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Post by: emac on May 29, 2017, 07:35:21 PM
Really?Because you put a name in it that's why.And whats wrong with putting a name. People do it all the time. The name has been put on this forum numerous times.
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Post by: emac on May 29, 2017, 08:04:57 PM
ok ill just leave it up to the owner of the forum.you asked i answered what i thought,you dont like the answer soOh mah. I am on this forum frequently and know you like to stir stuff up. I am not going to bite. So go back to your other threads
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Post by: emac on May 29, 2017, 08:06:12 PM
Where abouts is this 300 acre ,is it next to public land you hunt.Can't really stop anybody from hunting on there own land .Completely surrounded by private ground. Actually land locked by other land owners. Will have to get an easement
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Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 29, 2017, 08:10:51 PM
So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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Why don't you approach the landowner and offer to buy?
Post by: emac on May 29, 2017, 08:22:16 PM
I dont need to buy the land and i wouldnt pay what he is paying for it.So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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Post by: hunter399 on May 29, 2017, 08:33:06 PM
You don't want to buy the land ,but don't want him too,well your just gonna have to deal with it,eastsider deal with westsiders all the time,I dont need to buy the land and i wouldnt pay what he is paying for it.So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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Your SOL that's how it is ,keep a eye on property lines, along nobody's tresspassing then he can do what he wants.Ranting here is not gonna help you.
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Post by: Oh Mah on May 29, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
you're ranting and raving about someone who can do what you can't and i'm stirring stuff up?Wow,Why isn't this in the off topics so people can tell him how it really is?It doesn't really matter why what matters is DALE AKA BEARPAW DOESN'T WANT IT AND THAT'S THAT.ok ill just leave it up to the owner of the forum.you asked i answered what i thought,you dont like the answer soOh mah. I am on this forum frequently and know you like to stir stuff up. I am not going to bite. So go back to your other threads
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 29, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
He can sue all he wants, it will never hold in court. Simple.
I just think BP would prefer to not having to hire a lawyer and head off to Superior Court, likely in a differnt county than his own, to defend what he asked posters not to do.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 29, 2017, 10:12:13 PM
Post by: emac on May 30, 2017, 04:47:35 AM
The name of the outfitter was *censored* out of the title from all the first few posts. That is the only thing that was change. Lawsuits have been threatened in the past and many threads were cleansed of the outfitters name. Before this new thread could get out of hand and new threats of lawsuit could get underway I proactively censored the name out.Thanks for the explanation. I will be done with this thread then
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Post by: grundy53 on May 30, 2017, 06:04:45 AM
He can sue all he wants, it will never hold in court. Simple.Yeah, but it would still cost time and money to win the lawsuit.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on May 30, 2017, 06:07:47 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on May 30, 2017, 07:38:50 AM
If we see an outfitters business or personal name on this forum, that's a good thing but no name ever mentioned is bad?
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 07:47:52 AM
Looks like the mods have struck, without giving explanation :chuckle:
is this the same that bearpaw asked the forum to not talk about due to legal threat?
Same person yes. There is, was, a thread. Let's say his reputation is not the best.
From what I understand, he bought or leased the property directly across the canyon from my inlaws.
@emac
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 07:52:08 AM
So in other words.....
If we see an outfitters business or personal name on this forum, that's a good thing but no name ever mentioned is bad?
I am not sure if I would say that is 100% correct.
I think it's up to each individual to decide what their opinion of an outfitter is. I doubt that there is any outfitter in the state that has made every customer and individual they encounter in the field 100% happy. Does that make them a bad outfitter? Not necessarily. If there tends to be more bad interaction than good or pattern of bad behavior starts to show then you have to decide for yourself if you think they are a good or bad outfitter.
Everyone can have a bad day, when it becomes the norm, that is when buyer should beware.
Post by: bobcat on May 30, 2017, 08:09:38 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 08:22:10 AM
It seems the best way to get honest information on any particular outfitter, would be to post on the forum asking for opinions, and request that people send those via private message. I don't know, it does make it rather difficult to get information though, when you're not even allowed to post the name of the outfitter. :dunno::yeah:
I started on this forum looking for information about a certain area. It is frustrating that because of threats of lawsuits what I think is valuable information can't be shared openly. As a business owner I can also see the other side of not wanting information out there that would paint my business in a poor light.
Of course I would work to improve my appearance versus threaten lawsuits but everyone has a different way of doing things.
FYI the private message option is a great solution to all kinds of things on this forum, hunting spots, outfitters and taxidermists.
I surfed around looking for information and then a member a pm saying "I see you are located in "x" and have some knowledge of GMU "y". I am thinking of taking my kids there any tips of locations to start poking around?"
The same could be done for outfitters and taxidermists.
Like I said above it is frustrating that it has come to that but with the threats of lawsuits the PM is a viable way around it.
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 08:23:54 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 08:28:30 AM
Just prolonging the inevitable. Look at when everyone tried to keep the Michelle Nelson Taxidermy stuff hush hush. Threads were deleted, people were told not to mention the negative stuff, etc... It probably resulted in other members getting screwed over by her. Eventually the truth surfaced and HW stopped trying to protect her. I can see the similarities with this outfitter and everyone tippy toeing around the subject.
We're not trying to protect anyone. The forum has been threatened by lawsuits from this guy multiple times. Unless you want to fire up a savings account to assist with lawyer costs, please try and understand. We don't have the budget to be dealing with that so this is the best we can do.
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 08:33:35 AM
Just prolonging the inevitable. Look at when everyone tried to keep the Michelle Nelson Taxidermy stuff hush hush. Threads were deleted, people were told not to mention the negative stuff, etc... It probably resulted in other members getting screwed over by her. Eventually the truth surfaced and HW stopped trying to protect her. I can see the similarities with this outfitter and everyone tippy toeing around the subject.
We're not trying to protect anyone. The forum has been threatened by lawsuits from this guy multiple times. Unless you want to fire up a savings account to assist with lawyer costs, please try and understand. We don't have the budget to be dealing with that so this is the best we can do.
Sounds like you are trying to protect something. That being the forum and its members. I'm not saying what you guys are doing is wrong, but it certainly isn't helping with the potential truths and experiences surrounding this outfitter. By all means do what Is needed to ensure you CYA.
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 08:41:58 AM
Just prolonging the inevitable. Look at when everyone tried to keep the Michelle Nelson Taxidermy stuff hush hush. Threads were deleted, people were told not to mention the negative stuff, etc... It probably resulted in other members getting screwed over by her. Eventually the truth surfaced and HW stopped trying to protect her. I can see the similarities with this outfitter and everyone tippy toeing around the subject.
