Post by: blackdog on January 17, 2017, 08:20:12 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 17, 2017, 08:37:28 AM
The paper proposed damming the older stream because it was too steep for fish passage, restoring the stream that runs across the road, then closing the road because a stream runs across it.
All closing that access will do is promote other unlawful access points. I've launched my driftboat down cliff faces, through swamps, down creeks, all kinds of places to gain access to rivers. This won't stop people, it will just turn those who want to use the public waterway into criminals.
Post by: fireweed on January 17, 2017, 09:23:33 AM
Post by: blackdog on January 17, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
Post by: blackdog on January 17, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
Post by: WSU on January 18, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
This is my favorite part. Shows the unending depths of gov't over reach.
The paper proposed damming the older stream because it was too steep for fish passage, restoring the stream that runs across the road, then closing the road because a stream runs across it.
All closing that access will do is promote other unlawful access points. I've launched my driftboat down cliff faces, through swamps, down creeks, all kinds of places to gain access to rivers. This won't stop people, it will just turn those who want to use the public waterway into criminals.
You know of any there? Shoot me a PM if you do.
Post by: 7mmfan on January 18, 2017, 01:38:35 PM
See section 34
Whats your point? That the road is listed on the map?
Post by: blackdog on January 18, 2017, 02:08:02 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 18, 2017, 02:20:18 PM
Post by: Humptulips on January 18, 2017, 07:33:02 PM
The irony is there is hardly a salmon makes it up the river and they are worried about a trickle that never sees or even could fit a salmon in it.
Going back in time there was a bridge there that linked up with the old Johnson grade. To say that the rd was user built and imply it was made by campers is disingenuous or else they do not know the history.
USFS still owns a right of way across Rayonier land all the way out to the Donkey Cr Road so they should be able to see it was a through road at one time.
Post by: dreamunelk on January 18, 2017, 08:30:44 PM
Post by: Humptulips on January 20, 2017, 12:42:44 AM
Sure there is water in the winter when the river is high but any fish (and they would have to be small) that stay there are going to be trapped.
The real reason is the FS has been trying to keep people from camping on the river for a long time. They did it upstream to a popular site for the same reasons.
Every mud puddle in the State could be classified a wetland by the same thinking.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on January 21, 2017, 07:28:14 AM
i used to use that gravel bar in the winter when nobody was there to sight in my rifle, or shoot clay pigeons, since rayonier locked their gates closer to hoquiam, effectively blocking access to the state land just north of the watershed. amazing how in an area with so few people, there is so little access.
i don't ever recall there being a creek there, just a mud puddle where the road drops you onto the gravel bar.
Post by: blackdog on January 26, 2017, 08:52:18 PM
Post by: blackdog on January 26, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 26, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 27, 2017, 12:07:21 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 27, 2017, 02:04:59 PM
That's not to far. To far if you have a bad back though. Just dump the boat take just anchor with a pulley attached to it. Run a rope through pulley. One end to rig other to boat. Then drive.
:tup:
Post by: blackdog on January 28, 2017, 08:13:33 AM