Post by: Mtnwalker on January 07, 2017, 10:01:52 AM
http://www.mensjournal.com/features/articles/how-companies-like-kuiu-made-hunting-the-new-action-sport-w454117
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Post by: Mtnwalker on January 07, 2017, 11:04:31 AM
Post by: longrange7mm on January 07, 2017, 11:12:48 AM
I totally understand his reasoning, I'm just surprised he said it like that.
I don't know that hes the kind of guy to sugar coat anything lmao, I respect the guy hes created a great product designed around mountain hunting. How many chubby and fat guys do you see climbing a 12k' peak after a ram or billy? Im a chubby guy and hunt hunt my ass off and I dont take offense to what he said. I can really tell you his clothes dont fit chubby guys I have tried to make them work his clothing line is closer to European sizes than US too.
Post by: LeadNSheds on January 07, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 07, 2017, 12:29:01 PM
http://www.sitkagear.com/womens
Post by: follow maggie on January 07, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
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Post by: Reidus on January 07, 2017, 06:34:14 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on January 07, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
Post by: highside74 on January 07, 2017, 06:49:13 PM
why does it have to be gender specific is all i have on this.My wife wears the same stuff as me in kuiu.what some wont wear it if it doesn't have pink?what on it says man anyway?
Because women are built completely different. Hips, waist, chest are all different in clothing built for a women. That's why gender specific.
Jason didn't come off to well in his comments
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 07, 2017, 06:54:24 PM
For what it's worth, the guy we met was pretty plain spoken and blunt. My son (who is a high school senior) said that he was applying for Army ROTC Scholarships and wanted to major in business. Asked what his chances were of being hired to work for a company like Kuiu straight out of college with a business marketing degree. They guy told him "Zero chance. Do ROTC, be an Army officer, go Ranger or Special Forces, serve a few years. Then we'll talk. We don't hire wusses."
Post by: haugenna on January 07, 2017, 06:55:53 PM
Ohhh man, the ol' lady is not happy with Kuiu. She's been hoping for a ladies line for quite a while. Not to mention that has been her go-to for most of my recent birthdays and such, which I don't mind a bit. Looks like she may be boycotting them now :bash:
http://www.mensjournal.com/features/articles/how-companies-like-kuiu-made-hunting-the-new-action-sport-w454117
If I called my wife "the ol lady" she would be boycotting me. :chuckle:
Kuiu can't keep regular sizes in stock let alone women's sizes. Plus, the way they size things, I doubt a single woman would buy a size 6 that actually fits when they are a size 4.
Post by: grundy53 on January 07, 2017, 07:04:09 PM
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Post by: hughjorgan on January 08, 2017, 12:11:41 AM
I can't stand him. Every time I here him talk on a podcast he sounds like an arrogant D-bag.
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After reading that article the first thing I thought is he is a d bag.
Post by: Stickerbush on January 08, 2017, 12:21:46 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 08, 2017, 04:43:21 AM
Post by: Odell on January 08, 2017, 04:52:59 AM
The guy is abrasive and his business model is maddening. Great warranty service though.
Post by: Taco280AI on January 08, 2017, 05:55:57 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 08, 2017, 07:21:14 AM
Post by: whackmaster on January 08, 2017, 07:32:45 AM
Post by: SuperX on January 08, 2017, 07:38:56 AM
"It's about time somebody made a women's hunting pant that left nothing to chance. Made from the same nylon (not polyester) materials and construction as our popular Corrugate Guide Pant, the Alturas women's pant is built to endure season after season while providing an athletic fit that lets you be both fast and quiet. Unlike other women's hunting pants, the Alturas takes every component that we created in our men's pants and simply applies it to pants cut for a woman, plain and simple."
http://www.firstlite.com/alturas-pants.html
too often women's versions of hunting clothes and boots are made cheaper with ornamental rather than technical materials
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 08, 2017, 08:05:13 AM
Post by: whackmaster on January 08, 2017, 08:32:13 AM
Check out First Lite - here's what they say about their women's pant.Where is it made I have been all over there web site and it does not say ?
"It's about time somebody made a women's hunting pant that left nothing to chance. Made from the same nylon (not polyester) materials and construction as our popular Corrugate Guide Pant, the Alturas women's pant is built to endure season after season while providing an athletic fit that lets you be both fast and quiet. Unlike other women's hunting pants, the Alturas takes every component that we created in our men's pants and simply applies it to pants cut for a woman, plain and simple."
http://www.firstlite.com/alturas-pants.html
too often women's versions of hunting clothes and boots are made cheaper with ornamental rather than technical materials
Post by: hughjorgan on January 08, 2017, 08:46:04 AM
Check out First Lite - here's what they say about their women's pant.Where is it made I have been all over there web site and it does not say ?
"It's about time somebody made a women's hunting pant that left nothing to chance. Made from the same nylon (not polyester) materials and construction as our popular Corrugate Guide Pant, the Alturas women's pant is built to endure season after season while providing an athletic fit that lets you be both fast and quiet. Unlike other women's hunting pants, the Alturas takes every component that we created in our men's pants and simply applies it to pants cut for a woman, plain and simple."
http://www.firstlite.com/alturas-pants.html
too often women's versions of hunting clothes and boots are made cheaper with ornamental rather than technical materials
I believe China just like all the other makers of performance camo...
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 08, 2017, 08:49:34 AM
He has a target market and he's staying in his lane.