We're not trying to protect anyone. The forum has been threatened by lawsuits from this guy multiple times. Unless you want to fire up a savings account to assist with lawyer costs, please try and understand. We don't have the budget to be dealing with that so this is the best we can do.
Sounds like you are trying to protect something. That being the forum and its members. I'm not saying what you guys are doing is wrong, but it certainly isn't helping with the potential truths and experiences surrounding this outfitter. By all means do what Is needed to ensure you CYA.
Ya, I guess you could say we're protecting the forum. Until this place takes off and we all become millionaires off the proceeds, we'll do what we have to do.
It's weird to me that the Michelle Nelson thing comes up and not other topics that actually did bring threats of lawsuits.
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 08:50:39 AM
Just prolonging the inevitable. Look at when everyone tried to keep the Michelle Nelson Taxidermy stuff hush hush. Threads were deleted, people were told not to mention the negative stuff, etc... It probably resulted in other members getting screwed over by her. Eventually the truth surfaced and HW stopped trying to protect her. I can see the similarities with this outfitter and everyone tippy toeing around the subject.
We're not trying to protect anyone. The forum has been threatened by lawsuits from this guy multiple times. Unless you want to fire up a savings account to assist with lawyer costs, please try and understand. We don't have the budget to be dealing with that so this is the best we can do.
Sounds like you are trying to protect something. That being the forum and its members. I'm not saying what you guys are doing is wrong, but it certainly isn't helping with the potential truths and experiences surrounding this outfitter. By all means do what Is needed to ensure you CYA.
Ya, I guess you could say we're protecting the forum. Until this place takes off and we all become millionaires off the proceeds, we'll do what we have to do.
It's weird to me that the Michelle Nelson thing comes up and not other topics that actually did bring threats of lawsuits.
Keep the money flowing in and you admin will be the next millionaires of WA. ;)
I just brought up MNT because it was an example of a poorly run business not getting the proper publicity to prevent future customers from getting screwed. I am unaware of the HW inner circle lawsuit threats.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on May 30, 2017, 08:57:08 AM
Post by: JDHasty on May 30, 2017, 09:03:28 AM
So in other words.....
If we see an outfitters business or personal name on this forum, that's a good thing but no name ever mentioned is bad?
Seems to be
Post by: JDHasty on May 30, 2017, 09:10:05 AM
Just prolonging the inevitable. Look at when everyone tried to keep the Michelle Nelson Taxidermy stuff hush hush. Threads were deleted, people were told not to mention the negative stuff, etc... It probably resulted in other members getting screwed over by her. Eventually the truth surfaced and HW stopped trying to protect her. I can see the similarities with this outfitter and everyone tippy toeing around the subject.
We're not trying to protect anyone. The forum has been threatened by lawsuits from this guy multiple times. Unless you want to fire up a savings account to assist with lawyer costs, please try and understand. We don't have the budget to be dealing with that so this is the best we can do.
Sounds like you are trying to protect something. That being the forum and its members. I'm not saying what you guys are doing is wrong, but it certainly isn't helping with the potential truths and experiences surrounding this outfitter. By all means do what Is needed to ensure you CYA.
Ya, I guess you could say we're protecting the forum. Until this place takes off and we all become millionaires off the proceeds, we'll do what we have to do.
It's weird to me that the Michelle Nelson thing comes up and not other topics that actually did bring threats of lawsuits.
Keep the money flowing in and you admin will be the next millionaires of WA. ;)
I just brought up MNT because it was an example of a poorly run business not getting the proper publicity to prevent future customers from getting screwed. I am unaware of the HW inner circle lawsuit threats.
The business my relative founded bought up a chain of shops that after the founder passed away the sons, actually one son, had, over a decade ruined the reputation on. They ran it under the old name long enough to clean up the image before rebadging them and bringing them under the corporate umbrella.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 09:38:05 AM
I agree Miles. There's probably a way to wordsmith the review of the outfitter in question to keep any legal claim baseless and give other members a heads up.I am sure there is and in reality this thread didn't take off like others in the past. I think we are a little gun shy right now and want to make sure nothing flares up. Because of that I would be very careful of how anything about said *censored* guide service gets presented.
There are two big problems with threads about this particular outfitter. Number one and most important is it puts the site owner in a position, right or wrong, of having to possibly defend himself legally.
Number two is threads like this have to watched by the mod team more than other threads so that a tight leash can be kept on comments to prevent the number one problem, a lawsuit, from happening.
It then becomes a risk versus reward. Is it worth having the chance of a lawsuit and the extra mod time on one particular thread or is it easier to just lock it or delete it?
Post by: Taco280AI on May 30, 2017, 11:25:46 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
What exactly is the threat of lawsuit by saying X outfitter is buying land in NE WA? There is nothing to sue for. Nothing bad was said, no accusations, no opinions, nothing that potentially can harm the outfitters name or reputation in any way :dunno:
It's the spinoff from his name being mentioned that would result if names were mentioned. It's not worth the time Dale or the other mods would have to spend or the potential financial risk to him. We're not taking that chance, so let it rest.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
:yeah: Beat me to it, man you are fast. I was quoting my explanation of why I did what I did from page two.What exactly is the threat of lawsuit by saying X outfitter is buying land in NE WA? There is nothing to sue for. Nothing bad was said, no accusations, no opinions, nothing that potentially can harm the outfitters name or reputation in any way :dunno:
It's the spinoff from his name being mentioned that would result if names were mentioned. We're not taking that chance, so let it rest.
FWIW I am just as frustrated that we can't list the name, unfortunately it's just not worth the hassle.
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 11:33:22 AM
:yeah: Beat me to it, man you are fast. I was quoting my explanation of why I did what I did from page two.What exactly is the threat of lawsuit by saying X outfitter is buying land in NE WA? There is nothing to sue for. Nothing bad was said, no accusations, no opinions, nothing that potentially can harm the outfitters name or reputation in any way :dunno:
It's the spinoff from his name being mentioned that would result if names were mentioned. We're not taking that chance, so let it rest.
FWIW I am just as frustrated that we can't list the name, unfortunately it's just not worth the hassle.
:yeah:
Me too.
Post by: DaveMonti on May 30, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
I could care less who buys the land. But when someone with his reputation buys it, thats a different story. Pretty sure he has worn out his welcome in one place so he is moving on to another. This is no secret.
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I really love this.
"I don't care. Except when I do care." Nothing like a good contradiction to establish credibility.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 30, 2017, 02:10:40 PM
I could care less who buys the land. But when someone with his reputation buys it, thats a different story. Pretty sure he has worn out his welcome in one place so he is moving on to another. This is no secret.
