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Title: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Dansk on February 15, 2009, 10:31:51 PM
I was on the fence until I read the proposed regs - now I'm definitely going to carry a sidearm while hunting.  Esp when I bowhunt or muzzleload.

Any recommendations?  I'm a function over fashion guy.. so revolver, auto, I'm not that particular.  More interested in quality, reliability, price, and weight.  Can I get anything decent for 200-250?

Recommendations?
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2009, 11:36:44 PM
I'd probably go with a 357 Mag. with a 6 inch barrel, and a double action. Rugers are a pretty good value for the money. In your price range you'd have to find a used one, but that shouldn't be hard.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 15, 2009, 11:52:50 PM
I bought a crappy Hipoint .380.  Something that lives under the front seat of the pickup just in case God answers my prayers and someone ever tries to carjack me :chuckle:
I'll carry it bowhunting cause it's light and low maintenace.  Picked it up at a gun show for $160.  Cougars and a$$holes are the only thing that make me nervous.  I figure a .380 will do the job.  (If I get eaten by a grizzly, I'll rethink all this...)
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: MHWASH on February 16, 2009, 07:22:02 AM
I'll second what Bobcat said.  I look for a Stainless steel GP-100 or Security Six.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: 12Gauge on February 16, 2009, 07:42:42 AM
I carry a 1911 in .38Super with 3 magazines.  One in the gun and two spare, that's 27 rounds pushing 1360fps in case I run into a meth head or something else.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: woodswalker on February 16, 2009, 07:48:51 AM
Most of my woods bumming is done with a Ruger Blackhawk in either 45 Long Colt, with a 255 grain cast bullet running ~1200 FPS or a Ruger Blackhawk in .44 Special with a 245 grain running ~1150 FPS with a handfull of the same load in the pocket.  usu carry about 25 rounds total.

If I cant solve it with that and E&E..I'm in serious trouble.

I'll carry the 45 Long Colt most likely as a companion for muzzleloading... :twocents:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: superdown on February 16, 2009, 08:25:29 AM
used Clock 20 would be economical powerfull and as reliable as you could ask for in a auto .
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: HawkenBob on February 16, 2009, 08:42:48 AM
Just got mine last week. Ruger SP101 in 357. Shot it this weekend, wow what a mini cannon.

Most anything will be effective for human defense. But for bear and cougs Ill take the magnum.

If Cougers made me nervous, I would not carry a .380.  :o

You can always put yourself out of misery though...Lol. Just kidding,
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: CP on February 16, 2009, 08:45:08 AM
I’m thinking about carrying a Ruger single six, for protection against grouse.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Coasthunterjay on February 16, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
not for 250 :o ...but if you add another 100, you might be able to get a reliable weapon at a pawn for that or from the internet or friend....either way i dont think i would trust anything less than that....cheep pistol is a cheep pistol....and not reliable...
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Intruder on February 16, 2009, 08:51:14 AM
I'd probably go with a 357 Mag. with a 6 inch barrel, and a double action. Rugers are a pretty good value for the money. In your price range you'd have to find a used one, but that shouldn't be hard.

Pretty sound advice.... a 4" may pack a little better.  S/W has a light frame model but new it's going to be over the price you stated.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: CP on February 16, 2009, 09:07:01 AM
I agree with the other recommending a .357 mag. but I don’t think you can find a decent one for $250. 

Every now and then you can find a S&W model 19 for $300 if the bluing is less than perfect.  I like a model 66 but stainless does run more.  A 4” to 6” barrel S&W .357 is an easy to pack sidearm and is formidable protection against anything you might encounter.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: luvtohnt on February 16, 2009, 09:14:47 AM
I bought a Rossi (same frame as the S&W) in .357 mag 4" barrel a few years ago. Awesome little gun shoots very well. I got it for $150 bucks, slightly used, but it looked brand new if you ask me. The only drawback for a short barrel .357 is noise.