Post by: Kazekurt on January 08, 2017, 08:59:01 AM
Post by: dyhardhuntr on January 08, 2017, 09:55:59 AM
Though I don't necessarily agree with his way of thinking, I like that he is who he is and he isn't real concerned about being PC. Far too much of that in this world. I'm the kind of person that believes an honest question deserves an honest answer. If that's how he feels, then he should tell it how it is. To some degree, I think his arrogant, elitist attitude is what makes his products so good. He's a hard-core guy, and his products are designed for hard-core guys. He wants his stuff to be the best and will not compromise his standards. He's a quality over quantity kind of guy and wants to maintain complete control of everything associated with his product. I have a lot of Sitka gear and a lot kuiu gear and find both to be excellent. Sitka's customer service and warranty are impeccable. I have had a few issues with the zippers on their rain gear , and they have always went above and beyond to fix the problem for me. I cannot yet evaluate kuiu in this regard, because none of their products have ever failed me. It is not hard to see that Kuiu is designed by hardcore hunters That actually wear the stuff and design it accordingly. The devil is in the details on good hunting gear and they don't miss much.
:yeah:There are a few items I have returned either due to a fit or other issue (pack buckle sewed on backwards). They took care of me without question. I will continue to buy their clothing because of their CS. I've never met Jason but I can't fault him for the way he does business. It obviously works. He has a business with great employees and they do their best to take care of everyone. With all the media BS out there who knows if that comment is how he really said it or meant it.
Post by: Jason on January 08, 2017, 10:33:41 AM
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Post by: Buzz2401 on January 08, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
Everybody know that it's virtually impossible to kill a animal nowadays if you don't have an entire clothing package (AKA system) from one specific brand...complete with layering, gaitors and a bino case all from the same brand. I reckon the fat guys and womenfolk will just have to shop elsewhere for their "system" :(
:yeah:
Post by: dscubame on January 08, 2017, 03:26:27 PM
Those female hunters don't create aspiration either? Crazy.
And skinny guys won't "look good" in them? Oh my.
Post by: Oh Mah on January 08, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
This is true women are built different.Guys are not all the same either but we seem to do just fine with it now don't we?His honesty and gear are great in my opinion.My wife looks pretty good in it as well.why does it have to be gender specific is all i have on this.My wife wears the same stuff as me in kuiu.what some wont wear it if it doesn't have pink?what on it says man anyway?
Because women are built completely different. Hips, waist, chest are all different in clothing built for a women. That's why gender specific.
Jason didn't come off to well in his comments
Post by: 7mag. on January 08, 2017, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: JODakota on January 08, 2017, 09:42:23 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on January 08, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
His comments don't bother me. He is a dang good marketer. :twocents:
Post by: huntnnw on January 08, 2017, 10:28:42 PM
KUIU is made in china junk
Everything I have owned in Sitka is falling apart! and everything I own in KUIU is perfect to this day and I wear the crap out of my stuff! Im on 4 pairs of Sitka acsents now..stitching falling out of them in weeks. Don't get me started with what I think of Gore tex.
Ill continue to buy KUIU and good for him and his comments and staying the course of HIS business...Hes not hurting for business.
Post by: JODakota on January 08, 2017, 10:49:13 PM
KUIU is made in china junk
Everything I have owned in Sitka is falling apart! and everything I own in KUIU is perfect to this day and I wear the crap out of my stuff! Im on 4 pairs of Sitka acsents now..stitching falling out of them in weeks. Don't get me started with what I think of Gore tex.
Ill continue to buy KUIU and good for him and his comments and staying the course of HIS business...Hes not hurting for business.
I do have to ask, why do you guys where camo when your not hunting?
Post by: Nmesub on January 08, 2017, 10:50:22 PM
KUIU is made in china junkmade in China yeah but not junk. Best quality I have owned. Btw what light weight hunting clothing you buying that's not made in China?
Post by: JODakota on January 08, 2017, 10:50:47 PM
I don't care for their European sizing, but like their clothes overall. What he said is dumb for business though. I do wonder what his background is with his wusses comment.
Taco, I was wondering too. What Is considered a wuss in the military... besides the coastguard of course;)
Post by: huntnnw on January 08, 2017, 11:28:39 PM
KUIU is made in china junk
Everything I have owned in Sitka is falling apart! and everything I own in KUIU is perfect to this day and I wear the crap out of my stuff! Im on 4 pairs of Sitka acsents now..stitching falling out of them in weeks. Don't get me started with what I think of Gore tex.
Ill continue to buy KUIU and good for him and his comments and staying the course of HIS business...Hes not hurting for business.
I do have to ask, why do you guys where camo when your not hunting?
where did I say I was wearing camo when not hunting? I wear my Sitka ascent pants when scouting or hiking due to comfort, I wear my Rain gear fishing due to the fact if its raining Ill wear my rain gear.
Post by: Smossy on January 08, 2017, 11:33:52 PM
Post by: JODakota on January 08, 2017, 11:34:02 PM
Post by: huntnnw on January 08, 2017, 11:46:23 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on January 09, 2017, 12:53:19 AM
jagI don't care for their European sizing, but like their clothes overall. What he said is dumb for business though. I do wonder what his background is with his wusses comment.
Taco, I was wondering too. What Is considered a wuss in the military... besides the coastguard of course;)
Post by: Oh Mah on January 09, 2017, 12:55:30 AM
For me its because i have more camo than non camo clothes and they are in better shape.I dont wear pants unless hunting though. :tup:KUIU is made in china junk
Everything I have owned in Sitka is falling apart! and everything I own in KUIU is perfect to this day and I wear the crap out of my stuff! Im on 4 pairs of Sitka acsents now..stitching falling out of them in weeks. Don't get me started with what I think of Gore tex.
