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Title: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: lazydrifter on March 18, 2017, 04:47:55 PM: Looking to buy a new Tacoma Double cab 4X4. Anyone bought one recently? Anyone work for a dealer? I talked to my local dealer and doesn't seem to be much room for price negotiating. And not much to pick from. Looking for a Silver or white. SR5. Not to interested in TRD options. Thanks

Brant
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: lewy on March 18, 2017, 04:57:39 PM: Nice little rigs, may as well buy new, used ones are just as much. have fun shopping!
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 18, 2017, 05:14:23 PM: :yeah:

I have a 2010 TRD, when i started waiving money for a chunk down, that got them to move some. I really wanted a manual at the time and that did limit me on color choices. Thankfully i got white which was my second choice.

I have window shopped recently after looking at a co workers new SR5. His experience was similar to what you describe, not alot of room to negotiate. He did buy the new sand color so he thinks that was a disadvantage in overall price. From window shopping and feedback I gather if you put a decent amount down, or pay cash you can get better deals, Or if you have a desirable toyota to trade they seem to be more willing to play "the game". Just my 2, have fun and enjoy. I have enjoyed mine alot.
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Post by: 3dvapor on March 18, 2017, 05:18:49 PM: Maybe try car guru search 500 mile radius. It should give you an idea of price on new. Search engine lets you pick your options.
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Post by: bowhunterforever on March 18, 2017, 05:30:17 PM: Tagging :tup:
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Post by: thinkingman on March 18, 2017, 05:31:16 PM: I'm pretty sure the stealership makes profit on the financing end.
They will tell you whatever you want to hear.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: h20hunter on March 18, 2017, 05:40:34 PM: Dealerships do make money on the backend. Less profit in new ones. Usually can't do much better than a Costco program if you are a member. I bought my FJ from Magic in Edmonds. 500 up from invoice was splitting the diff between invoice and msrp. Yeah, they still get a few hundred in holdback and thats fine by me.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: lazydrifter on March 18, 2017, 05:49:02 PM: I wouldn't be against purchasing a used one if I could save some money and get one with extremely low miles. I'm driving a 2006 silver 4Runner now that is in really nice shape.
the dealers I have been in to really want a trade in with that rig. One dealership we were in, had people come in while we were talking to the salesman wanting a price on it. We are going to keep it though. I know they probably make way more profit on your trade in than they do on the new sale.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: h20hunter on March 18, 2017, 05:52:52 PM: If they can buy it right for sure. Little profit in new cars, more gross in used.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Bigshooter on March 18, 2017, 06:36:30 PM: I bought a new one in 2013 and they came down $6,000 off the sticker price.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: h20hunter on March 18, 2017, 06:52:24 PM: Often some great incentives on new. For Toyota, with what you are looking at, Id look for incentives and a bit of a deal on a new before used or certified.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Bofire on March 18, 2017, 09:06:12 PM: I have been looking at them my self. Either a Tacoma or 4runner. got consumer report car edition the other day, the 4runners are all rated well, they never went to the 3.5 motor. Tacoma went to the 3.5 in 2016 and the 2016 and 17 are both rated poorly. :dunno: under "reliability" they were rated "much worse than average". Other places I have read good reviews on the 16/17's.?
Carl
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 18, 2017, 10:25:54 PM: I put 170k on a 2006. Another 100k on a 2007. I recently drove a 2016 and hated it compared to my old ones. I wouldn't buy a newer one. The switch to the smaller motor really sucked butt. I promise if you find a low miles 2007 or older you will love the power versus the newer models. I couldn't believe the difference. The new toys compared to the older ones really sucks.

The new ones have really bad visibility over the hood too. You sit so low and the damn hood and nose is so elongated it is weird driving in tight spaces. They put a bigger hood lump which makes it worse than the old fake hood scoop which was equally stupid.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 18, 2017, 10:33:12 PM: 300,000 miles on a 2006 and a 2007. Add on, I put 150,000 on my 1985 SR-5 regular cab short bed 22-RE... First year RE with solid axle.