Brandon
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 16, 2009, 09:17:47 AM
I have a S&W airlite 329 PD 44mag.........It weighs 26oz sucks to shoot but is a pleasure to carry :dunno:

If you shop around you can something for your price range.  The most dangerous thing in the woods around here is other people. I have never carried a sidearm in washington for fear of critters :twocents:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: mossback91 on February 16, 2009, 09:19:29 AM
I got a ruger blackhawk 6 inch 357 mag......very nice gun and I dont fear reliability with it.

Be sure to look aorund alot in that price range...
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Huntbear on February 16, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
My carry in the woods sidearm is my Ruger Redhawk .44 mag. in a cross draw holster.  Would not want anything less than a .357.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Dansk on February 16, 2009, 11:15:23 AM
Thanks all- good stuff.  To clarify- I'm worried about the nut jobs you find out there.  Im not worried about cougars, and carry spray when i'm in Montana griz country.

A buddies brother had to knife a guy in self defense durring muz. deer a few years ago- kept coming at him like a zombie- the wierdest thing...i'm sure it was drug related.  Since then I've been itchin' to carry, take a few handgun courses, and get my CWP.

Consensus seems to be around stainless revolvers .357+  in a 4-6" barrel.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 16, 2009, 11:18:46 AM
If its just for people gun Id get a cheep glock in 40S&W :dunno:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: bobcat on February 16, 2009, 11:20:34 AM
The 357 is nice as you can also shoot the cheaper 38 Specials out of it with a lot less recoil/noise, which makes it very versatile.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: RailRob on February 16, 2009, 11:29:59 AM
easy answer!!!

Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: remington300mag on February 16, 2009, 11:38:25 AM
Go with the S&W .500.....At least then you know you'll never be out gunned!
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Dansk on February 16, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
Hmm.. the mac10 is tempting... but then I'd have to buy two and learn to shoot from the hip. :chuckle:

"John.... John... I'l be waiting, John..."
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: RailRob on February 16, 2009, 11:40:29 AM
ok ok..what about this?
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Ricochet on February 16, 2009, 11:40:50 AM
I carry a Colt Python .357 in a shoulder holster.  Very comfortable and easy to get to.  I paid $295 for mine but that was back in '78. ;)
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: RailRob on February 16, 2009, 11:49:22 AM
ok im totally kidding on my posts...I usually carry a my glock, or my ruger .45...but know i carry my .taurus .357
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Huntbear on February 16, 2009, 12:12:28 PM
Just remember, you will be carrying this in less than ideal conditions ie... wet, brush, etc.. and so on.

Revolvers go bang every time you pull the trigger(they are considered idiot proof)  Autos can jam, and unless you are real good at clearing feed jams, it may be a slight problem, when a meth head is coming at you at close range.  Just my  :twocents:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: HawkenBob on February 16, 2009, 12:28:06 PM
  Since then I've been itchin' to carry, take a few handgun courses, and get my CWP.

Consensus seems to be around stainless revolvers .357+  in a 4-6" barrel.


In the woods, while hunting, fishing or camping, going to or from, as well going to or from range. It is legal in this state to carry concealed without a permit.

You may already know that but many are surprised by this law. Just thought id throw it out to get the word out more.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: woodswalker on February 16, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
I have a S&W airlite 329 PD 44mag.........It weighs 26oz sucks to shoot but is a pleasure to carry :dunno:

If you shop around you can something for your price range.  The most dangerous thing in the woods around here is other people. I have never carried a sidearm in washington for fear of critters :twocents:

We have been having troubles with feral dogs running in the woods.  They run deer and will gang up on most anything alive.  I've had a few run-ins with them and killed a few...and taken a few at distance when spotting them running deer. NO mercy there.

