Humptulips boat to be lost forever

[blackdog]

http://kbkw.com/forest-service-returns-to-plan-to-block-gravel-bar-access-on-the-west-fork-humptulips-river/

[7mmfan]

This is my favorite part. Shows the unending depths of gov't over reach.

The paper proposed damming the older stream because it was too steep for fish passage, restoring the stream that runs across the road, then closing the road because a stream runs across it.

All closing that access will do is promote other unlawful access points. I've launched my driftboat down cliff faces, through swamps, down creeks, all kinds of places to gain access to rivers. This won't stop people, it will just turn those who want to use the public waterway into criminals.

[fireweed]

Got Culvert?

[blackdog]

https://kilmer.house.gov/contact

[blackdog]

See section 34

[WSU]

This is my favorite part. Shows the unending depths of gov't over reach.

The paper proposed damming the older stream because it was too steep for fish passage, restoring the stream that runs across the road, then closing the road because a stream runs across it.

All closing that access will do is promote other unlawful access points. I've launched my driftboat down cliff faces, through swamps, down creeks, all kinds of places to gain access to rivers. This won't stop people, it will just turn those who want to use the public waterway into criminals.

You know of any there?  Shoot me a PM if you do.

[7mmfan]

See section 34

Whats your point? That the road is listed on the map?

[blackdog]

This is where the river access will be lost.

[7mmfan]

Got it.

[Humptulips]

I'm not sure what wetlands they are talking about. The most water I have ever seen there was in the mud puddle in the RD.
The irony is there is hardly a salmon makes it up the river and they are worried about a trickle that never sees or even could fit a salmon in it.
Going back in time there was a bridge there that linked up with the old Johnson grade. To say that the rd was user built  and imply it was made by campers is disingenuous or else they do not know the history.
USFS still owns a right of way across Rayonier land all the way out to the Donkey Cr Road so they should be able to see it was a through road at one time.

[dreamunelk]

Some how the original channel is not good for fish.  Huh?

[Humptulips]

There really is no channel. The water seeps into the mud puddle and then disappears into the gravel below.
Sure there is water in the winter when the river is high but any fish (and they would have to be small) that stay there are going to be trapped.
The real reason is the FS has been trying to keep people from camping on the river for a long time. They did it upstream to a popular site for the same reasons.
Every mud puddle in the State could be classified a wetland by the same thinking.

[BigGoonTuna]

the next access up river a mile or so had a huge, expensive culvert built over a little ditch of a creek, all for a road that dead ends on the river not far from there.

i used to use that gravel bar in the winter when nobody was there to sight in my rifle, or shoot clay pigeons, since rayonier locked their gates closer to hoquiam, effectively blocking access to the state land just north of the watershed.  amazing how in an area with so few people, there is so little access.

i don't ever recall there being a creek there, just a mud puddle where the road drops you onto the gravel bar.

[blackdog]

The access has been destroyed.

[blackdog]

Drift boats will need to be dragged the rest of the way to the river now.