Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 02:13:43 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 19, 2017, 02:16:50 PM
I just saw this this morning. Apparently its supposed to push a 55Gr bullet at 3350FPS and only requires a barrel/Mag change from a standard AR15. anyone seen this?
Hey wait, don't they have to go in traditional order and come up with a 24 Nosler first, then a 30 Nosler and then the 22? :chuckle:
Then they can start in on the 25 8)
Post by: chester on January 19, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 19, 2017, 02:21:29 PM
what about a 22-26 nosler or a 26-22 nosler. Oh man. Is there a 300-22nosler blackout?I just saw this this morning. Apparently its supposed to push a 55Gr bullet at 3350FPS and only requires a barrel/Mag change from a standard AR15. anyone seen this?
Hey wait, don't they have to go in traditional order and come up with a 24 Nosler first, then a 30 Nosler and then the 22? :chuckle:
Then they can start in on the 25 8)
Post by: jjness11 on January 19, 2017, 02:27:52 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on January 19, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 19, 2017, 02:34:30 PM
Here is a real question. Is the 22 Nosler a brand new case, or does it have a parent case it is based off of?
I believe it's new. Kinda looks like a 6.8spc with a smaller rim to fit a 5.56 bolt.
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 02:42:14 PM
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 02:45:21 PM
Well almost a 6.8
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 02:55:13 PM
this will be expensive for a while. Not having a parent case means you can't form your own brass. Thats the first thing that comes to mind as I ponder thisI was kinda hoping it was a necked down 7.62x39 case.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 19, 2017, 02:55:57 PM
this will be expensive for a while. Not having a parent case means you can't form your own brass. Thats the first thing that comes to mind as I ponder this
Midway has everything you need in stock. Complete uppers, plain barrels, mags, brass and dies.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
Jay your inbox is full
nope
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 02:59:33 PM
Duly noted thank you!this will be expensive for a while. Not having a parent case means you can't form your own brass. Thats the first thing that comes to mind as I ponder this
Midway has everything you need in stock. Complete uppers, plain barrels, mags, brass and dies.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 02:59:44 PM
seems like it, 22PPC is its own demon as well isn't it?
It's 220 Russian based and similar to 7.62x39/Grendel etc
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 03:01:40 PM
this will be expensive for a while. Not having a parent case means you can't form your own brass. Thats the first thing that comes to mind as I ponder this$145 for 250 pieces of brass....
Post by: Timberstalker on January 19, 2017, 03:03:22 PM
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 03:04:27 PM
Cool I figured some one had to try it off of a real common case.seems like it, 22PPC is its own demon as well isn't it?
It's 220 Russian based and similar to 7.62x39/Grendel etc
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 03:05:44 PM
LMAO. Nice poll. :tup:at least this thread and poll are for something genuine and not me being a Smart...
Don't get used to it. :chuckle:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
Cool I figured some one had to try it off of a real common case.seems like it, 22PPC is its own demon as well isn't it?
It's 220 Russian based and similar to 7.62x39/Grendel etc
22PPC is based off of 220 Russian. the nosler 22 is proprietary.
Sorry for the confusion
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 03:10:09 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 03:13:35 PM
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 03:13:49 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 19, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
I find it encouraging that in the past 5 years or so there has been a lot of new cartridge offerings from manufacturers. I am hoping that this keeps pushing advances in modern ammunition. Maybe someday we'll be deer hunting with AR-15's :yike: :sry: :chuckle:
Plenty of places to hunt with AR's
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 03:14:45 PM
It would seem that anytime you can take common produced brass and adapt it to your need it is fairly cost effective change... unlike the 22nosler, while cool will be quite expensive ammo.
They said that about Creedmoor too..
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2017, 03:20:12 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 19, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
Has Creedmoor ammo cost dropped a bunch since introduced?
Yes.
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 03:24:07 PM
I bought 100 Rnds of Hornady Match 140Gr ELD-X recently at $29 a boxHas Creedmoor ammo cost dropped a bunch since introduced?
Yes.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 19, 2017, 03:24:48 PM
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/440878/nosler-match-grade-ammunition-22-nosler-77-grain-custom-competition-hollow-point-boat-tail-box-of-20
Post by: JJB11B on January 19, 2017, 03:47:49 PM
Not any more expensive than premium 223.I was looking at brass price
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/440878/nosler-match-grade-ammunition-22-nosler-77-grain-custom-competition-hollow-point-boat-tail-box-of-20
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 19, 2017, 03:52:57 PM
That doesn't seem outrageous to methis will be expensive for a while. Not having a parent case means you can't form your own brass. Thats the first thing that comes to mind as I ponder this$145 for 250 pieces of brass....