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I really love this.
"I don't care. Except when I do care." Nothing like a good contradiction to establish credibility.
Lol
Post by: Gringo31 on May 30, 2017, 02:22:53 PM
Example:
"Everyone knows that one moderator who thinks he's the coolest.....I think his name is Smachalope or something".
:chuckle:
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Post by: seth30 on May 30, 2017, 02:37:51 PM
Snowflakes crap? Is it white? How can you tell?:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: 2MANY on May 30, 2017, 02:40:59 PM
Violets are Blue,
Sugar Shane was a boxer,
Now go get a clue.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Roses are Red,Creative for sure but not the guide this one started about.
Violets are Blue,
Sugar Shane was a boxer,
Now go get a clue.
Post by: 2MANY on May 30, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
It ain't him.
And if snowflakes crap,
I'm done sticking my tongue out in snow storms.
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 02:50:49 PM
Or am I just playing with fire :dunno:
Well, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:dunno:
Post by: Gringo31 on May 30, 2017, 02:54:01 PM
Quote
Well, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:IBCOOL:
PHEW! I was sweating it....
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Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 03:01:20 PM
FYI @jackelope has threatened to punch me in the face before. Full disclosure I probably deserved to be punched in the face. I think @Woodchuck even offered to hold his beer. I was enjoying a delicious hard cider with fireball at the time.QuoteWell, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:IBCOOL:
PHEW! I was sweating it....
Post by: Timberstalker on May 30, 2017, 03:04:25 PM
FYI @jackelope has threatened to punch me in the face before. Full disclosure I probably deserved to be punched in the face. I think @Woodchuck even offered to hold his beer. I was enjoying a delicious hard cider with fireball at the time.QuoteWell, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:IBCOOL:
PHEW! I was sweating it....
Drinking the hard stuff, eh?
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 03:05:28 PM
FYI @jackelope has threatened to punch me in the face before. Full disclosure I probably deserved to be punched in the face. I think @Woodchuck even offered to hold his beer. I was enjoying a delicious hard cider with fireball at the time.QuoteWell, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:IBCOOL:
PHEW! I was sweating it....
Lol
Post by: gaddy on May 30, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Snow flake crap is real. The reason nobody sees it is because the flakes defecate at the beginning of their fall. Since the crap is heavier than the flake, it falls faster. Lightening the load of the flake allows it to drift downward more slowly, thus covering the flake crap prior to people seeing it. The moisture from the first flakes that cover the crap dissolve the crap. This happens continually through the snow fall so no crap is seen. And by the way, snow flake crap is white. And there you have it.
Now, the "people" referred to as snow flakes spew crap that I don't understand.
Post by: Special T on May 30, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
The reason why they call those angry bombs is because that combo is a hangover maker. I had 1 last summer on a hot day... and I mean just 1. I woke up the next morning with my head hurting more than a weekend bender!FYI @jackelope has threatened to punch me in the face before. Full disclosure I probably deserved to be punched in the face. I think @Woodchuck even offered to hold his beer. I was enjoying a delicious hard cider with fireball at the time.QuoteWell, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:IBCOOL:
PHEW! I was sweating it....
They taste great on a hot day, but I'm cured.
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Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 03:17:03 PM
Perhaps we could say whom was not it and let people read between the lines?
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Sure, I'll start.
It was not Bearpaw Outfitters.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 03:30:25 PM
I hear that. One is great, two is normally my limit and I've been told I shouldn't ever have 6 again.The reason why they call those angry bombs is because that combo is a hangover maker. I had 1 last summer on a hot day... and I mean just 1. I woke up the next morning with my head hurting more than a weekend bender!FYI @jackelope has threatened to punch me in the face before. Full disclosure I probably deserved to be punched in the face. I think @Woodchuck even offered to hold his beer. I was enjoying a delicious hard cider with fireball at the time.QuoteWell, I won't sue you for calling me names.
:IBCOOL:
PHEW! I was sweating it....
They taste great on a hot day, but I'm cured.
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Post by: Special T on May 30, 2017, 04:07:27 PM
I doubt any one though he was a crook so that was a pretty safe statement.Perhaps we could say whom was not it and let people read between the lines?
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Sure, I'll start.
It was not Bearpaw Outfitters.
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Post by: bearpaw on May 30, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
Some of you people just have to make things hard. I get threats of lawsuit just about every month by someone who claims their business is being harmed by members who post damaging remarks on this forum. I don't have the money to layer up on all these threats! So we have removed topics when lawsuits seem likely. The person who was the subject of this topic has a lot of history and I have received lawsuit threats from a hired attorney. As a result I removed topics or censored out his name to avoid having to go to court.
Sometimes these negative claims are truly valid claims, the business might have been unfair to the customer, but sometimes the problem is an unrealistic customer just looking to cause a reputable business as much trouble as they can because they didn't get their way, it might be totally unfair but by golly they want to cost the business owner as much as they can. Another common issue is heresay, sometimes people spout off in a negative manner without even knowing all the facts. Other times what you read is a truthful review and it's a good thing you heard about the shady character.
How much do the untruthful statements cost honest businesses? How many people are ripped off by dishonest characters or businesses? How do you know what's true and not true? This is the world we live in today, especially with social media.
I have tried to avoid getting mixed up in a lawsuit but you all want to be able to post comments so here is the fairest way to deal with this:
ALL MEMBERS
Going forward you are welcome to post negative comments and reviews about this person or any others if you put your name in your post. That way you can receive the lawsuit letters! Let's face it, if you post on facebook your name is there, so man up and put your name with your negative review.
Post by: bearpaw on May 30, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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Post by: bearpaw on May 30, 2017, 04:20:13 PM
So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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You are welcome to edit your first post and put the name back on the title, if you add your name to the post. If you don't know how to edit it yourself, reply back that you want the name put back on and you accept all responsibility for your remarks, and I'll add your name and his name! :tup:
The same scenario applies to everyone, add your name to your post and feel free to say what you want. If you need help, reply back in this topic with your name and that you accept full responsibility and we'll add whatever you post to your original post. :tup:
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Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 05:40:44 PM
For all future posts where I state my opinions, my name is Russ. Moderators take note and don't even think about touching that ban button, I will be exempt from everything except lawsuits. LolI just got the keys to the ban button last week. :chuckle:
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 05:44:26 PM
For all future posts where I state my opinions, my name is Russ. Moderators take note and don't even think about touching that ban button, I will be exempt from everything except lawsuits. LolI just got the keys to the ban button last week. :chuckle:
When you get a lawyer we'll talk. :chuckle:
Post by: Russ McDonald on May 30, 2017, 06:04:38 PM
For all future posts where I state my opinions, my name is Russ. Moderators take note and don't even think about touching that ban button, I will be exempt from everything except lawsuits. LolNo sorry you can't use that name. To confusing now :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: quadrafire on May 30, 2017, 06:05:34 PM
Too many hiding behind the keyboard.
