Post by: blackdog on March 10, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on March 10, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
Would you support mule deer modern rifle season opening a week later than usual?
Does that mean opening a week later and closing a week later for the same length season, or opening a week later and closing the same time for a shorter season?
Post by: jdb on March 11, 2017, 05:48:21 AM
Post by: blackdog on March 11, 2017, 07:34:30 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 11, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
I would support them closing mule deer hunting in all 300 series gmu's
:yeah:
Post by: cbond3318 on March 11, 2017, 08:05:55 AM
I would support them closing mule deer hunting in all 300 series gmu's
:yeah:
I assume you would exclude 381, 379 and 373 from this closure?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 11, 2017, 08:23:07 AM
Yes. It use to run into mid November or maybe later up until the mid 90's and then they shortened it because of a couple bad winter kills. I don't think running it to the end of October is going to hurt anything.
Yeah, I disagree. End of October flirts with the migration and rut. 2015 was an early migration/rut and it was a slaughter with a season that ended on 10/26, just once. Would be just that much worse with a 10/31 end date every year. There's a reason the Quality tags start on 11/1. Maybe wouldn't make a big difference in those units that don't have a migration.
Post by: WARHORSE on March 11, 2017, 08:50:52 AM
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Post by: csaaphill on March 13, 2017, 03:10:12 AM
Yes. It use to run into mid November or maybe later up until the mid 90's and then they shortened it because of a couple bad winter kills. I don't think running it to the end of October is going to hurt anything.:yeah:
but depending though. I do kind of remember deer season being longer into almost NOV then elk starting in Nov instead of late Oct. so yeah maybe.
I think it started about where it does now around the 9th or so then running into about the 26th or so. Elk would start about the 7th and go into the end of close to end of NOV so again yeah maybe.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 13, 2017, 05:03:07 AM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on March 13, 2017, 07:09:59 AM
No, it would be a slaughter. Our herds can't take that.
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Post by: Igor on March 13, 2017, 07:56:07 AM
Post by: grundy53 on March 13, 2017, 08:01:12 AM
Are there any reliable statistics on numbers of deer hunters on the East side now vs. say 35 years ago? Deer season used to be 5-6 weeks long, or so, and run until Nov 12-13 on the East side. Are the problems we are experiencing with low numbers of mule deer due to increased pressure by virtue of more hunters, or something else?Loss of habit, lack of predator control, too many doe tags, fires burning up winter range.
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 13, 2017, 08:33:22 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on March 13, 2017, 11:03:12 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 13, 2017, 11:10:17 AM
The big issue I see with being a week later is that the deer begin to rut and depending on weather may be migrating. After this hard winter and other recent issues negatively impacting the deer herds, I would think herds probably need a chance to rebuild numbers. I would think that currently we would be better off reducing harvest for a year or two rather than potentially increasing harvest with a later season. When herds build back up that would be a good time to increase opportunity until the herds take another hard hit and then if might be a good idea to reduce harvest again so they can rebuild numbers. :dunno:
Dale, it sounds like you're calling for effective wildlife management. In Washington.
Post by: Ironhead on March 13, 2017, 11:16:41 AM
Are there any reliable statistics on numbers of deer hunters on the East side now vs. say 35 years ago? Deer season used to be 5-6 weeks long, or so, and run until Nov 12-13 on the East side. Are the problems we are experiencing with low numbers of mule deer due to increased pressure by virtue of more hunters, or something else?We also have rifles and scopes capable of shooting 1000 yards plus, range finders, excellent optics, your avg. hunter is more hardcore, bows are shooting well over 300 fps, more accurate muzzleloaders. Over all, hunters are a lot more technologically advanced than we were 35 years ago.
Post by: Larry S. on March 19, 2017, 08:55:55 AM