 338 SnipeTac cases just waiting to get necked down. :tup:

Since this whole thing as take off a bit more than I expected, I suppose it should be opened up to all .22 center fires. How about if everyone just give the specs on the load they used to shoot the group so that we can distinguish between the light weight loads and the heavy bullet loads? The 69+ grain bullet weight was a carry over from the other thread but if everybody agrees on leaving it open to all weights I'm fine with that. Hey JJB11B, maybe you should start a poll! :chuckle:

My other thought is to make this a monthly contest. Every month can be a different bore diameter. This keeps it fair for folks who only have a couple of guns or just don't have a .22 center fire. It also keeps one guy from running a 6 PPC in a heavy BR rig and just dominating every months contest! Let me know what everyone thinks.
Different caliber every month that's justification for the CFO that I need a new gun every month... hmmm
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on January 07, 2017, 12:35:13 PM
Anyone gonna build an eargosplitten loudenboomer for this?

I'm looking into it right now. I have a pile of 338 SnipeTac cases just waiting to get necked down. :tup:

Since this whole thing as take off a bit more than I expected, I suppose it should be opened up to all .22 center fires. How about if everyone just give the specs on the load they used to shoot the group so that we can distinguish between the light weight loads and the heavy bullet loads? The 69+ grain bullet weight was a carry over from the other thread but if everybody agrees on leaving it open to all weights I'm fine with that. Hey JJB11B, maybe you should start a poll! :chuckle:

My other thought is to make this a monthly contest. Every month can be a different bore diameter. This keeps it fair for folks who only have a couple of guns or just don't have a .22 center fire. It also keeps one guy from running a 6 PPC in a heavy BR rig and just dominating every months contest! Let me know what everyone thinks.
Different caliber every month that's justification for the CFO that I need a new gun every month... hmmm

You're welcome! :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 28, 2017, 06:01:43 PM
Finally got my rifle together enough to go to the range, she's still rocking the PSA trigger that comes in a Lower Parts Kit. CMC trigger should be here Monday or Tuesday, had just enough light to get her on paper and shoot a couple quick groups at 100 yds. I didn't have enough time to shoot the 62gr bullets but she likes the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Which is handy because my 1:10" barrelled 22-250 likes those too. More to come soon! This was from the prone in the bed of my truck... in my buddies field
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 28, 2017, 06:11:20 PM
Finally got my rifle together enough to go to the range, she's still rocking the PSA trigger that comes in a Lower Parts Kit. CMC trigger should be here Monday or Tuesday, had just enough light to get her on paper and shoot a couple quick groups at 100 yds. I didn't have enough time to shoot the 62gr bullets but she likes the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Which is handy because my 1:10" barrelled 22-250 likes those too. More to come soon! This was from the prone in the bed of my truck... in my buddies field

Not bad for a bunch of junk purchased on the internet :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 28, 2017, 06:22:03 PM
Finally got my rifle together enough to go to the range, she's still rocking the PSA trigger that comes in a Lower Parts Kit. CMC trigger should be here Monday or Tuesday, had just enough light to get her on paper and shoot a couple quick groups at 100 yds. I didn't have enough time to shoot the 62gr bullets but she likes the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Which is handy because my 1:10" barrelled 22-250 likes those too. More to come soon! This was from the prone in the bed of my truck... in my buddies field

Not bad for a bunch of junk purchased on the internet :chuckle:
haha! Thanks. It's like lego's!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 28, 2017, 07:07:45 PM
Finally got my rifle together enough to go to the range, she's still rocking the PSA trigger that comes in a Lower Parts Kit. CMC trigger should be here Monday or Tuesday, had just enough light to get her on paper and shoot a couple quick groups at 100 yds. I didn't have enough time to shoot the 62gr bullets but she likes the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Which is handy because my 1:10" barrelled 22-250 likes those too. More to come soon! This was from the prone in the bed of my truck... in my buddies field