Post by: gasman on May 30, 2017, 06:07:11 PM
I'm told by people that were close to him that he has a draft letter all written up that he sends out to people and threaten lawsuit of slander, It's a letter that he wrote up himself to scare people from saying anything negative about him.
I don't give a rat's behind what that guy thinks, he has crossed and screwed over plenty of people that have posted clearly on public forums, and Facebook with names and dates.
I personally know of a gun that he borrowed from somebody and would not give it back, had it for over a year and as soon as the person posted on Facebook about the situation he returned it the next day.
So yes this guy is scum.
Pete Miller
Post by: JDHasty on May 30, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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You are welcome to edit your first post and put the name back on the title, if you add your name to the post. If you don't know how to edit it yourself, reply back that you want the name put back on and you accept all responsibility for your remarks, and I'll add your name and his name! :tup:
The same scenario applies to everyone, add your name to your post and feel free to say what you want. If you need help, reply back in this topic with your name and that you accept full responsibility and we'll add whatever you post to your original post. :tup:
I don't post anything about anyone I wouldn't say to their face. Therefore I am who I am and I am not that hard to find.
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 06:22:06 PM
For all future posts where I state my opinions, my name is Russ. Moderators take note and don't even think about touching that ban button, I will be exempt from everything except lawsuits. LolNo sorry you can't use that name. To confusing now :chuckle: :chuckle:
If you get any letters from lawyers that are for me, please shred them immediately.
Post by: Russ McDonald on May 30, 2017, 06:25:23 PM
:tup: :tup: :tup:For all future posts where I state my opinions, my name is Russ. Moderators take note and don't even think about touching that ban button, I will be exempt from everything except lawsuits. LolNo sorry you can't use that name. To confusing now :chuckle: :chuckle:
If you get any letters from lawyers that are for me, please shred them immediately.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 30, 2017, 06:32:54 PM
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 06:33:34 PM
So i have read all the post about theses guys throughout the years. Would you guys please keep them on the westside. I just got word brian is leasing to own 300 acres in my next of the woods and from what i have read on this forum we dont need him in our neck of the woods.
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You are welcome to edit your first post and put the name back on the title, if you add your name to the post. If you don't know how to edit it yourself, reply back that you want the name put back on and you accept all responsibility for your remarks, and I'll add your name and his name! :tup:
The same scenario applies to everyone, add your name to your post and feel free to say what you want. If you need help, reply back in this topic with your name and that you accept full responsibility and we'll add whatever you post to your original post. :tup:
I don't post anything about anyone I wouldn't say to their face. Therefore I am who I am and I am not that hard to find.
Just keep in mind the next time you say something on here that is potentially slanderous, include your full name whether or not you'd say it to their face.
Thanks.
Post by: h20hunter on May 30, 2017, 06:33:49 PM
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2017, 06:34:24 PM
Post by: hunter399 on May 30, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
Last name Dover
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: hunter399 on May 30, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Last name coholic
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on May 30, 2017, 06:42:11 PM
:tup:For all future posts where I state my opinions, my name is Russ. Moderators take note and don't even think about touching that ban button, I will be exempt from everything except lawsuits. LolI just got the keys to the ban button last week. :chuckle:
When you get a lawyer we'll talk. :chuckle:
(That's me giving you the thumbs up not me flexing my ban button thumb. :chuckle: )
Post by: grundy53 on May 30, 2017, 06:43:49 PM
I have already been threatened by Shane on Facebook. Told him to bring it on, and I've never seen or heard another word from him ever since.Shane is not the guy in question on this thread. Different guy.
I'm told by people that were close to him that he has a draft letter all written up that he sends out to people and threaten lawsuit of slander, It's a letter that he wrote up himself to scare people from saying anything negative about him.
I don't give a rat's behind what that guy thinks, he has crossed and screwed over plenty of people that have posted clearly on public forums, and Facebook with names and dates.
I personally know of a gun that he borrowed from somebody and would not give it back, had it for over a year and as soon as the person posted on Facebook about the situation he returned it the next day.
So yes this guy is scum.
Pete Miller
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Post by: Timberstalker on May 30, 2017, 06:49:44 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 30, 2017, 06:50:07 PM
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 07:07:36 PM
Russ.
Post by: grundy53 on May 30, 2017, 07:07:45 PM
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Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 07:09:12 PM
Okay. That's enough. This isn't off topics.
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Lol, I thought it was headed for the jokes section.
Post by: Timberstalker on May 30, 2017, 07:14:37 PM
Thanks, Mr. Mehoff.
Post by: h20hunter on May 30, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
Post by: Miles on May 30, 2017, 07:29:27 PM
Post by: hunter399 on May 30, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 31, 2017, 05:27:22 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
Post by: Miles on May 31, 2017, 05:30:42 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
And this whole time I thought we shared the same name.
Signed,
Jay Sharkbait
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 31, 2017, 05:33:35 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
And this whole time I thought we shared the same name.
Signed,
Jay Sharkbait
My guess is your mom might be from the San Diego area?
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 07:23:37 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Post by: Miles on May 31, 2017, 07:25:21 AM
Horrible example:
Bearpaw outfitters promised me a 300" mule deer and I only saw one spike.
Sincerely,
Donald Trump
For the slower folks, this is not really the Donald... it's a joke.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 31, 2017, 07:31:30 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.
Post by: Gringo31 on May 31, 2017, 07:38:12 AM
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on May 31, 2017, 07:40:21 AM
I have already been threatened by Shane on Facebook. Told him to bring it on, and I've never seen or heard another word from him ever since.Jay, You don't think that if you are a big enough boy to post a derogatory review of someone or something that you should be a big enough boy to stand behind it?
I'm told by people that were close to him that he has a draft letter all written up that he sends out to people and threaten lawsuit of slander, It's a letter that he wrote up himself to scare people from saying anything negative about him.
I don't give a rat's behind what that guy thinks, he has crossed and screwed over plenty of people that have posted clearly on public forums, and Facebook with names and dates.
I personally know of a gun that he borrowed from somebody and would not give it back, had it for over a year and as soon as the person posted on Facebook about the situation he returned it the next day.
So yes this guy is scum.
Pete Miller
This quote seems like a fine example.
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 07:43:19 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.
How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.