I've been treed by a pack of 11 dogs....that changed what i carried...was out grouse hunting and had only the .410 and a .22 revolver.  Now i carry the .410, the Ruger .45 (or .44) and a pocket full of ammo. some of those dogs were wearing collars with recent, valid tags.  the sheriff took the collars back to the owner and explained that the dogs had been shot after treeing a bird hunter....some of them were PISSED...but one dog was over 5 MILES from home.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Slider on February 16, 2009, 12:44:05 PM
I carry a Colt Python .357 in a shoulder holster.  Very comfortable and easy to get to.  I paid $295 for mine but that was back in '78. ;)

I'll give ya $295.00 for it?  ;)
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: addicted on February 16, 2009, 12:44:50 PM
Taurus Judge with a 3 inch barrel.  :drool:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: bankwalker on February 16, 2009, 12:50:38 PM
taurus model 85 in 38sp or 357mag, run you around $330 after taxes if you are a member at OE or sportco and get the 5% member discount.

Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Ricochet on February 16, 2009, 02:17:43 PM
I carry a Colt Python .357 in a shoulder holster.  Very comfortable and easy to get to.  I paid $295 for mine but that was back in '78. ;)

I'll give ya $295.00 for it?  ;)

Slider, your generosity overwhelms me. :chuckle:  You'd probably give me the $235 I paid for my S&W Model 41 too. ;)
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: GoldTip on February 16, 2009, 02:28:48 PM
I pack a ruger redhawk Alaskan in 454casull, loaded very close to the top end with hard cast 300gr bullets.  It'll put a hurtin on anything it slams into, best part is I can buy cheaper 45LC bullets to practice with.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: gasman on February 16, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
I will be packing my Beretta .40cal

 :guns:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: jdb on February 16, 2009, 03:07:41 PM
I'd vote for either one of the S&W mountain revolvers or a ruger blackhawk with a 4 5/8" barrel in any caliber that starts with 4
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: huntnphool on February 16, 2009, 06:18:46 PM
I'm sticking with the same one I have packed for years, 92F
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on February 16, 2009, 06:27:36 PM
I pack a ruger redhawk Alaskan in 454casull, loaded very close to the top end with hard cast 300gr bullets.  It'll put a hurtin on anything it slams into, best part is I can buy cheaper 45LC bullets to practice with.

I sold mine but I think I will be replacing it soon. It shot really nice with high power and reduced loads. Dang why did I sell that gun, that was stupid.

Excellent choice Goldtip.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Dansk on February 17, 2009, 08:27:49 PM
I'm sticking with the same one I have packed for years, 92F

92F?
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: huntnphool on February 17, 2009, 08:31:03 PM
Quote
92F?

Beretta 9mm
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: timber tiger on February 18, 2009, 09:15:24 PM
so let me get this straight, you CAN carry a concealed weapon if you are going to or from your hunting/fishing or camping grounds???loaded or unloaded????I asked a cop cause this has been buggin me for a while now.He told me to put it in the glove box???I asked if it would be better to put an unloaded gun in plain sight like the dash and he told me no that would make an officer freak..I'm soo lost please help guys...
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: cascademountainhunter on February 18, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
so is it actually legal to carry a side arm while bowhunting now?
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: bobcat on February 18, 2009, 09:24:39 PM
Yes, it will be as soon as the new proposals are finalized, next month I believe.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: BC CHASER on February 18, 2009, 09:30:45 PM
I have a S&W airlite 329 PD 44mag.........It weighs 26oz sucks to shoot but is a pleasure to carry  :dunno:



Great gun and the best weight/power to carry for this state.  I have two buddies in MT who had to kill a grizzly a few years back with one using 330 grain bearloads at 25 yards.  It did kill it but it did not phase it.  It went a long ways with one in the chest.  Here I carry one but in thick grizzly country I pack my S&W 500 4'' with 440 grain casts!
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: TeacherMan on February 18, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
I have a S&W airlite 329 PD 44mag.........It weighs 26oz sucks to shoot but is a pleasure to carry :dunno:

If you shop around you can something for your price range.  The most dangerous thing in the woods around here is other people. I have never carried a sidearm in washington for fear of critters :twocents:

that is the lightest 44 I've ever heard of. Sounds like it could do a number on the wrist... :chuckle:

I second the Single six, those grouse are dangerous.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Intruder on February 19, 2009, 09:16:52 AM
I have a S&W airlite 329 PD 44mag.........It weighs 26oz sucks to shoot but is a pleasure to carry :dunno:

That gun is similiar to my Tarus Titanium Tracker 41 Mag.  I think it is like 26 oz too.  Never seen one but the Smith is likely a better made gun than mine.  Tarus is OK nothin special.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: HawkenBob on February 19, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
so let me get this straight, you CAN carry a concealed weapon if you are going to or from your hunting/fishing or camping grounds???loaded or unloaded????I asked a cop cause this has been buggin me for a while now.He told me to put it in the glove box???I asked if it would be better to put an unloaded gun in plain sight like the dash and he told me no that would make an officer freak..I'm soo lost please help guys...

The answer is yes. And the cop dosent have a clue...it's not considered a concealed weapon if its unloaded. Thats why you can transport them around unloaded without a CWP. Like if you move. Or leave the gunsmith or gun shop. The minute its loaded and hidden, its a concealed weapon.


Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: HawkenBob on February 19, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060

See number 8.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: CP on February 19, 2009, 11:21:01 AM
Never ask a cop about a point of law.  They will tell you what they want you to do, not what you are allowed to do.
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Missing on February 19, 2009, 05:43:58 PM
Yahoo, I will finally be legal :IBCOOL: I have carried a sidearm for years while bow hunting, my choice has always been a Ruger Black Hawk in 41 mag with a 6 3/4 barrel. I want to be able to shoot most if not all 5 and have a chance of hitting it while it is running at me, to do that I may need to start shooting at 40 yards. I know it actually hold six but I will save the last one for myself just in case. :yike: :yike:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: swanny on February 19, 2009, 06:29:07 PM
ok im totally kidding on my posts...I usually carry a my glock, or my ruger .45...but know i carry my .taurus .357

Which Taurus .357 do you have? I have been wanting to pick one up due to their price being quite less than other makes. Any good or bad thoughts on yours?
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: demontang on February 19, 2009, 09:56:37 PM
I normally carry either a 44mag or 45 acp. My 44 is a S&W 629 classic with a 5" barrel and I carry either a kimber ultra carry or my new XD now. The 44 has 240gr gold dots in it and the 45 has 230gr black talons, I figure if I cant stop someone or an animal with 14rd's of 45 or 6rd's of 44 then I think I have it coming.

A 357 is a great cal and the ruger sp100 is a hell of a gun, but with full house 357 loads its kind of punishing and very loud. I have a pic I will have to post of my dad shooting his at night :o
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: wence5 on March 01, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
I have an old cop gun, a S&W model 66 w/4'' barrel I purchased from a deputy sheriff in 1982. That should give a tummy ache to a cougar or meth cook I might run across. Why buy anything else?   :twocents:
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Thenewguy on March 01, 2009, 06:32:58 PM
I carry a springfield xd in 9mm

I really don't feel like 16 bullets in 9mm won't stop a black bear or a cougar. my 2 cents
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: Fitz on March 01, 2009, 10:32:58 PM
Since you are not concerned with "style" I would second the revolver suggestions in .357 in a short barrel (2 to 4 inches).  Revolvers essentially do not malfunction or jam which is important for the application you mentioned.  It is unlikely you'll need 10+ rounds from an auto...
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: rasbo on March 01, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
I carry a sp101  357..muzzy  44mag bear
Title: Re: Best sidearm for bow/muzz hunting?
Post by: shoot-em-dead on March 01, 2009, 11:04:52 PM
I'll take my .357 made by J.P.sauer&sohn. It is a single six with a six inch barrel. Made in Western Germany. I got this by luck. I went to one of my favorate gun shops and was just looking at the pistols in the cabinet and the owner asked if he could help. Everything was marked $250 and up and I told him I wanted a reliable gun for a $100. He pulled this gun out and said deal. Then I had to buy it but it, would have been dumb not to. I was just there to look so remember, gun stores do give a great deal every now and then.
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