Ill continue to buy KUIU and good for him and his comments and staying the course of HIS business...Hes not hurting for business.
I do have to ask, why do you guys where camo when your not hunting?
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 09, 2017, 06:34:16 AM
Never could dunk in Nikes and couldn't dunk in LA Gears. So I bought LA Gears and with the leftovers bought a hoop that could be lowered.Solid.
Post by: bearhunter99 on January 09, 2017, 07:52:08 AM
Never could dunk in Nikes and couldn't dunk in LA Gears. So I bought LA Gears and with the leftovers bought a hoop that could be lowered.
His comments don't bother me. He is a dang good marketer. :twocents:
That's good stuff right there! :chuckle:
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2017, 08:03:26 AM
KUIU is made in china junk
Have you tested their stuff? Just Curious. What issues have you had?
I love it, Very durable, and comfortable.
The fit and function is exactly what they say it is.
Post by: wooltie on January 09, 2017, 11:06:09 AM
PathfinderJR met the co-owner of Kuiu last August in the Seattle Airport on the way home after our Alaska caribou hunt. They talked for almost an hour. He told him the same thing; We don't make clothes for women. Basically, his philosophy is that the men's sizes they make will cover most women that want to buy Kuiu. For them to offer a full range of the sizes/shapes that would allow him to claim a "women's line" would be too costly.
For what it's worth, the guy we met was pretty plain spoken and blunt. My son (who is a high school senior) said that he was applying for Army ROTC Scholarships and wanted to major in business. Asked what his chances were of being hired to work for a company like Kuiu straight out of college with a business marketing degree. They guy told him "Zero chance. Do ROTC, be an Army officer, go Ranger or Special Forces, serve a few years. Then we'll talk. We don't hire wusses."
Wow. Makes we want to switch to First Lite.
And I don't understand the 'added costs of making women's line'. I understand the design and r&d around perfecting clothing fitted to women's figures, and also the challenge because women's bodies vary much more than men's bodies.
Post by: Mtnwalker on January 09, 2017, 05:33:40 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 09, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 10, 2017, 08:44:36 AM
PathfinderJR met the co-owner of Kuiu last August in the Seattle Airport on the way home after our Alaska caribou hunt. They talked for almost an hour. He told him the same thing; We don't make clothes for women. Basically, his philosophy is that the men's sizes they make will cover most women that want to buy Kuiu. For them to offer a full range of the sizes/shapes that would allow him to claim a "women's line" would be too costly.
For what it's worth, the guy we met was pretty plain spoken and blunt. My son (who is a high school senior) said that he was applying for Army ROTC Scholarships and wanted to major in business. Asked what his chances were of being hired to work for a company like Kuiu straight out of college with a business marketing degree. They guy told him "Zero chance. Do ROTC, be an Army officer, go Ranger or Special Forces, serve a few years. Then we'll talk. We don't hire wusses."
Wow. Makes we want to switch to First Lite.
And I don't understand the 'added costs of making women's line'. I understand the design and r&d around perfecting clothing fitted to women's figures, and also the challenge because women's bodies vary much more than men's bodies.
PathfinderJR wasn't offended at all. The route that they suggested was the route he is planning on taking anyway... :dunno:
Post by: Woodchuck on January 10, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
:tup: He has a pretty good mentor. ;)PathfinderJR met the co-owner of Kuiu last August in the Seattle Airport on the way home after our Alaska caribou hunt. They talked for almost an hour. He told him the same thing; We don't make clothes for women. Basically, his philosophy is that the men's sizes they make will cover most women that want to buy Kuiu. For them to offer a full range of the sizes/shapes that would allow him to claim a "women's line" would be too costly.
For what it's worth, the guy we met was pretty plain spoken and blunt. My son (who is a high school senior) said that he was applying for Army ROTC Scholarships and wanted to major in business. Asked what his chances were of being hired to work for a company like Kuiu straight out of college with a business marketing degree. They guy told him "Zero chance. Do ROTC, be an Army officer, go Ranger or Special Forces, serve a few years. Then we'll talk. We don't hire wusses."
Wow. Makes we want to switch to First Lite.
And I don't understand the 'added costs of making women's line'. I understand the design and r&d around perfecting clothing fitted to women's figures, and also the challenge because women's bodies vary much more than men's bodies.
PathfinderJR wasn't offended at all. The route that they suggested was the route he is planning on taking anyway... :dunno:
Post by: Timberstalker on January 10, 2017, 09:00:39 AM
One could say that if bread manufacturer only offered white bread and not wheat, that they were making a bad business decision. The only difference here is that wheat bread cannot talk or complain.
Post by: 2MANY on January 10, 2017, 09:59:55 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on January 10, 2017, 11:05:50 AM
Think about how much more game the Indians and mountain men would have killed if they would have worn this stuff.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: dmoua on January 10, 2017, 05:32:40 PM
Post by: JKEEN33 on January 10, 2017, 06:12:50 PM
I'm not certain I agree with his outlook, however he's built a great business in short order. We will have to wait and see if this affects anything. My gut tells me it won't affect anything.
One could say that if bread manufacturer only offered white bread and not wheat, that they were making a bad business decision. The only difference here is that wheat bread cannot talk or complain.
If you sell 10 million loaves of white bread a month and 1 thousand loaves of wheat bread, but your manufacturer required you to purchase a minimum lot of 10 thousand a month for them to produce wheat, what would you do? Stocking the lower demand sizes in clothing has always been an issue for anyone in that business.
Just using your example because it's an easy example to work with.
