Post by: WildBear on February 18, 2009, 05:03:53 PM
This year I'm looking to start chasing 'em down with my Dog, and need a shot gun. What should I buy, 12g, 20g, 410? Haven't the slightest Idea on them, or the best buy on brand... Any Help would be great!!
Post by: rasbo on February 18, 2009, 05:19:14 PM
Post by: PWN Kurt on February 18, 2009, 05:20:59 PM
I'd go 20 gauge. NEF>
Post by: woodswalker on February 18, 2009, 05:22:22 PM
Post by: 509er on February 18, 2009, 05:37:58 PM
Here is a pic of the 17 HMR aftermath, and a pic of my G.F. with here first grouse, shot with my 16 gauge.
Post by: TeacherMan on February 18, 2009, 05:41:59 PM
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Post by: WildBear on February 18, 2009, 07:44:19 PM
Post by: PolarBear on February 18, 2009, 07:53:37 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 18, 2009, 07:57:55 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 18, 2009, 07:59:20 PM
Of course I've gotta stick in some pics.... :chuckle:
Post by: EastWaViking on February 18, 2009, 08:05:59 PM
Post by: Birdguy on February 18, 2009, 08:42:10 PM
Post by: AlpineMuley on February 18, 2009, 08:45:14 PM
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Post by: T-Bone on February 19, 2009, 07:23:19 AM
Post by: rasbo on February 19, 2009, 07:25:52 AM
Savage 22/20....awesome to have both options available, the rifle and the shotgun....good pics with the kids Ice
Of course I've gotta stick in some pics.... :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2009, 07:28:51 AM
there is a max. caliber that can be used for grouse i think. i believe shooting them with your deer rifle for example or with a 44 mag is illegal, but can't verify it here at work.
i might be wrong.
Post by: NW-Eric on February 19, 2009, 07:37:29 AM
Post by: Curly on February 19, 2009, 10:20:41 AM
My brother got a limit of spruce grouse in the Pasayten with a sling shot. We also enjoyed grouse for dinner that night, along with the chicken/rice Mountain House.
Yep.
Post by: MHWASH on February 19, 2009, 10:38:57 AM
Forest grouse may not be killed with
any rifle or handgun 24 caliber or
larger, or shotgun containing slugs or
buckshot, during modern firearm deer
or elk seasons unless appropriate
deer or elk tags are in the hunter's
possession. Forest grouse may be
taken with shotguns as well as firearms
smaller than 24 caliber during
the entire grouse hunting season.
Taken from the 2008 regs.
My favorite is a .22 handgun. Preferably my Ruger 22/45.
Post by: C-Money on February 19, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
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Post by: bowhunterforever on February 19, 2009, 01:53:45 PM
Post by: mossback91 on February 19, 2009, 02:07:49 PM
Post by: JoshT on February 19, 2009, 02:34:08 PM
Post by: mossback91 on February 19, 2009, 02:35:08 PM
Buddy of mine used to have a .410 Contender pistol... that thing's sole purpose on this earth was dispatching grouse. I could also shoot .45 Long Colt rounds out of it... wouldn't be a bad SHTF kind of weapon.
Got a buddy who has one of those.....its Bitchin.....
Post by: highclimber on February 19, 2009, 06:09:38 PM
Post by: alecvg on March 01, 2009, 09:32:38 PM
Post by: RustneckNW on March 01, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
As for me, I love my 20ga side/side! It's taken many! But the .22, .410, bow, truck, 12ga, have all taken their share as well!
I can't wait for september...
Post by: WildBear on March 08, 2009, 04:58:28 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on March 08, 2009, 07:58:51 PM
Post by: team goosebusters on March 12, 2009, 03:41:45 AM
Post by: robb92 on March 14, 2009, 04:18:49 PM
Post by: WildBear on March 15, 2009, 11:16:57 AM
Post by: bankwalker on March 16, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
i usually use a .410 or 20ga. ive also been known to bag a new with rocks.
Post by: turkey slayer on March 16, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
Post by: lonedave on March 18, 2009, 08:59:47 PM
I use an improved cylinder in my 500C for everything including grouse. Mossberg doesn't make anything more open for the 20, but I've thought about getting an aftermarket one in skeet or just straight cylinder. For grouse on the wing, you will want as open a choke as you can get. I've also gotten to using a sling on mine and mossberg sells the posts for really cheap on their website.
Dave
Post by: WildBear on March 25, 2009, 04:32:08 PM
Post by: ing on June 12, 2009, 06:46:25 AM
Thanks for the info Dave. Was wondering about the possibilities of a sling. Can't wait to get out there!!You wont get the drop on a flushing grouse if your gun is slung on your shoulder. If you can you guys must be very fast.
Post by: ing on June 12, 2009, 06:57:44 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 14, 2009, 05:35:01 AM
Alright everyone. With the weather being like it is, I've been thinking of huntin' So ready for Sept. Grouse!! Which brings up some questions I have on weapons... Typically I just shoot them off the roads with my .22
This year I'm looking to start chasing 'em down with my Dog, and need a shot gun. What should I buy, 12g, 20g, 410? Haven't the slightest Idea on them, or the best buy on brand... Any Help would be great!!
EVERYONE:
Please keep in mind that shooting grouse off the roads is a no-no.
Can't shoot across, along or from or in the road.
Ask the bird politely to walk off the road, and you follow and then shoot him :chuckle:
Post by: merlo105 on June 27, 2009, 12:12:15 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on June 27, 2009, 10:23:01 PM
Post by: woodswalker on June 27, 2009, 10:57:28 PM
My late grandfather gave me that one...we hunted grouse out behind Lake Whatcom, he used his .22.