Edit, 1984.5.... 22 RE... Bought it young in Yakima
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 18, 2017, 10:38:58 PM: Honestly, I'd go buy a 5.0 F-150 if I was looking. Toyota gas mileage doesn't make up for the newer trucks crappy power. That crappy power will also be noted by the loyal toyota folks who will typically pay a premium for a Toyota. They ain't gonna pay a premium for a recent quick chance toba *censored* motor.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: dreamunelk on March 18, 2017, 11:27:28 PM: Quote from: lazydrifter on March 18, 2017, 04:47:55 PM
Looking to buy a new Tacoma Double cab 4X4. Anyone bought one recently? Anyone work for a dealer? I talked to my local dealer and doesn't seem to be much room for price negotiating. And not much to pick from. Looking for a Silver or white. SR5. Not to interested in TRD options. Thanks

Brant

Just bought one today. Been shopping around for almost 2 months. You wont get a huge break. However, you can save a few grand by taking your time. Kind of feel bad. One dealership I liked the salesperson and they were close. Sales manager kind of irked me. Well they call this am when I am getting ready to head to other dealerships. Offer a little better. Still I told them to give me their best offer to start with and while attractive I still thought I could do better. Drove to Toyota of Olympia found one I liked and told the them I was not going to dicker. Just give me the best deal. Well, to my surprise they came back with a price below MSRP and a really good finance rate. A couple of points below what I was offered at others. Long story short I bought a 2017 for what I was paid for my 2015 that was totaled in December.

If you have good credit and can provide a good trade or cash down your can get a decent deal.
Do not buy gap insurance. Only two dealer ships respected my request to not offer. They hold their value way better than anything else.

Take your time and search around. Yes you will burn some gas and time. I think I have a total of 6 days into my search (driving and listening to sales pitch,) not counting internet and phone time. In the end I gained about 5k in the long run.

Looked at fords and chev half tons. The place I work has chevs, dodge, and fords. Based on the problems we have I only considered the ford. They could not come close in price.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: lazydrifter on March 19, 2017, 01:48:04 AM: I'm going to go drive one today. Just to get a feel and see if I like it. I bought a new one in 2005. 1st year of the new body. Double cab, V6 and the 6 speed manual tranny. Loved that truck. It was really fast and had a lot of power for a V6. Been a huge fan of Toyota's for the last 35 years. Love their reliability and their resale value. I have a huge down payment and perfect credit and not in a big hurry to buy.
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Post by: mountainman on March 19, 2017, 03:02:11 AM: PM me
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Post by: skidynastar33 on March 19, 2017, 07:18:58 AM: Magic Toyota is trying to move vehicles before they remodel. Toyota also has a $1750 rebate right now(at least that was for the rav 4) call 4-5 different dealers and start working it. I got my rav 4 under invoice quite a bit plus the rebate. But I kept letting them try to beat each other on price. Then would call a different dealer telling them I was $1000 lower than I was and seeing there reaction. To try to figure out how low I could go.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Taco280AI on March 19, 2017, 08:09:42 AM: The 3.5 is really weak on bottom end power, but good if you rev it up. Make sure you get the transmission TSB updates done to avoid gear hunting when going uphill. Also have them manually check the transmission fluid level, not with the techstream, mine was a quart low and many others were worse off.