I will admit I've watched several of his videos and he is not a great public speaker.
Post by: dscubame on January 10, 2017, 06:39:32 PM
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Post by: 2MANY on January 11, 2017, 09:03:47 AM
Post by: Jason on January 11, 2017, 09:08:25 AM
By buying his product and proudly wearing his brand you are approving of the individual just like prancing around in a Hillary shirt.HAHAHAHA..what a bunch of bull!!
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 11, 2017, 09:21:57 AM
By buying his product and proudly wearing his brand you are approving of the individual just like prancing around in a Hillary shirt.
What's wrong with supporting his product. He spoke his mind and maybe hurt some feelings. Who cares. Geez people are sensitive these days.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 11, 2017, 09:29:10 AM
By buying his product and proudly wearing his brand you are approving of the individual just like prancing around in a Hillary shirt.
What's wrong with supporting his product. He spoke his mind and maybe hurt some feelings. Who cares. Geez people are sensitive these days.
Everyone deserves a trophy......and don't offend anyone :rolleyes:
Post by: 2MANY on January 11, 2017, 09:36:53 AM
I don't buy new camo every year.
Over the years I have learned camo is really about getting in your wallet.
I'm glad you enjoy sponsoring this man's machine.
Perhaps you could just get on monthly auto pay?
Post by: cbond3318 on January 11, 2017, 09:52:55 AM
I could careless.
I don't buy new camo every year.
Over the years I have learned camo is really about getting in your wallet.
I'm glad you enjoy sponsoring this man's machine.
Perhaps you could just get on monthly auto pay?
:chuckle:
Post by: Miles on January 11, 2017, 10:22:36 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on January 11, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
I get a good laugh when I cross paths with someone decked out in KUIU. This year during archery I ran into a guy and I'm pretty sure if KUIU had made toilet paper he would have had some in his pack.I was the same way seeing people decked out in sitka until I started looking into some of the stuff Sitka and kuiu had and realized how nice the kuiu was. I don't laugh at those guys anymore. They were ahead of the learning curve imo
Post by: 2MANY on January 11, 2017, 10:53:20 AM
I get a good laugh when I cross paths with someone decked out in KUIU. This year during archery I ran into a guy and I'm pretty sure if KUIU had made toilet paper he would have had some in his pack.I was the same way seeing people decked out in sitka until I started looking into some of the stuff Sitka and kuiu had and realized how nice the kuiu was. I don't laugh at those guys anymore. They were ahead of the learning curve imo
Most of those guys are carrying a pack the size of Everest as well.
Perhaps they buy their Toilet Paper at Costco?
Post by: 2MANY on January 11, 2017, 11:01:57 AM
No toilet paper here.
Post by: James on January 11, 2017, 11:05:22 AM
-If he doesn’t think there is a business case for women’s gear right now for his company, it’s his business and his money and we don’t get to tell him how to run it or what risks to take.
-Technical mountain gear that fits athletically built hunters is a very recent thing that I am quite thankful for. Almost all of hunting stuff is designed to cater the other side of that coin, so I guess I don’t really feel bad for the fat guys. You use to have the market catering to 100% of your needs now its 99%. I think you fat guys are going to be just fine.
Overall I have been pretty happy with the few items I have purchased from Kuiu.
Post by: jrebel on January 11, 2017, 11:07:26 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 11, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
I get a good laugh when I cross paths with someone decked out in KUIU. This year during archery I ran into a guy and I'm pretty sure if KUIU had made toilet paper he would have had some in his pack.
It was good meeting you too man. Hope your season went well.
Post by: M_ray on January 11, 2017, 11:27:24 AM
A few years back when I first tried it the only way I could explain it was ...
"Its so comfortable it's like hunting in PJ's" :twocents:
Post by: Miles on January 11, 2017, 12:07:33 PM
:hello:. :chuckle:I get a good laugh when I cross paths with someone decked out in KUIU. This year during archery I ran into a guy and I'm pretty sure if KUIU had made toilet paper he would have had some in his pack.
It was good meeting you too man. Hope your season went well.
Sure they probably make some good stuff, but I think some take it to the extreme. Almost like more of a status thing for some IMO.
Post by: boneaddict on January 11, 2017, 12:18:25 PM
Post by: 2MANY on January 11, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
:hello:. :chuckle:I get a good laugh when I cross paths with someone decked out in KUIU. This year during archery I ran into a guy and I'm pretty sure if KUIU had made toilet paper he would have had some in his pack.
It was good meeting you too man. Hope your season went well.
Sure they probably make some good stuff, but I think some take it to the extreme. Almost like more of a status thing for some IMO.
Look at the big brain on Miles!!!!!
Post by: Taco280AI on January 11, 2017, 04:25:18 PM
If I didn't have the orange on would you even see me?
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Post by: Swiftkid on January 11, 2017, 05:07:19 PM
Post by: Odell on January 11, 2017, 05:24:12 PM
A lot of guys on here knocking KUIU, i'd be willing to bet they have never worn any of the gear or our upset they can't fit into it(fat). I've been happy with the handful of purchases I've made and never paid full price for any of the gear. Pick some up and test it in the field, that's if you can fit into it.
I've bought too much of it. Don't care for it or him.
Post by: boneaddict on January 11, 2017, 05:37:11 PM
Post by: Miles on January 11, 2017, 05:42:49 PM
Hey Miles, swiftkid just called you fat. :chuckle: @Miles
:chuckle:. Isn't the internet great?
I'll keep wearing my fat clothes and notching tags, no worries. ;)
I can say I won't miss driving by the KUIU office on a daily basis though... C'mon Colorado!