Post by: jstone on May 31, 2017, 07:55:11 AM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 31, 2017, 07:58:04 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.
How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.
Please re-read my post and your red highlights
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 08:04:52 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.
How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.
Please re-read my post and your red highlights
Maybe I'm missing something, but the stuff in red seems to say to me that if Hunt-WA gets threatened with a lawsuit over something you post on here, Hunt-WA can reveal your identity to whoever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But aside from all that, really, what's so hard to understand? Don't say stuff that will put the forum in jeopardy. If you decide to, man up and post your identity. Take responsibility for your action!
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 08:08:34 AM
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
Post by: hunter399 on May 31, 2017, 08:11:35 AM
Post by: Miles on May 31, 2017, 08:13:18 AM
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage. :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on May 31, 2017, 08:15:13 AM
FYI this guy isn't dumb, the law firm that he hired and the lawyer in particular specializes in this type of internet stuff as I recall from my search on them. With the information that you have already given to be a member of this forum they will have no problem tracking you down.
What I still don't get is why people want to talk about this outfitter or the other few that come up from time to time and put the forum at risk of a lawsuit. The owner has asked to let it go and people continue to bring this stuff up. Then when he gives them a way to do it they complain about that and don't want to follow those rules or shoot holes in why that won't work.
:bash:
Post by: hunter399 on May 31, 2017, 08:16:51 AM
That's why Amazon,midway,and others send emails for reviews after you purchess items for reviews,and other websites try to weed out false reviews and try to get reviews from customer's and not non customers.Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
Post by: Woodchuck on May 31, 2017, 08:17:02 AM
He has 3 reach advantages.Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage. :chuckle:
Post by: Miles on May 31, 2017, 08:17:58 AM
I am fine with it remaining that way.
Post by: Miles on May 31, 2017, 08:18:31 AM
. LolHe has 3 reach advantages.Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage. :chuckle:
Post by: Timberstalker on May 31, 2017, 08:19:51 AM
He has 3 reach advantages.Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage. :chuckle:
Wow. :yike:
Post by: Woodchuck on May 31, 2017, 08:26:27 AM
Have you met him? He's 6'14"He has 3 reach advantages.Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
Thank you.
Someone gets it.
He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage. :chuckle:
Wow. :yike:
Post by: Timberstalker on May 31, 2017, 08:27:09 AM
:chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on May 31, 2017, 08:36:20 AM
Post by: Miles on May 31, 2017, 08:37:51 AM
First time I met him all I could think is I'm inviting this guy elk hunting, pack mule for sure. I don't know about 6'14" but 6'4" I would believe.
So he's 5' 16" is what you're saying?
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 31, 2017, 08:46:25 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 08:51:42 AM
First time I met him all I could think is I'm inviting this guy elk hunting, pack mule for sure. I don't know about 6'14" but 6'4" I would believe.
So he's 5' 16" is what you're saying?
Precisely.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 31, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.
How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.
Please re-read my post and your red highlights
Maybe I'm missing something, but the stuff in red seems to say to me that if Hunt-WA gets threatened with a lawsuit over something you post on here, Hunt-WA can reveal your identity to whoever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But aside from all that, really, what's so hard to understand? Don't say stuff that will put the forum in jeopardy. If you decide to, man up and post your identity. Take responsibility for your action!
I was just looking for clarification. I'm ok with that information being released due to formal complaint or legal action. I am not ok with that info being released in ANY open forum.
Post by: cbond3318 on May 31, 2017, 09:06:19 AM
:chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.
You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.
You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.
Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.
How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.
Please re-read my post and your red highlights
Maybe I'm missing something, but the stuff in red seems to say to me that if Hunt-WA gets threatened with a lawsuit over something you post on here, Hunt-WA can reveal your identity to whoever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But aside from all that, really, what's so hard to understand? Don't say stuff that will put the forum in jeopardy. If you decide to, man up and post your identity. Take responsibility for your action!
I was just looking for clarification. I'm ok with that information being released due to formal complaint or legal action. I am not ok with that info being released in ANY open forum.
Me neither.
Post by: 2MANY on May 31, 2017, 09:12:35 AM
They do it for a living.
Most others do it for a hobby.
Is the outfitter's name...............................................................HillRwe Clinton?
Post by: Rainier10 on May 31, 2017, 09:19:52 AM
My guess is knowing what you know now it may have been better to overpay for this piece of property and control who uses it versus having someone else overpay for it and you have no control.
What did he overpay? $200 an acre/$60,000? Over the next 20 years that is $3,000 too much per year. Is it worth $250 a month to not have to deal with this outfitter? To me it would be.
A piece of land is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it and they aren't making any more land.
Post by: JDHasty on May 31, 2017, 09:23:15 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 09:36:12 AM
Well now that we got all that out of the way. Back to the original post. I can understand your frustration with someone buying the land, but it was for sale to anyone that wanted to pay the price. I have overpaid for property next to me because I didn't want to have to deal with a problematic neighbor.
My guess is knowing what you know now it may have been better to overpay for this piece of property and control who uses it versus having someone else overpay for it and you have no control.
What did he overpay? $200 an acre/$60,000? Over the next 20 years that is $3,000 too much per year. Is it worth $250 a month to not have to deal with this outfitter? To me it would be.
A piece of land is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it and they aren't making any more land.
He paid roughly $1k an acre if he bought it. I don't know for sure if he bought it or leased it.
Post by: KFhunter on May 31, 2017, 09:46:13 AM
He can sue all he wants, it will never hold in court. Simple.
Speaking in general terms:
A Litigation Bully, uses litigation (or the threat of) to get what they want. It costs a lot of money to defend oneself even if the outcome is all but certain. So no, it won't likely hold in court, but getting to that point is costly and extremely stressful to the victim.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing some law to give victims of litigious bully's some legal means of counter suing. If someone is going to mount a lawsuit to "bully" someone they should have some more skin in the game.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 31, 2017, 09:47:27 AM
What are they going for? I know by me the assessed value is $625 per acre and depending on the land they are selling for $2,000 an acre. Those are 20 acre lots. I would imagine that larger acreage the cost per acre goes down a bit.Well now that we got all that out of the way. Back to the original post. I can understand your frustration with someone buying the land, but it was for sale to anyone that wanted to pay the price. I have overpaid for property next to me because I didn't want to have to deal with a problematic neighbor.
My guess is knowing what you know now it may have been better to overpay for this piece of property and control who uses it versus having someone else overpay for it and you have no control.
What did he overpay? $200 an acre/$60,000? Over the next 20 years that is $3,000 too much per year. Is it worth $250 a month to not have to deal with this outfitter? To me it would be.