Lot of good info on TacomaWorld

Was able to get mine for $4050 off MSRP and another $500 off from military rebate
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: b23 on March 19, 2017, 08:15:36 AM: Bought a new dbl cab TRD back in Dec. 2013 it's been the only Toyota vehicle I've ever owned. The 4.0 was ehh ok for power when I test drove it so I knew before I ever purchased it it would be getting a TRD supercharger. Waited till it had about 3000 miles before I had the TRD supercharger installed and it's been all good since. The supercharger makes a big difference in these 4.0's. Don't have a lot of miles on it, little over 40K. At the time when I bought my Taco we also had a superduty 4dr diesel but it just sat and wasn't hardly getting used so I sold it. Now that I'm down to only having the Taco, there are often times I wished I'd bought a full size 1/2 ton instead of a mid sized. As long as I driver it normal, even with the supercharger, I can easily get 19MPG with all in town driving and that's probably better than the vast majority of full sizes will do and being a mid size does make it quite a bit easier to get around in for city driving.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 19, 2017, 08:50:19 AM: Quote from: lazydrifter on March 19, 2017, 01:48:04 AM
I'm going to go drive one today. Just to get a feel and see if I like it. I bought a new one in 2005. 1st year of the new body. Double cab, V6 and the 6 speed manual tranny. Loved that truck. It was really fast and had a lot of power for a V6. Been a huge fan of Toyota's for the last 35 years. Love their reliability and their resale value. I have a huge down payment and perfect credit and not in a big hurry to buy.

My 2006 felt almost fast. You're not going to like the new motor. It's really revy and likes to search for gears and stay at a high rpm.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: dreamunelk on March 19, 2017, 09:33:58 AM: A thought!
In the counties where license fees spiked people may be reluctant to buy and some dealer may need to move inventory. May be worth a little exploring.
going to be bummed if you get a screaming deal. Did not think of until I after.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: dreamunelk on March 19, 2017, 09:36:32 AM: Quote from: Happy Gilmore on March 19, 2017, 08:50:19 AM
Quote from: lazydrifter on March 19, 2017, 01:48:04 AM
I'm going to go drive one today. Just to get a feel and see if I like it. I bought a new one in 2005. 1st year of the new body. Double cab, V6 and the 6 speed manual tranny. Loved that truck. It was really fast and had a lot of power for a V6. Been a huge fan of Toyota's for the last 35 years. Love their reliability and their resale value. I have a huge down payment and perfect credit and not in a big hurry to buy.

My 2006 felt almost fast. You're not going to like the new motor. It's really revy and likes to search for gears and stay at a high rpm.

When did they change motors? Didn't notice any issues with my 2015 and the 2017 seams about the same.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Taco280AI on March 19, 2017, 09:43:40 AM: Really? I had a 2015 TRD Sport 4.0 and have the 2017 TRD OR 3.5, and they're worlds apart. The 4.0 has better bottom end torque, 3.5 has better top end HP. The 4.0 was better at holding a gear than having to downshift one or two gears with headwinds or inclines. And depending on when yours came from the factory it might already have a later transmission update, many haven't had them yet and will go from one gear, say 5th, to 4th, back to 5th, doesn't have the power, back to 4th, and so on.

2015 had the 4.0, 2016+ has the 3.5.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: dreamunelk on March 19, 2017, 09:51:33 AM: Interesting. I went from 15 sport to 17 OR. Maybe in time I will notice. Could be that I am kind of a grandpa driver or so I have been told.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Taco280AI on March 19, 2017, 09:55:49 AM: Maybe you just got a good one. Not everyone is having the same issues, but some are having a lot of problems. I'd suggest having your transmission fluid level checked though, manually. Far too many have been low, including mine. I did get a free 6 year 100,000 bumper to bumper warranty because of it from Toyota
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 19, 2017, 11:38:38 AM: I've put alot of miles on two of them. I seriously thought something was wrong with my buddies truck

It can't pull a hill empty without shifting. A lot.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Taco280AI on March 19, 2017, 12:06:33 PM: Sounds like it needs the rev1 TSB. The second one for the trans. Supposed to be another coming out this summer too
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Post by: Taco280AI on March 19, 2017, 07:33:13 PM: Made a little change on my Taco today using PlastiDip. I like it

before
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after
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Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: TomT on March 19, 2017, 09:58:10 PM: I got a really great deal in November (2013) when the dealerships only had a few of the 2013s left and were trying to get them gone.