Post by: ian_padron on January 11, 2017, 08:08:10 PM
Though I don't necessarily agree with his way of thinking, I like that he is who he is and he isn't real concerned about being PC. Far too much of that in this world. I'm the kind of person that believes an honest question deserves an honest answer. If that's how he feels, then he should tell it how it is. To some degree, I think his arrogant, elitist attitude is what makes his products so good. He's a hard-core guy, and his products are designed for hard-core guys. He wants his stuff to be the best and will not compromise his standards. He's a quality over quantity kind of guy and wants to maintain complete control of everything associated with his product. I have a lot of Sitka gear and a lot kuiu gear and find both to be excellent. Sitka's customer service and warranty are impeccable. I have had a few issues with the zippers on their rain gear , and they have always went above and beyond to fix the problem for me. I cannot yet evaluate kuiu in this regard, because none of their products have ever failed me. It is not hard to see that Kuiu is designed by hardcore hunters That actually wear the stuff and design it accordingly. The devil is in the details on good hunting gear and they don't miss much.
Could not agree more. He serves a niche market and does it damn well. For guys who push limits consistently in the backcountry...that mindset and attitude is pretty common. For people who are alienated by comments on fat guys, stand hunters, ladies, etc. OK don't buy their stuff, it wasn't made for you anyway haha. The only way to be truly successful in business is to niche down, and KUIU is the definition of that. I find his attitude refreshing and have never been anything but impressed with the products from KUIU.
Post by: Taco280AI on January 11, 2017, 08:17:35 PM
A lot of guys on here knocking KUIU, i'd be willing to bet they have never worn any of the gear or our upset they can't fit into it(fat). I've been happy with the handful of purchases I've made and never paid full price for any of the gear. Pick some up and test it in the field, that's if you can fit into it.
I disagree with this. There have been plenty of things I didn't like from plenty of companies. Doesn't mean I don't have it, can't afford it, can't fit into it, and certainly not jealous of it. Some people just don't like it and that's okay.
As for the fat comment and the owner's comments about going SF... I've been around plenty of Seals and SF who wouldn't fit into the KUIU gear, and they're anything but fat.
Post by: cbond3318 on January 11, 2017, 08:21:55 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 11, 2017, 08:27:46 PM
I'm just glad YETI still makes coolers for Beer Drinkers.
You mean RTIC...........no real beer drinker can afford a YETI :chuckle:
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 11, 2017, 08:33:21 PM
Post by: huntnnw on January 11, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
By buying his product and proudly wearing his brand you are approving of the individual just like prancing around in a Hillary shirt.
What's wrong with supporting his product. He spoke his mind and maybe hurt some feelings. Who cares. Geez people are sensitive these days.
Yup..this thread and forum seems to have a bunch of crybabies that want participation trophies.
Post by: JODakota on January 11, 2017, 11:24:55 PM
A lot of guys on here knocking KUIU, i'd be willing to bet they have never worn any of the gear or our upset they can't fit into it(fat). I've been happy with the handful of purchases I've made and never paid full price for any of the gear. Pick some up and test it in the field, that's if you can fit into it.
I disagree with this. There have been plenty of things I didn't like from plenty of companies. Doesn't mean I don't have it, can't afford it, can't fit into it, and certainly not jealous of it. Some people just don't like it and that's okay.
As for the fat comment and the owner's comments about going SF... I've been around plenty of Seals and SF who wouldn't fit into the KUIU gear, and they're anything but fat.
The hammer just met the nail. I know a lot of team guys, guys who take to the extreme more than most on this forum. Big SEAL's and little SEAL's. Ever see a team from Dam Neck??? They look like a NFL football team. No consistent size. I've met some chubby SEAL's who are absolute savages and could out run collegiate athletes. Body composition has absolutely nothing to do with how savage an individual is. The Kuiu owner is a complete *censored* if he believes that how you look is how hardcore you are.
Post by: Skillet on January 11, 2017, 11:38:54 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=207145.0;attach=430773;image)
He didn't say anything about being hardcore, or that his brand represents hardcore guys. He said he likes skinny guys to look good in his clothes, and to have other guys aspire to fit into the clothes. That's it. Kuiu's marketing plan is to make skinny guys look good, and the rest you be envious of them. It's marketing 101, guys. Like Armani suits or Versace. Actually, much more like Versace than Armani. Kuiu is the Versace of hunting attire. :chuckle:
Post by: JODakota on January 11, 2017, 11:41:04 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=207145.0;attach=430773;image)
He didn't say anything about being hardcore, or that his brand represents hardcore guys. He said he likes skinny guys to look good in his clothes, and to have other guys aspire to fit into the clothes. That's it. Kuiu's marketing plan is to make skinny guys look good, and the rest you be envious of them. It's marketing 101, guys. Like Armani suits or Versace. Actually, much more like Versace than Armani. Kuiu is the Versace of hunting attire. :chuckle:
It was forum guys who were talking about being hardcore back country types that i was referring to.
Post by: huntnnw on January 11, 2017, 11:53:40 PM
Post by: Skillet on January 11, 2017, 11:58:22 PM
Post by: Miles on January 12, 2017, 05:15:13 AM
The one certain thing is this: There will be a new latest and greatest somewhere down the line. For now he is enjoying his success. However long that success lasts is up to him, his customers, and his competition.
I'm happy for you guys that like everything he makes. You've found a system that works for you and that's what is important. For me, I'll just stick to my regular "fat clothes" and keep on doing what I do..