A piece of land is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it and they aren't making any more land.
He paid roughly $1k an acre if he bought it. I don't know for sure if he bought it or leased it.
Post by: boneaddict on May 31, 2017, 09:59:54 AM
If this is where I think it is, its not even farmable......
Post by: Rainier10 on May 31, 2017, 10:26:44 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 12:04:39 PM
It also has to do with it is zoned for.....farmable or scrub.
If this is where I think it is, its not even farmable......
It's one side and part of the bottom of a steep canyon with a small creek in the bottom. It's super steep on the sides. It's definitely not farmable, but I don't think that's why he bought it. Lots of chukars and huns. A fair amount of deer but it's only 300 acres and the bordering landowners are not too friendly about letting a guy on their land. Been there, done that. My wife's family owns the other side of the canyon/creek bottom that borders this piece of land. I haven't hunted this piece of land in years. It's been reasonably productive for legal deer. I've never seen a large buck come out of this area.
Post by: Caseyd on May 31, 2017, 12:33:16 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 31, 2017, 01:07:32 PM
It also has to do with it is zoned for.....farmable or scrub.
If this is where I think it is, its not even farmable......
It's one side and part of the bottom of a steep canyon with a small creek in the bottom. It's super steep on the sides. It's definitely not farmable, but I don't think that's why he bought it. Lots of chukars and huns. A fair amount of deer but it's only 300 acres and the bordering landowners are not too friendly about letting a guy on their land. Been there, done that. My wife's family owns the other side of the canyon/creek bottom that borders this piece of land. I haven't hunted this piece of land in years. It's been reasonably productive for legal deer. I've never seen a large buck come out of this area.
This is the same spot you kept posting those giant branch bulls?
Post by: jackelope on May 31, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
It also has to do with it is zoned for.....farmable or scrub.
If this is where I think it is, its not even farmable......
It's one side and part of the bottom of a steep canyon with a small creek in the bottom. It's super steep on the sides. It's definitely not farmable, but I don't think that's why he bought it. Lots of chukars and huns. A fair amount of deer but it's only 300 acres and the bordering landowners are not too friendly about letting a guy on their land. Been there, done that. My wife's family owns the other side of the canyon/creek bottom that borders this piece of land. I haven't hunted this piece of land in years. It's been reasonably productive for legal deer. I've never seen a large buck come out of this area.
This is the same spot you kept posting those giant branch bulls?
No. Different spot a few miles away.
Post by: bearpaw on May 31, 2017, 02:04:09 PM
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
I appreciate your response. Yes, most likely all internet service providers (ISP's) are threatened regularly by lawsuits, in most cases I doubt that anyone like Zuckerberg deals with any of it, big companies have lawyers to deal with those issues.
Lawsuit threats come nearly every time someone is defamed on the forum so I've looked into internet defamation quite extensively including an attorney consultation so that I have a very good understanding of the law. Essentially anyone can sue on the basis that damages to their reputation or business have resulted due to slander. The proof of slander is the burden of the accuser, but even if the court rules in favor of the defense (ISP) there are still attorney expenses which can be significant, so I've tried to avoid going to court and I get very tired of having to deal with lawsuit threats caused most often by outspoken internet tough guys who don't have the guts to put their real name with their comments. Thus my new rule, put your full name with your comments and feel free to post away.
There is a significant level of security provided to ISP's by laws enacted by congress. Following that numerous courts have ruled that ISP's (internet service providers) like H-W are not responsible for what publishers (forum members) post on the internet using their service. However, if an ISP is contacted by someone regarding slanderous untruthful comments, and the ISP fails to remove those untruthful comments, and if the plaintiff can prove damages and that the comments are false to the court, there have been lawsuits awarded to the plaintiff.
Reviews are a good thing, I read them too about all kinds of things and they sometimes influence my buying decisions. But, the biggest problem is that too often people throw out comments based on hearsay without knowing the real facts or they purposefully say something untruthful to get even because they thought they were wronged, then the next guy says more and pretty soon the whole topic is pretty defamatory and full of speculative remarks and untruths. I don't want to be responsible for member's comments based on hearsay or rumors and I have no way of knowing who is truthful and who is just being a gossiper or troublemaker.
So if members post negative comments or reviews they can include their full name, that will create accountability. Negative comments without a full name will likely be removed depending on the comment. However, if I am threatened and the comments in question may be untruthful, H-W may still have to remove topics or comments to avoid potential litigation. This policy is intended to keep H-W (myself) out of court!
slan·der
ˈslandər
noun
1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
"he is suing the TV network for slander"
verb
1.
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
"they were accused of slandering the head of state"
synonyms: defame (someone's character), blacken someone's name, tell lies about, speak ill/evil of, sully someone's reputation, libel, smear, cast aspersions on, spread scandal about, besmirch, tarnish, taint; malign, traduce, vilify, disparage, denigrate, run down, slur; informalbadmouth, dis, trash; formalderogate
"they were accused of slandering the minister"
li·bel
ˈlībəl
noun
1.
a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation, scandalmongering; More
2.
(in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) a plaintiff's written declaration.
verb
1.
defame (someone) by publishing a libel.
"she alleged the magazine had libeled her"
synonyms: defame, malign, slander, blacken someone's name, sully someone's reputation, speak ill/evil of, traduce, smear, cast aspersions on, drag someone's name through the mud, besmirch, tarnish, taint, tell lies about, stain, impugn someone's character/integrity, vilify, denigrate, disparage, run down, stigmatize, discredit, slur; More
2.
(in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) bring a suit against (someone).
Post by: JDHasty on May 31, 2017, 02:08:14 PM
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
I appreciate your response. Yes, most likely all internet service providers (ISP's) are threatened regularly by lawsuits, in most cases I doubt that anyone like Zuckerberg deals with any of it, big companies have lawyers to deal with those issues.
Lawsuit threats come nearly every time someone is defamed on the forum so I've looked into internet defamation quite extensively including an attorney consultation so that I have a very good understanding of the law. Essentially anyone can sue on the basis that damages to their reputation or business have resulted due to slander. The proof of slander is the burden of the accuser, but even if the court rules in favor of the defense (ISP) there are still attorney expenses which can be significant, so I've tried to avoid going to court and I get very tired of having to deal with lawsuit threats caused most often by outspoken internet tough guys who don't have the guts to put their real name with their comments. Thus my new rule, put your full name with your comments and feel free to post away.
There is a significant level of security provided to ISP's by laws enacted by congress. Following that numerous courts have ruled that ISP's (internet service providers) like H-W are not responsible for what publishers (forum members) post on the internet using their service. However, if an ISP is contacted by someone regarding slanderous untruthful comments, and the ISP fails to remove those untruthful comments, and if the plaintiff can prove the comments are false to the court, there have been lawsuits awarded to the plaintiff.