Not bad for a bunch of junk purchased on the internet :chuckle:
haha! Thanks. It's like lego's!
now I am curious to try a 20"-22"-24" barrels to see what differences they make
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Reidus on January 28, 2017, 08:17:13 PM
Finally got my rifle together enough to go to the range, she's still rocking the PSA trigger that comes in a Lower Parts Kit. CMC trigger should be here Monday or Tuesday, had just enough light to get her on paper and shoot a couple quick groups at 100 yds. I didn't have enough time to shoot the 62gr bullets but she likes the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Which is handy because my 1:10" barrelled 22-250 likes those too. More to come soon! This was from the prone in the bed of my truck... in my buddies field

What buttstock is that on their?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: DaveMonti on January 28, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
Great.  Now I have to go buy another rifle.  Darn. 
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: actionshooter on January 28, 2017, 09:43:00 PM
Anyone gonna build an eargosplitten loudenboomer for this?

I'm looking into it right now. I have a pile of 338 SnipeTac cases just waiting to get necked down. :tup:

Since this whole thing as take off a bit more than I expected, I suppose it should be opened up to all .22 center fires. How about if everyone just give the specs on the load they used to shoot the group so that we can distinguish between the light weight loads and the heavy bullet loads? The 69+ grain bullet weight was a carry over from the other thread but if everybody agrees on leaving it open to all weights I'm fine with that. Hey JJB11B, maybe you should start a poll! :chuckle:

My other thought is to make this a monthly contest. Every month can be a different bore diameter. This keeps it fair for folks who only have a couple of guns or just don't have a .22 center fire. It also keeps one guy from running a 6 PPC in a heavy BR rig and just dominating every months contest! Let me know what everyone thinks.

Every month sounds cool.....
Wished I would have seen this sooner, I was doing load development today....but not at 300.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on January 28, 2017, 09:57:37 PM
Finally got my rifle together enough to go to the range, she's still rocking the PSA trigger that comes in a Lower Parts Kit. CMC trigger should be here Monday or Tuesday, had just enough light to get her on paper and shoot a couple quick groups at 100 yds. I didn't have enough time to shoot the 62gr bullets but she likes the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Which is handy because my 1:10" barrelled 22-250 likes those too. More to come soon! This was from the prone in the bed of my truck... in my buddies field

What buttstock is that on their?
MagPul UBR and I really really like it!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: thinkingman on January 28, 2017, 11:01:53 PM
I have a box of HSM 90gr VLD ammo I someone want to really reach out there.
50 rods.
Make a reasonable offer.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on February 02, 2017, 11:20:44 PM
bump.... for updated pics. Did a home camo job, used Brownells Alumahyde. Also installed a CMC 3.5 lb single stage trigger. Ready to go hunting!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on February 03, 2017, 06:44:35 AM
Looks good but how's it shoot
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 03, 2017, 08:53:57 AM
When it clears up, I'll shoot some groups and post some gloat pictures. Somehow I think I can squeeze them all into a paper plate.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: bearpaw on February 03, 2017, 05:52:45 PM
Anyone gonna build an eargosplitten loudenboomer for this?

I'm looking into it right now. I have a pile of 338 SnipeTac cases just waiting to get necked down. :tup:

Since this whole thing as take off a bit more than I expected, I suppose it should be opened up to all .22 center fires. How about if everyone just give the specs on the load they used to shoot the group so that we can distinguish between the light weight loads and the heavy bullet loads? The 69+ grain bullet weight was a carry over from the other thread but if everybody agrees on leaving it open to all weights I'm fine with that. Hey JJB11B, maybe you should start a poll! :chuckle:

My other thought is to make this a monthly contest. Every month can be a different bore diameter. This keeps it fair for folks who only have a couple of guns or just don't have a .22 center fire. It also keeps one guy from running a 6 PPC in a heavy BR rig and just dominating every months contest! Let me know what everyone thinks.

If it's open to bolt actions and lighter bullets I would like to participate. All my .22 centerfire cartridges are loaded with 45, 52 and 55 gr bullets for varmint shooting. The .22 rimfire competition sounds like fun too.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: garrett89 on February 10, 2017, 02:25:15 PM
I wish I had a scope on my ar!
Iron sights are sufficient if you know how to adjust for yardage and wind-age.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 10, 2017, 03:36:44 PM
I wish I had a scope on my ar!
Iron sights are sufficient if you know how to adjust for yardage and wind-age.