I did not really care about color though.

Did all my shopping and negotiations online. Never met or spoke to a salesman until I had a deal pending a test drive.
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Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 20, 2017, 07:53:26 AM: I guy I know put that stuff all over his Bronco. Let us know how it comes off a year from now. Nice truck.
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Post by: shadowless_nite on March 25, 2017, 11:28:34 PM: Quote from: Happy Gilmore on March 20, 2017, 07:53:26 AM
I guy I know put that stuff all over his Bronco. Let us know how it comes off a year from now. Nice truck.

My brother and I have done plenty of full car sprays with gallons and an actual gun, coated correctly and it lasts well over a year.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: Gobble Doc on March 26, 2017, 01:45:12 AM: I've got a 2003 double cab with 4 wheel drive. V6. Only maintaining oil changes and now at 382,000 miles. It has been very reliable.
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: MADMAX on March 26, 2017, 05:22:14 AM: I like mine
2013
4.0 tows great good mileage and plenty of power to tow 18ft boat and 20 ft TT
I also dumped the diesel and downsized my TT, no regrets
so far the only thing I dont like is a serpentine belt squeak at start up that drives me nuts. then goes away
Title: Re: Looking to buy a new Toyota Tacoma
Post by: lazydrifter on March 26, 2017, 08:07:49 AM: I've been shopping pretty hard and there isn't much dealing going on. Silver and white look like the 2 hottest colors. And of course my 2 picks. The best deal I've been able to negotiate on what I'm looking for is a 2017 Double Cab SR5 4X4 in Silver. They want just under $36,900.00 out the door. I don't know if having my own financing affects my ability to get them down any lower( I've heard that if you go thru them they get a percentage of the interest back). But I got an APR of 1.99 thru my credit union if I go 4 years. They would only lock that interest rate for 30 days.
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Post by: DJ_Mack on March 26, 2017, 09:31:43 AM: I bought a 2013 from Mike Pewitt at the rodland certified used lot in Everett. He is a great guy and I would recommend him in a heartbeat. Ended up getting the wife a 2011 4Runner from him also.

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Post by: timberghost72 on March 26, 2017, 09:50:16 AM: Quote from: lazydrifter on March 26, 2017, 08:07:49 AM
I've been shopping pretty hard and there isn't much dealing going on. Silver and white look like the 2 hottest colors. And of course my 2 picks. The best deal I've been able to negotiate on what I'm looking for is a 2017 Double Cab SR5 4X4 in Silver. They want just under $36,900.00 out the door. I don't know if having my own financing affects my ability to get them down any lower( I've heard that if you go thru them they get a percentage of the interest back). But I got an APR of 1.99 thru my credit union if I go 4 years. They would only lock that interest rate for 30 days.

Negotiate the sale price before discussing financing. When you get the price you want then tell them you are financing elsewhere.
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Post by: thinkingman on March 26, 2017, 09:52:27 AM: Quote from: timberghost72 on March 26, 2017, 09:50:16 AM
Quote from: lazydrifter on March 26, 2017, 08:07:49 AM
I've been shopping pretty hard and there isn't much dealing going on. Silver and white look like the 2 hottest colors. And of course my 2 picks. The best deal I've been able to negotiate on what I'm looking for is a 2017 Double Cab SR5 4X4 in Silver. They want just under $36,900.00 out the door. I don't know if having my own financing affects my ability to get them down any lower( I've heard that if you go thru them they get a percentage of the interest back). But I got an APR of 1.99 thru my credit union if I go 4 years. They would only lock that interest rate for 30 days.

Negotiate the sale price before discussing financing. When you get the price you want then tell them you are financing elsewhere.
Always.
I laugh when someone says 'I told them how much I could put down(big money) and they really got excited'.
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