Reviews are a good thing, I read them too about all kinds of things and they sometimes influence my buying decisions. But, the biggest problem is that too often people throw out comments based on hearsay without knowing the real facts or they purposefully say something untruthful to get even because they thought they were wronged, then the next guy says more and pretty soon the whole topic is pretty defamatory and full of speculative remarks and untruths. I don't want to be responsible for member's comments based on hearsay or rumors and I have no way of knowing who is truthful and who is just being a gossiper or troublemaker.
So if members post negative comments or reviews they can include their full name, that will create accountability. Negative comments without a full name will likely be removed depending on the comment. However, if I am threatened and the comments in question may be untruthful, H-W may still have to remove topics or comments to avoid potential litigation. This policy is intended to keep H-W (myself) out of court!
slan·der
ˈslandər
noun
1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
"he is suing the TV network for slander"
verb
1.
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
"they were accused of slandering the head of state"
synonyms: defame (someone's character), blacken someone's name, tell lies about, speak ill/evil of, sully someone's reputation, libel, smear, cast aspersions on, spread scandal about, besmirch, tarnish, taint; malign, traduce, vilify, disparage, denigrate, run down, slur; informalbadmouth, dis, trash; formalderogate
"they were accused of slandering the minister"
li·bel
ˈlībəl
noun
1.
a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation, scandalmongering; More
2.
(in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) a plaintiff's written declaration.
verb
1.
defame (someone) by publishing a libel.
"she alleged the magazine had libeled her"
synonyms: defame, malign, slander, blacken someone's name, sully someone's reputation, speak ill/evil of, traduce, smear, cast aspersions on, drag someone's name through the mud, besmirch, tarnish, taint, tell lies about, stain, impugn someone's character/integrity, vilify, denigrate, disparage, run down, stigmatize, discredit, slur; More
2.
(in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) bring a suit against (someone).
I would suggest that they come just as often every time some flimflammer finds out that he/she has been exposed.
Post by: bearpaw on May 31, 2017, 02:25:50 PM
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....
Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun. I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out. I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community". I apologize for any unneeded BS. It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum. Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted? Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.
Gringo
P.S. I'm still intimidated by Smachalope. :chuckle:
I appreciate your response. Yes, most likely all internet service providers (ISP's) are threatened regularly by lawsuits, in most cases I doubt that anyone like Zuckerberg deals with any of it, big companies have lawyers to deal with those issues.
Lawsuit threats come nearly every time someone is defamed on the forum so I've looked into internet defamation quite extensively including an attorney consultation so that I have a very good understanding of the law. Essentially anyone can sue on the basis that damages to their reputation or business have resulted due to slander. The proof of slander is the burden of the accuser, but even if the court rules in favor of the defense (ISP) there are still attorney expenses which can be significant, so I've tried to avoid going to court and I get very tired of having to deal with lawsuit threats caused most often by outspoken internet tough guys who don't have the guts to put their real name with their comments. Thus my new rule, put your full name with your comments and feel free to post away.
There is a significant level of security provided to ISP's by laws enacted by congress. Following that numerous courts have ruled that ISP's (internet service providers) like H-W are not responsible for what publishers (forum members) post on the internet using their service. However, if an ISP is contacted by someone regarding slanderous untruthful comments, and the ISP fails to remove those untruthful comments, and if the plaintiff can prove the comments are false to the court, there have been lawsuits awarded to the plaintiff.
Reviews are a good thing, I read them too about all kinds of things and they sometimes influence my buying decisions. But, the biggest problem is that too often people throw out comments based on hearsay without knowing the real facts or they purposefully say something untruthful to get even because they thought they were wronged, then the next guy says more and pretty soon the whole topic is pretty defamatory and full of speculative remarks and untruths. I don't want to be responsible for member's comments based on hearsay or rumors and I have no way of knowing who is truthful and who is just being a gossiper or troublemaker.
So if members post negative comments or reviews they can include their full name, that will create accountability. Negative comments without a full name will likely be removed depending on the comment. However, if I am threatened and the comments in question may be untruthful, H-W may still have to remove topics or comments to avoid potential litigation. This policy is intended to keep H-W (myself) out of court!
slan·der
ˈslandər
noun
1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
"he is suing the TV network for slander"
verb
1.
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
"they were accused of slandering the head of state"
synonyms: defame (someone's character), blacken someone's name, tell lies about, speak ill/evil of, sully someone's reputation, libel, smear, cast aspersions on, spread scandal about, besmirch, tarnish, taint; malign, traduce, vilify, disparage, denigrate, run down, slur; informalbadmouth, dis, trash; formalderogate
"they were accused of slandering the minister"
li·bel
ˈlībəl
noun
1.
a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
synonyms: defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation, scandalmongering; More
2.
(in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) a plaintiff's written declaration.
verb
1.
defame (someone) by publishing a libel.
"she alleged the magazine had libeled her"
synonyms: defame, malign, slander, blacken someone's name, sully someone's reputation, speak ill/evil of, traduce, smear, cast aspersions on, drag someone's name through the mud, besmirch, tarnish, taint, tell lies about, stain, impugn someone's character/integrity, vilify, denigrate, disparage, run down, stigmatize, discredit, slur; More
2.
(in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) bring a suit against (someone).
I would suggest that they come just as often every time some flimflammer finds out that he/she has been exposed.
The last letter I got from an attorney group in Seattle area last month regarding a questionable person. I've seen the police reports and charges, so I asked the attorneys to please specify the specific untruthful remarks and I would remove them. The attorney replied back that they noted my position and I haven't heard back since, the topic is still on the forum. If they send back a list of what they claim is untruthful and I don't see proof otherwise, I will remove or modify the comments in question.
There's nothing wrong with posting truthful reviews or comments, the problem is that some people just blabber heresay with no regard of the actual truth! :twocents:
Post by: hunter399 on May 31, 2017, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: bearpaw on May 31, 2017, 02:50:12 PM
I'm not being sued am I ,i need know I'm good with my questionable comments from time to time ,bearpaw pm or let me know.thank you.
Not that I know of, but I don't know what remarks you may have made, I haven't been on the forum much the last several months due to busy time of year with outfitting, a graduation, a wedding, other stuff, etc.
Post by: hunter399 on June 01, 2017, 12:23:16 AM
If u don't know ,and I don't know,than I'm not gonna worry about it ,besides you can't sue a poor sob like me anyway :chuckle:I'm not being sued am I ,i need know I'm good with my questionable comments from time to time ,bearpaw pm or let me know.thank you.