For printing sub MOA groups at 300?
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 10, 2017, 04:42:25 PM
I wish I had a scope on my ar!
Iron sights are sufficient if you know how to adjust for yardage and wind-age.
All I have is a 4 moa red dot on it. May not make it too easy to hit a paper plate at 300.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on February 10, 2017, 07:42:11 PM
So pull a good scope off one of the other rifles and site it in
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 10, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
So pull a good scope off one of the other rifles and site it in
But... but... but... then I'd have to play with a gas gun!  :sry:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on February 10, 2017, 08:34:31 PM
So pull a good scope off one of the other rifles and site it in
But... but... but... then I'd have to play with a gas gun!  :sry:  :chuckle:
as long as you don't enjoy it then it's ok.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 11, 2017, 03:58:45 PM
Here's my entry. For @yorketransport and @ JDHasty.

The weapon: .22-250 Interarms, 24" barrel 1-12" twist (pretty sure)
The distance: 304 yards, shooting off a plastic table with a bipod.
The projectile: 73 grain Berger target (thicker jacket)

So it took me all of three loads before I found one that shot sub MOA at 100 yards. Minus the flyer, it would have been MOA at 300. These are cooking plenty fast. I might have to take this rig deer hunting in Idaho this fall.



Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on February 11, 2017, 06:23:06 PM
Amazing shooting.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 11, 2017, 06:49:15 PM
I Can only imagine the group the Jon would have printed if he had kept his mustache!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 11, 2017, 06:55:07 PM
@Johnathon.  :tup:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on February 11, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
I Can only imagine the group the Jon would have printed if he had kept his mustache!

Wow. I can't even imagine.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on February 11, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
I Can only imagine the group the Jon would have printed if he had kept his mustache!

Wow. I can't even imagine.

Do you actually call him "the Jon?" That may have been a typo but I'm forced to wonder.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 11, 2017, 07:36:34 PM
I Can only imagine the group the Jon would have printed if he had kept his mustache!

Wow. I can't even imagine.

Do you actually call him "the Jon?" That may have been a typo but I'm forced to wonder.
Oh no that's what he's called. "The Jon" isn't any typo.  :chuckle: and it doesn't refer to a toilet either.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: coop2424 on February 11, 2017, 07:43:27 PM
I Can only imagine the group the Jon would have printed if he had kept his mustache!

Seriously the Jon's group would of at least been half that if he still had the stash if not maybe even better!!
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 11, 2017, 07:47:38 PM
Damn dark day when theJon's mooostash died. 

And yes Josh, he IS the jon!  There is no other jon out there like him.  He is a champion of champions.  A MAN among men.  He is.......THE JON! :kneel:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on February 11, 2017, 09:15:43 PM
How much fireball will it take before you tell this story? 🙃
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on February 11, 2017, 09:31:43 PM
Clearly this story involves a prostitute.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 11, 2017, 10:05:10 PM
Clearly this story involves a prostitute.
  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: yorketransport on February 11, 2017, 10:44:21 PM
Here's my entry. For @yorketransport and @ JDHasty.

The weapon: .22-250 Interarms, 24" barrel 1-12" twist (pretty sure)
The distance: 304 yards, shooting off a plastic table with a bipod.
The projectile: 73 grain Berger target (thicker jacket)

So it took me all of three loads before I found one that shot sub MOA at 100 yards. Minus the flyer, it would have been MOA at 300. These are cooking plenty fast. I might have to take this rig deer hunting in Idaho this fall.

Good shooting, especially with a 1-12" twist! Since you're the only one to post up a group, you're in first place so far. Now get sighted in with a better hunting bullet and you're good to go. Everyone knows you can't kill anything with Bergers.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 12, 2017, 06:35:09 AM
I'll take that under advisement about the Bergers  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on February 12, 2017, 11:46:41 AM
Congrats, the Jon. First place is a big deal.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on February 12, 2017, 02:59:50 PM
Congrats, the Jon. First place is a big deal.
just to be clear, he is The Jon and I am just plain old Jon haha
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jdb on February 12, 2017, 03:24:58 PM
And I am John
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jackelope on February 12, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
It seems as though there can be only one the Jon
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Dan-o on February 12, 2017, 03:51:31 PM
The Jon or not........   that is some fine shooting.