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 12, 2017, 05:17:10 AM
Post by: Miles on January 12, 2017, 06:22:17 AM
What do your fat clothes consist of?
Tank tops for the warm/dry days and trash bag ponchos for the wet ones.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 12, 2017, 06:54:34 AM
See post #16
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=207145.0;attach=430773;image)
He didn't say anything about being hardcore, or that his brand represents hardcore guys. He said he likes skinny guys to look good in his clothes, and to have other guys aspire to fit into the clothes. That's it. Kuiu's marketing plan is to make skinny guys look good, and the rest you be envious of them. It's marketing 101, guys. Like Armani suits or Versace. Actually, much more like Versace than Armani. Kuiu is the Versace of hunting attire. :chuckle:
Post by: Skillet on January 12, 2017, 07:34:11 AM
I don't see how that impacts Hairston's marketing of Kuiu as a boutique clothing line at at all, but rather how it can create an unessecary "brain drain" on a company by requiring every CSR to be special forces caliber. I mean, if they're going to pay Haliburton contractor money to answer phones they should get a lot of great guys to pick from.
Edited to add: I agree with Miles and others in that I'm glad Hairston said what he said, and how he said it. A refreshing breath of non-PC, non-corporate speak. The man is certain of his boutique clothing line marketing strategy, and I can respect that. Bone is right that his stating the point as he did was intended to create this kind of buzz, and the fact that so many people are talking about it is proof it worked.
Post by: quadrafire on January 12, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
If I wanted to know if a guy's hardcore, I'll check his mancave wall and/or freezer, not his closet.That's funny Skillet
Post by: follow maggie on January 12, 2017, 07:02:06 PM
Post by: blackpowderhunter on January 13, 2017, 06:50:43 AM
does your wife wear any lulu lemon?
owner of that company is the same if not worse.
he has basically been quoted saying his clothes aren't made for fat women, and he also claims that he made the name lulu lemon because he thought it would be funny to hear Japanese people try to pronounce all of the "L"s in the name. no joke.
I'm not saying your wife is like this, but it is so funny to me how many times I have heard women/girls talking about boycotting brands, politicians, etc because of chauvinistic tendencies, all while wearing lulu lemon :chuckle:
Post by: Mtnwalker on January 13, 2017, 09:43:26 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 13, 2017, 09:55:58 AM
I'm assuming you're asking me? I have never heard of that brand and I don't believe she does, but I could be wrong. The only thing she took offense to was him implying that women don't hunt as hard or can't be inspirational hunters or however the heck he worded it. But it didn't ruin her day or anything, this was more of a conversation starter than anything, I'm surprised to see how fired up some have gotten, guess it worked! I'm sure we both will continue to buy Kuiu if it's lighter/more waterproof/better suited for our needs than the competition.
For what it's worth, the guy PathfinderJR talked to never said anything about women not hunting as hard or not being "aspirational". He just said that it didn't make economic sense for Kuiu to offer a line of clothing that are tailored to fit women. He did mention something about a couple of companies that have tried that, and it was not profitable. He never said anything about "fat guys" to us. Maybe because I was sitting there... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: JKEEN33 on January 13, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
I'm assuming you're asking me? I have never heard of that brand and I don't believe she does, but I could be wrong. The only thing she took offense to was him implying that women don't hunt as hard or can't be inspirational hunters or however the heck he worded it. But it didn't ruin her day or anything, this was more of a conversation starter than anything, I'm surprised to see how fired up some have gotten, guess it worked! I'm sure we both will continue to buy Kuiu if it's lighter/more waterproof/better suited for our needs than the competition.
For what it's worth, the guy PathfinderJR talked to never said anything about women not hunting as hard or not being "aspirational". He just said that it didn't make economic sense for Kuiu to offer a line of clothing that are tailored to fit women. He did mention something about a couple of companies that have tried that, and it was not profitable. He never said anything about "fat guys" to us. Maybe because I was sitting there... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Not economical currently, makes sense, but they may be missing out on a future opportunity. I use to run a youth archery program. I told the moms one night to feel free to grab a bow and shoot if they wanted. The next week all the moms came in with new bows and wanted to shoot. Just the last few years, I have seen a large number of woman getting into archery and it's a great thing. I tell everyone, that it's a sport that anyone can participate in. I'm sure woman's hunting cloths will be a growing market soon that these companies get into.
Post by: blackpowderhunter on January 13, 2017, 10:28:41 AM
I'm assuming you're asking me? I have never heard of that brand and I don't believe she does, but I could be wrong.I hope you're right...for your wallets sake :chuckle:
Post by: M_ray on January 13, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
serious question here.
does your wife wear any lulu lemon?
owner of that company is the same if not worse.
he has basically been quoted saying his clothes aren't made for fat women, and he also claims that he made the name lulu lemon because he thought it would be funny to hear Japanese people try to pronounce all of the "L"s in the name. no joke.
I'm not saying your wife is like this, but it is so funny to me how many times I have heard women/girls talking about boycotting brands, politicians, etc because of chauvinistic tendencies, all while wearing lulu lemon :chuckle:
Kuiu and Lulu are not the only companies that do this, when was the last time you saw a fat chick in a nice pair of 7 for all mankind premium denim jeans? :chuckle: They are just the only two that don't have a problem saying so. Like I said earlier I don't have a problem with them saying it. I think with our latest President Elect in office you are going to see more of this and the snowflakes are just going to have to toughen up a little. :hello:
Post by: frazierw on January 13, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: hunter399 on January 13, 2017, 01:34:32 PM
Post by: kentrek on January 13, 2017, 01:50:25 PM
I think he just did it to get another 15 minutes if fame.....seems he has to do something every 6 months to get attention....