Post by: Bill W on January 19, 2017, 04:07:06 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 19, 2017, 04:42:49 PM
Not any more expensive than premium 223.I was looking at brass price
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/440878/nosler-match-grade-ammunition-22-nosler-77-grain-custom-competition-hollow-point-boat-tail-box-of-20
My comment was for Special T about ammo price.
I think it's a very good price on the brass, Nosler makes great brass.
Post by: Bill W on January 20, 2017, 10:27:27 AM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on January 20, 2017, 05:48:12 PM
Post by: 2labs on January 20, 2017, 06:49:12 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 20, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 20, 2017, 07:29:54 PM
.204 anyone? :dunno:
Why? :dunno:
Post by: JODakota on January 20, 2017, 09:13:10 PM
.204 anyone? :dunno:
King of fur centerfires!
Post by: crabcreekhunter on January 20, 2017, 09:26:14 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 20, 2017, 09:33:08 PM
.220 swift or 22-250 work quite well, no need to reinvent the wheel.. although this is designed for ARs but i believe there is a few 22-250 ars in production?
It's for AR15's. 22-250 is AR10 and is a much bigger and heavier rifle. I like the 22Nosler over .223 WSSM as the Nosler is double stack and does not require proprietary upper receiver and bolt.
I'm waiting for the 6mm version :chuckle:
Post by: JJB11B on January 20, 2017, 09:45:59 PM
why? No point, you can't deer or elk hunt ethically with a semi auto.220 swift or 22-250 work quite well, no need to reinvent the wheel.. although this is designed for ARs but i believe there is a few 22-250 ars in production?
It's for AR15's. 22-250 is AR10 and is a much bigger and heavier rifle. I like the 22Nosler over .223 WSSM as the Nosler is double stack and does not require proprietary upper receiver and bolt.
I'm waiting for the 6mm version :chuckle:
Post by: JODakota on January 20, 2017, 10:11:52 PM
.220 swift or 22-250 work quite well, no need to reinvent the wheel.. although this is designed for ARs but i believe there is a few 22-250 ars in production?
I run both these rifles almost exclusively. I consider my 220 the long end of the law for varmints, but about 40 % of the time, I'm putting BIG holes in yotes. Wouldn't trade it for the world though.
Post by: yorketransport on January 21, 2017, 10:22:07 AM
So 22 PPC performance without worrying about the bolt.
Pretty much sums it up. I guess it's a good option for the factory ammo guys though. I'd probably go with the 224 AR (22/6.5 Grendel) though just so that it would run at a shorter OAL. That much case capacity really deserves a heavier bullet and a shorter case would make that a viable option in the stumpy little AR-15 mags. :chuckle:
Post by: JDHasty on January 21, 2017, 12:01:48 PM
It is an old cartridge w/new powders it reaches it's full potential ~ 1940 Leslie Lindahl .22 Lindahl Chucker in both rimmed and rimless versions. These are based on shortened .219 Zipper and .25 Remington cases respectively.
Post by: Bill W on January 21, 2017, 12:04:20 PM
When I saw this I thought immediately that this is nothing new. I read about this cartridge forty years ago reading C.S Landis and Phil Sharpe's works.
It is an old cartridge w/new powders it reaches it's full potential ~ 1940 Leslie Lindahl .22 Lindahl Chucker in both rimmed and rimless versions. These are based on shortened .219 Zipper and .25 Remington cases respectively.
Don't forget the newer, but still obsolete, .225 Winchester which was an "updated" Zipper.
Post by: JDHasty on January 21, 2017, 12:10:04 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 21, 2017, 12:11:34 PM
When I saw this I thought immediately that this is nothing new. I read about this cartridge forty years ago reading C.S Landis and Phil Sharpe's works.
It is an old cartridge w/new powders it reaches it's full potential ~ 1940 Leslie Lindahl .22 Lindahl Chucker in both rimmed and rimless versions. These are based on shortened .219 Zipper and .25 Remington cases respectively.
Other than being completely different in every dimension and application.
Post by: snowshoes22 on January 21, 2017, 09:17:30 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 21, 2017, 09:55:20 PM
It would be hard for me to beat up that beautiful Nosler brass in a semi auto. :chuckle:
I cringe every time I look at the Lapua brass getting tore up my AR. :bash:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 21, 2017, 09:58:08 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 22, 2017, 11:43:23 PM
I'd happily give up 50fps to run a 24" barreled 5.56 over same barrel length 22 Nosler.
Post by: JJB11B on January 22, 2017, 11:44:50 PM
Post by: JJB11B on January 29, 2017, 01:42:54 AM
Post by: Special T on February 16, 2017, 04:06:39 PM
Looks like Midway has stoner uppers on sale
Post by: JJB11B on February 16, 2017, 04:09:53 PM