Not that I know of, but I don't know what remarks you may have made, I haven't been on the forum much the last several months due to busy time of year with outfitting, a graduation, a wedding, other stuff, etc.
Post by: eliandsky on June 02, 2017, 07:35:21 AM
I don't know about everyone's personal experiences with this guy and don't care. My experience first hand with friends on the site on certain tags and opportunities is they have literally been abused and mistreated by members from hearsay and false accusations and makes me sick.
According to the original post sounds like the guy did nothing wrong in this situation and who knows maybe he's working on getting his clients the best opportunities on animals. Does everyone on here watch the Kardashians or just filling that void for drama?
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Post by: Alchase on June 02, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
I don't know about everyone's personal experiences with this guy and don't care. My experience first hand with friends on the site on certain tags and opportunities is they have literally been abused and mistreated by members from hearsay and false accusations and makes me sick.
Please be specific, you yourself are throwing out blanket statements.
I read the most of your 36 posts, I would like to see where your friends have been mistreated or abused.
Post by: eliandsky on June 02, 2017, 10:27:03 AM
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Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2017, 11:00:34 AM
Post by: Alchase on June 02, 2017, 11:03:42 AM
Well I could be wrong I'm sure I'm wrong but if I'm not mistaken I read through every single post and I don't know if there was one post where anyone had actual first-hand experience with this guy. And maybe my post wasn't clear but the situations I'm talking about have nothing to do with this thread but my point being is you get people behind a computer and start throwing mud it just seems like a negative snowball that is pretty common on this forum. It's all for drama!
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Usually when someone makes a strong accusation like this:
"My experience first hand with friends on the site on certain tags and opportunities is they have literally been abused and mistreated by members from hearsay and false accusations and makes me sick."
It is wise to have supporting information to back your statement up.
Thank you for your clarification.
Post by: KFhunter on June 02, 2017, 11:08:45 AM
PM's aren't public and therefore not subject to libel or slander lawsuits...
carry on
Post by: OutHouse on June 02, 2017, 04:24:07 PM
The person, outfit, that the OP is referring to has been shown to be less than neighborly. It was clear by legal documents as well as time stamped trail cam pics that the actions were shall we say undesirable. Im sorry if you are not aware of the previous thread but it was neither mud slinging nor false statements.
Can you point me to the original thread please?
Post by: teegansdad on June 02, 2017, 04:31:55 PM
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2017, 04:58:44 PM
The person, outfit, that the OP is referring to has been shown to be less than neighborly. It was clear by legal documents as well as time stamped trail cam pics that the actions were shall we say undesirable. Im sorry if you are not aware of the previous thread but it was neither mud slinging nor false statements.
Can you point me to the original thread please?
Sorry, I can not. The thread, I believe, is no longer available. I can say, as it is my opionion, I would not hunt as a client with a certain outfitter nor would i recommend them.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 02, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Post by: Reidus on June 02, 2017, 06:00:11 PM
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1112050195503091&id=492259454148838
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
Post by: tracksoup on June 02, 2017, 06:27:11 PM
this is an interesting article
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1112050195503091&id=492259454148838
About 10 years ago when we bought our house on 65 acres in NE Washington opening day of rifle deer season I noticed a guy hunting on my property when I approached him he identified himself as a police officer and explained he had permission to hunt the property. What he did not know was the property had sold to me. He knew the previous owners name so, I knew it was legit, he politely apologized and exited my property. Just a reminder to everybody that has permission to hunt private land always check in every year. Not only is it polite but could also save you some trouble
Post by: Alchase on June 02, 2017, 06:39:07 PM
Also, I misspoke earlier. The thread I mentioned is alive and well and available. Happy hunting! ;)
So, are you going to leave us hanging like a little bird with his mouth open waiting for a worm?
:dunno:
LOL
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2017, 06:45:05 PM
Some keywords and Google will show you the way! There is also a search function... :chuckle:.
Post by: Reidus on June 02, 2017, 06:49:18 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 02, 2017, 07:54:21 PM
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2017, 08:00:49 PM
Post by: Bob33 on June 02, 2017, 08:31:57 PM
this is an interesting articleInteresting yes, but over a year old. Is there new significance to it?
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1112050195503091&id=492259454148838
Post by: JDHasty on June 02, 2017, 10:00:56 PM
If you can't figure out a name via the FB link good luck figuring out how to send a pm.
It took place within an hour of Portland OR. Anyone with a well trained BT sniffer outer could unwind the mystery and come to your conclusion and unwind the twisted mystery of who it is who has been around the horn with the law a few times lately. Or maybe just have hunted Tillamook OR in the past and thereby know as fact that with which others may be in the dark on.
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
If you can't figure out a name via the FB link good luck figuring out how to send a pm.
It took place within an hour of Portland OR. Anyone with a well trained BT sniffer outer could unwind the mystery and come to your conclusion and unwind the twisted mystery of who it is who has been around the horn with the law a few times lately. Or maybe just have hunted Tillamook OR in the past and thereby know as fact that with which others may be in the dark on.
:chuckle:
Post by: JDHasty on June 02, 2017, 10:54:41 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186949.0.html
Haven't heard much lately about the guy who fancies himself extremely western, like originally from way out west in BT territory, Tillamook OR, but after how he treated a friend of mine who was set up right next to him at a show... It was great to have fun at his expense.
What I really want to know though is: If it was advertised, and it was, that the only surviving "public land" herds, verified and validated by a BT sniffer, that was within "an hour of downtown Portland," wherein anyone can guarantee "100% opportunity rate for trophy Roosevelt’s bulls in the 300 range and trophy Black Tail Deer" known to exist in huntable numbers east of the Pacific Crest Trail, in Washington, therefore living in pine forests and not a rain forest environment, would be "landlocked" behind this property and therefore all "public land" be only available to the guy who bought this property, how could this property not demand twice the asking price? It just doesn't make sense to me.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on June 03, 2017, 06:45:39 AM
I'm not being sued am I ,i need know I'm good with my questionable comments from time to time ,bearpaw pm or let me know.thank you.
Not that I know of, but I don't know what remarks you may have made, I haven't been on the forum much the last several months due to busy time of year with outfitting, a graduation, a wedding, other stuff, etc.
I'm glad you have your priorities straight. :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on June 03, 2017, 06:49:08 AM
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 03, 2017, 06:50:32 AM
That's why Bearpaw has a bunch of overpaid mods to help where we can.:chuckle:
Post by: h20hunter on June 03, 2017, 06:51:19 AM
Not to mention the free hunts.