If I were to post a group, I would be in 2nd place......   and it wouldn't be all that close.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 12, 2017, 05:41:36 PM
I will hopefully gunning for number 1 this weekend.  Get it...."gunning"  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 12, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
I will hopefully gunning for number 1 this weekend.  Get it...."gunning"  :chuckle:

Don't make me load 20 more! Haha yeah I plan on getting smoked if BLRman posts a group
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 12, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
I don't know man, that's some good shootin
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on February 13, 2017, 08:05:26 AM
Pretty impressive shooting heavies with a 1:12 in cold weather to boot 👍🏻👍🏻
Holes look pretty round too.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2017, 08:52:02 AM
Pretty impressive shooting heavies with a 1:12 in cold weather to boot 👍🏻👍🏻
Holes look pretty round too.

It's a bumblebee load. All the books say it won't stabilize but this one does...and he bumblebee flies despite the "laws" of physics.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jasnt on February 13, 2017, 08:54:22 AM
Have you measured the twist? I have a rem that's supposed to be a 9 1/8 twist that is 8 1/2
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2017, 09:21:46 AM
Have you measured the twist? I have a rem that's supposed to be a 9 1/8 twist that is 8 1/2

I did but just with a patch on a rod. It's definitely right around 12". Unless Interarms had some funky batch back in the day
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: Reidus on February 13, 2017, 10:09:59 PM
Just breaking in my new custom 22 LR custom from S and G's Custom. 72hr twist ( means the rifleing rotates 72hrs if it were a clock hand in 305mm of barrel length) Handloaded some 69gr smk's on top of some ammonium nitrate n a pinch of aluminum powder. Shot 1 decent group at 300yds but still in the break in phase so it should get better.  Was shooting in a 10-20 mph gusting crosswind which made it tough. My ti-89 with the calculus feature and taking the theory of relativity into account was showing a gyroscopic stability factor of 0.2 and a lateral phase drift coefficient of 1.1! Freaking amazimg! Super happy with my purchase! Looking forward to doing some real long range work with it.
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: DaveMonti on February 13, 2017, 10:22:47 PM
I find it hard to believe you got the lateral phase drift coefficient down to 1.1.  I've been shooting 22 LR for 47 years, 9 months and 18 days, hand loaded every conceivable incendiary concoction in every brass dimension with EVERY bullet available, even some I designed and cast myself, and the only way I ever sniffed a 1.1 is when my gyroscopic stability factor was 0.17 or less.  I don't know what kind of BS you are pushing, but something about your setup is clearly suspect. 
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on February 13, 2017, 10:29:17 PM
Worlds most accurate rifle. Seen some damn good grouping with this
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: JJB11B on February 21, 2017, 11:33:46 PM
I'm doing some experimenting with my 22-250 and my .223
Title: Re: .22 Center fire 300 yard group challenge
Post by: jaymark6655 on February 22, 2017, 09:01:58 AM
It's a spin off from this thread.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,205241.msg2753036/topicseen.html#new

I though this would be fun enough to warrant its own thread befor the other one gets derailed even more!  :chuckle:

Feel free to jump in with whatever you've got though. I may do it with a 68gr bullet from my 6mm BR pistol just to play along.

I will be using a 68 gr because I already have some of those loaded.

Setup:
3-9 scope
16" barrel with 1-9 twist
68gr only going 2416 fps  (supposed to be 2800 fps in a 24" barrel)
About as much energy as my muzzle loader has at 100 yds.  I usually like to keep it close to 800 ftlbs on deer when using a modern firearm, so that would limit me to 100 yds.
I probably could build up a better deer round, but its 2 hrs one way to the store and 2 hrs one way the opposite direction to the range for testing.
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