I've shot them with .38 specials, 30-06, sticks, rocks and walked up an grabbed them. ( really stone stupid birds...If i cant see you...you cant see me...)
Post by: Dave Workman on July 06, 2009, 06:24:12 PM
A great little gun, and one hellacious good grouse killer up until 1934!
I've seen a few of them around that were in pristine condition and I'm pretty sure they weren't registered by the old gents who owned them...people from "that" generation who worked the CCCs and WPA projects and rebuilt this country from the ruins of the Great Depression. Solid people, every damn one of 'em, just like my grandpa.
None of those people, not a one of 'em, would have ever entertained a notion of breaking the law and committing a crime...but when some government man told them their little grouse pistols were "sawed off shotguns," I think there was a resounding "F...O...!"
About the closest thing that comes to them now are the "snake charmer" guns if you can find them.
I have a little .410 single shot from Rossi that's going to get a try-out this fall.
Post by: satchel3006 on July 07, 2009, 02:23:25 PM
http://www.firestorm-sgs.com/supercomanche.htm
thats preety neat gun shoots a preety good pattern too out to about 25 yards they usualy run about 200 bucks. but i agree with you about the stupid law i doubt any crimes were ever comited with one of those
Post by: cully on July 08, 2009, 01:19:39 PM
Post by: alanger on July 08, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Post by: Rob on July 08, 2009, 03:37:23 PM
When they go down they tend to stay down.
Post by: cully on July 08, 2009, 04:15:23 PM
Post by: Rob on July 09, 2009, 08:42:11 AM
but your question intrigues me....
Post by: Buckmark on July 09, 2009, 09:48:04 AM
If a .22 comes along its my buckmark .22 or my remington nylon 66 lever (this gun has killed more animals then any other i own).
My other half thinks that grouse are to pretty to shot with a shotgun and she will only use her browning bl.22 lever gun.
Post by: addicted on July 09, 2009, 09:55:51 AM
i think the best all around grouse gun is a bockbuchesflinte..... uh i mean a rifle over shotgun the savage 22over 20 is really populart.
Post by: cully on July 09, 2009, 01:13:08 PM
Twice in a month,rediculus (http://Twice in a month,rediculus) ,in general forum
Post by: Pat/Rick on July 10, 2009, 10:25:58 AM
M-6 Scout SS .22/.410
Savage .30-30 over 12Ga.
Stevens model 72 crackshot .22
any 12 ga I got with me
Colt Frontier Scout .22
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 10, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
ive seen the 410 be more expensive than 20 or 12 guage.hell, i've never seen .410 cheaper than any 12 or 20. 16, 28 and .410 all seem to usually cost about the same, about double what 12 or 20 gauge loads usually run.
i think the best all around grouse gun is a bockbuchesflinte..... uh i mean a rifle over shotgun the savage 22over 20 is really populart.
Post by: Dave Workman on July 12, 2009, 06:29:51 AM
ive seen the 410 be more expensive than 20 or 12 guage.hell, i've never seen .410 cheaper than any 12 or 20. 16, 28 and .410 all seem to usually cost about the same, about double what 12 or 20 gauge loads usually run.
i think the best all around grouse gun is a bockbuchesflinte..... uh i mean a rifle over shotgun the savage 22over 20 is really populart.
It depends on what you buy and where. I've got a couple of boxes of .410 shells and that'll probably last me the rest of my life, since I do most of my bird hunting with a 12 or 20.
And .22 Long Rifle? I have a few bricks of the stuff, so I'll have plenty.
Do like I always advise people to do when I write about this stuff: Look for the "lost leader" ads from sporting goods stores; the stuff they put on sale just to get people through the door. Impulse shopping can clean out a wallet in no time and these guys know it.
But, if you go in with the single purpose of buying just shotgun shells for $4 a box or whatever, then you score!
Generally, these are No 5, 6 and 7 1/2, so you can't hardly go wrong.
Post by: Gutpile on July 13, 2009, 06:50:43 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/11250/Bill-MarkGrouse10-7_8-06.jpg)
Post by: rasbo on July 13, 2009, 07:00:50 PM
Post by: blindpig on July 13, 2009, 07:03:43 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on July 14, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
That looks like ten grouse for a weekend's worth of hunting.
Nicely done!
:tup:
Where was this? Somewhere in EW or in WW?
Post by: Gutpile on July 14, 2009, 02:30:55 PM
Post by: Bob33 on July 24, 2009, 09:50:32 PM
11. Prohibited firearms/hunting methods
It is illegal to:
• Hunt game birds with a shotgun capable
of holding more than three shells.
• Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol,
except forest grouse.
• Hunt game birds or game animals with
anything other than a firearm, a bow and
arrow, or by falconry. Bullfrogs may only
be taken by angling, hand dip netting,
gigging, and bow and arrow.
I don't know of anyone being cited for using a slingshot (or sticks or stones), but I've been told by more than one enforcement officer that they could be.
Post by: bobcat on July 24, 2009, 11:50:45 PM
I don't know of anyone being cited for using a slingshot (or sticks or stones), but I've been told by more than one enforcement officer that they could be.
Yeah I would think they would have bigger and more important problems to deal with than somebody killing a grouse with a slingshot.
Post by: Dave Workman on July 25, 2009, 06:42:48 AM
I don't know of anyone being cited for using a slingshot (or sticks or stones), but I've been told by more than one enforcement officer that they could be.
Yeah I would think they would have bigger and more important problems to deal with than somebody killing a grouse with a slingshot.
Ah, but this isn't about "game management" it's about "people management" >:(
And BTW: With the agency needing every penny it can scrape up...from fees or FINES...if someone can violate ya, they're going to violate ya.
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