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 13, 2017, 02:36:14 PM
I don't think anyone is upset about him not making clothes for one group or another.....I think they are just alil shocked he called fat guys and women uninsperational.....
I think he just did it to get another 15 minutes if fame.....seems he has to do something every 6 months to get attention....
You read what you want to read.....
Post by: hollymaster on January 13, 2017, 02:36:59 PM
Start handing out safety pins to the snowflakes. :chuckle:serious question here.
does your wife wear any lulu lemon?
owner of that company is the same if not worse.
he has basically been quoted saying his clothes aren't made for fat women, and he also claims that he made the name lulu lemon because he thought it would be funny to hear Japanese people try to pronounce all of the "L"s in the name. no joke.
I'm not saying your wife is like this, but it is so funny to me how many times I have heard women/girls talking about boycotting brands, politicians, etc because of chauvinistic tendencies, all while wearing lulu lemon :chuckle:
Kuiu and Lulu are not the only companies that do this, when was the last time you saw a fat chick in a nice pair of 7 for all mankind premium denim jeans? :chuckle: They are just the only two that don't have a problem saying so. Like I said earlier I don't have a problem with them saying it. I think with our latest President Elect in office you are going to see more of this and the snowflakes are just going to have to toughen up a little. :hello:
Post by: 2MANY on January 16, 2017, 08:16:21 AM
By buying his product and proudly wearing his brand you are approving of the individual just like prancing around in a Hillary shirt.
What's wrong with supporting his product. He spoke his mind and maybe hurt some feelings. Who cares. Geez people are sensitive these days.
Yup..this thread and forum seems to have a bunch of crybabies that want participation trophies.
LOL
Post by: Taco280AI on January 16, 2017, 02:47:18 PM
Post by: JoeE on January 16, 2017, 07:42:21 PM
If you don't like the gear stick with what works for you and don't buy KUIU, pretty simple. I've spent enough time in the field in crappy clothing that I know how important high quality stuff is.
Post by: JODakota on January 16, 2017, 09:50:43 PM
Lots of butthurt in this thread.. I have worn everything in the field from jeans and T shirt, USMC issued trousers and blouse, to Sitka, First Lite and KUIU. KUIU for me is the best gear followed by First Lite.
If you don't like the gear stick with what works for you and don't buy KUIU, pretty simple. I've spent enough time in the field in crappy clothing that I know how important high quality stuff is.
How does calling somebody an *censored* equat to butthurt???
Post by: Taco280AI on January 17, 2017, 06:58:08 AM
Post by: dscubame on January 17, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
Lots of butthurt in this thread.. I have worn everything in the field from jeans and T shirt, USMC issued trousers and blouse, to Sitka, First Lite and KUIU. KUIU for me is the best gear followed by First Lite.
If you don't like the gear stick with what works for you and don't buy KUIU, pretty simple. I've spent enough time in the field in crappy clothing that I know how important high quality stuff is.
:kneel:
Post by: 2MANY on January 17, 2017, 12:05:27 PM
:yeah:
The butt hurt individuals are the same ones that wore their Kuiu to work today.
If you need to dress your woman like a hunter when she isn't hunting she probably isn't a hunter.
Note: Riding around in the truck listening to country music doesn't count.
Post by: 7mmfan on January 17, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Note: Riding around in the truck listening to country music doesn't count.
WHAT!? That was my whole game plan.
Post by: 2MANY on January 17, 2017, 12:50:37 PM
Here is some Kuiu for youalls women.
http://www.kuiu.com/kuiu-logo-products/womens-vertical-hoodie/91017-RS-S.html?gclid=CN_IrfqGytECFUtNfgodP4YINw
Post by: hirshey on January 19, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
Post by: 2MANY on January 20, 2017, 09:11:47 AM
Post by: hirshey on January 20, 2017, 12:59:41 PM
The only problem with men's small is the leg length for some women.
At least the waist or circumference would be more manageable. I'd rather have the option to tailor than no option at all. :twocents:
Post by: couesbitten on January 20, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion.
This is why my girlfiend wears Kryptek, First Lite and King's.
Plus, I'd personally rather give my money to those companies anyhow, because their owners don't give the impression that they are insecure, narcissistic A-holes.
Post by: Timberstalker on January 20, 2017, 02:17:05 PM
Post by: bracer40 on January 20, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
I wear Kuiu... but that comment definitely makes you shake your head even as a supporter of his company. I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion. Oh well. I'll keep piecemealing my wardrobe together with a mix of companies as I (and most woman hunters) always have.From reading your annual (and thoroughly enjoyable) stories over the years, I can't believe one of the high end clothing/gear companies haven't outfitted you as a pro member! Their loss I suppose.
Post by: hirshey on January 20, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
That'd be sweet, but definitely hasn't happened yet. :chuckle:I wear Kuiu... but that comment definitely makes you shake your head even as a supporter of his company. I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion. Oh well. I'll keep piecemealing my wardrobe together with a mix of companies as I (and most woman hunters) always have.From reading your annual (and thoroughly enjoyable) stories over the years, I can't believe one of the high end clothing/gear companies haven't outfitted you as a pro member! Their loss I suppose.
Post by: kentrek on January 20, 2017, 05:43:07 PM
That'd be sweet, but definitely hasn't happened yet. :chuckle:I wear Kuiu... but that comment definitely makes you shake your head even as a supporter of his company. I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion. Oh well. I'll keep piecemealing my wardrobe together with a mix of companies as I (and most woman hunters) always have.From reading your annual (and thoroughly enjoyable) stories over the years, I can't believe one of the high end clothing/gear companies haven't outfitted you as a pro member! Their loss I suppose.
Sitkas new line will need some prostaffers......
Post by: Oh Mah on January 22, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
That would be cool for her for sure.Usually takes a number of people(potential customers) to let them know of her existence and popularity though. :tup:I wear Kuiu... but that comment definitely makes you shake your head even as a supporter of his company. I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion. Oh well. I'll keep piecemealing my wardrobe together with a mix of companies as I (and most woman hunters) always have.From reading your annual (and thoroughly enjoyable) stories over the years, I can't believe one of the high end clothing/gear companies haven't outfitted you as a pro member! Their loss I suppose.
Post by: hirshey on January 22, 2017, 06:29:48 PM
That'd be sweet, but definitely hasn't happened yet. :chuckle:I wear Kuiu... but that comment definitely makes you shake your head even as a supporter of his company. I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion. Oh well. I'll keep piecemealing my wardrobe together with a mix of companies as I (and most woman hunters) always have.From reading your annual (and thoroughly enjoyable) stories over the years, I can't believe one of the high end clothing/gear companies haven't outfitted you as a pro member! Their loss I suppose.
Sitkas new line will need some prostaffers......
Would be neat.. seems hard to get noticed in the big leagues though!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 22, 2017, 06:36:46 PM
That'd be sweet, but definitely hasn't happened yet. :chuckle:I wear Kuiu... but that comment definitely makes you shake your head even as a supporter of his company. I wish some more of his their products came in Small sizes, then he wouldn't need a women's line in my opinion. Oh well. I'll keep piecemealing my wardrobe together with a mix of companies as I (and most woman hunters) always have.From reading your annual (and thoroughly enjoyable) stories over the years, I can't believe one of the high end clothing/gear companies haven't outfitted you as a pro member! Their loss I suppose.
Sitkas new line will need some prostaffers......
Would be neat.. seems hard to get noticed in the big leagues though!
All the top female huntresses go on guided hunts with Shane Barbour for elk. :peep:
Sorry couldn't resist. :chuckle:
Post by: couesbitten on January 23, 2017, 05:51:12 AM
Post by: 2MANY on January 23, 2017, 08:36:40 AM
When is the KUIU protest march?
Post by: hirshey on January 23, 2017, 01:22:04 PM
After rereading the thread title I've come to the conclusion women find anything to be made about.
When is the KUIU protest march?
If you had to have pink on your camo to ensure it fit you functionally, you'd be "made" too. :chuckle:
Post by: Bob33 on January 23, 2017, 01:29:24 PM
:chuckle:After rereading the thread title I've come to the conclusion women find anything to be made about.
When is the KUIU protest march?
If you had to have pink on your camo to ensure it fit you functionally, you'd be "made" too. :chuckle:
Post by: 2MANY on January 23, 2017, 02:34:22 PM
Post by: M_ray on January 23, 2017, 06:04:37 PM
After rereading the thread title I've come to the conclusion women find anything to be made about.
You're just figuring this out? :dunno: :dunno:
... Rookie! :chuckle:
Post by: hirshey on January 23, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
Now I'm really maid.:chuckle:
Post by: Tbob on January 27, 2017, 01:32:59 PM
Post by: dmoua on February 09, 2017, 09:21:29 AM
:dunno:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 16, 2017, 10:23:07 AM
:stirthepot: :devil:
Post by: 2MANY on February 16, 2017, 10:43:10 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on February 16, 2017, 10:51:44 AM
I saw that the owner of Kuiu posted a picture on Instagram of his little kid headed to school yesterday wearing all Kuiu gear. Head to toe...
:stirthepot: :devil:
So he is gonna make youth gear, but not women's? Interesting.
Post by: hirshey on February 16, 2017, 12:14:33 PM
I saw that the owner of Kuiu posted a picture on Instagram of his little kid headed to school yesterday wearing all Kuiu gear. Head to toe...:chuckle:
:stirthepot: :devil:
Yet they have used almost a dozen of my Kuiu gear photos on their social media. Granted, 90% of them are my fella and pal that they end up selecting.:
Post by: bradslam on February 16, 2017, 09:32:26 PM
They make socks?
Yes, they do.
Post by: M_ray on February 16, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
They make socks?
Yes, they do.
:chuckle:
http://www.kuiu.com/hunting-boots-footwear/ultra-merino-over-the-calf-sock/87105.html?dwvar_87105_color=Brindle&cgid=footwear#start=4
Post by: Miles on March 11, 2017, 05:01:58 PM
Post by: hirshey on March 11, 2017, 05:19:53 PM
Just drove past their office yesterday and saw they had a couple tents set up out front. Maybe they started making tents too.They launched a shelter system off of the Giro platform a few months back. Looks like a fun setup, but I like my tipis and stoves better. ☺️
Post by: Miles on March 12, 2017, 09:35:43 AM
Just drove past their office yesterday and saw they had a couple tents set up out front. Maybe they started making tents too.They launched a shelter system off of the Giro platform a few months back. Looks like a fun setup, but I like my tipis and stoves better. ☺️
:tup: I thought it was odd that I'd never seen them out there before. Probably the last time I'll be driving by their location... Colorado here we come. :)
Post by: M_ray on March 12, 2017, 03:25:05 PM
Just drove past their office yesterday and saw they had a couple tents set up out front. Maybe they started making tents too.
They have had tents for some time now. :tup:
Post by: Miles on March 17, 2017, 02:51:30 PM