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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: beav1980 on May 31, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
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Is it me or can u not even see draw not run yet? I don't see special permit section on new site??
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Is it me or can u not even see draw not run yet? I don't see special permit section on new site??
The section is currently offline while they work out some issues.
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u were able to see it a few days ago but they r running mock results and/or drawing processes (I think).
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They removed the Special Hunt link and posted this message.
SPECIAL HUNT MESSAGE
The 2017 Special Hunt drawing has NOT yet occurred. The drawing will be completed before July 1, 2017. As we prepare for the Special Hunt drawing, the Special Hunt link has been disabled within your WILD account. Once the drawing has been completed, the link will become available for you to review the results. If you are selected for a Special Hunt, you will be contacted via the email address in your WILD account.
I guess you could look at your points and if something drops to zero it would indicate you were selected. Most likely those will not change until the draw anyway. Have fun waiting!
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The rumor I heard was that my son and I were drawn for everything we put in for and they are investigating how that could have happened without tampering. I think it was just luck!!! :-)
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They removed the Special Hunt link and posted this message.
SPECIAL HUNT MESSAGE
The 2017 Special Hunt drawing has NOT yet occurred. The drawing will be completed before July 1, 2017. As we prepare for the Special Hunt drawing, the Special Hunt link has been disabled within your WILD account. Once the drawing has been completed, the link will become available for you to review the results. If you are selected for a Special Hunt, you will be contacted via the email address in your WILD account.[/
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I guess you could look at your points and if something drops to zero it would indicate you were selected. Most likely those will not change until the draw anyway. Have fun waiting!
I agree. I believe the new site has new many bells and whistles. Haven said that, I'm pretty sure the backdoor method of checking early results is a thing of the past. I think that's a pretty good thing👍
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Patience people... the new and improved system is now making you wait until July for results! Lol. I find this absolutely hilarious. No more backdoor and just wait another month.
I did hear you're more likely to draw OIL's as a group with the new system though.
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I wonder if it has something to do with the bear sprimg draw process and they are disabling it so that cant happen again
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I wonder if it has something to do with the bear sprimg draw process and they are disabling it so that cant happen again
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I would assume that's the case. Make sure they got it right before someone has a chance to see the results.
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Patience people... the new and improved system is now making you wait until July for results! Lol. I find this absolutely hilarious. No more backdoor and just wait another month.
I did hear you're more likely to draw OIL's as a group with the new system though.
Remember when you had to wait for them to come in the mail. When they went to the computer/online system I could see a tag I was drawn for in 2007 and never received the card in the mail had no idea.
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They removed the Special Hunt link and posted this message.
SPECIAL HUNT MESSAGE
The 2017 Special Hunt drawing has NOT yet occurred. The drawing will be completed before July 1, 2017. As we prepare for the Special Hunt drawing, the Special Hunt link has been disabled within your WILD account. Once the drawing has been completed, the link will become available for you to review the results. If you are selected for a Special Hunt, you will be contacted via the email address in your WILD account.
I guess you could look at your points and if something drops to zero it would indicate you were selected. Most likely those will not change until the draw anyway. Have fun waiting!
Great.... not only is there no backdoor that we know of, we're also going to have to change our acronym DNRY to "DHNYO"!!!! the nerve of this game department.....
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
Yeah I would like to know what the process is and why it takes so long
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
Yeah I would like to know what the process is and why it takes so long
In the government I've seen getting a yes or no answer to a simple question take two years. Boggles the mind !
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It takes them awhile to figure out the "nephew, brother in law, cousin deals" before the leftover "draw" starts.. ;)
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
Yeah I would like to know what the process is and why it takes so long
In the government I've seen getting a yes or no answer to a simple question take two years. Boggles the mind !
:yeah:
X10 Wholy Guacamole it can be very frustrating at times
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It says before July 1st which is by the end of June in different word just like its always been. It could take to the end of june and it could be around the usual time.
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It says before July 1st which is by the end of June in different word just like its always been. It could take to the end of june and it could be around the usual time.
^This. I think they are just covering their butts in case there is an issue with the drawing/results and they need the extra time to correct it without being bombarded by angry applicants. I'm expecting results in the next 2 weeks, similar to years past.
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I did hear you're more likely to draw OIL's as a group with the new system though.
Absolutely!
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
I think what takes the longest is that they make sure everyone who bought an application but didn't submit before the deadline gets their applications submitted. I don't agree that they should be doing that, but I've heard in the past that they do. This year they did give one extra day to submit applications, but I'm guessing anyone who had purchased an application and still was unable to get it submitted for whatever reason, would be allowed to submit after the extended deadline. There are also those every year who wait until the last night to buy a hunting license and special permit applications for their child who just completed a hunter education course, and don't realize that a first time hunter cannot purchase a hunting license online, it must be done at a license dealer so they can verify that person's hunter education certificate. I'm sure there are plenty of other exceptions as well, to the application deadline.
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Basically what he is saying it's all about the mighty dollar for the state. That is all they have in their vision.
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If WDFW ran Presidential elections the results would come out around Chruatmas.
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Basically what he is saying it's all about the mighty dollar for the state. That is all they have in their vision.
No doubt that's the case. It become very apparent several years ago when they changed the permit system from one category per species to 6 or 7 categories, at least for deer and elk. Made it much more complex and confusing, and just plain worse, while costing us hunters more money.
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
I think what takes the longest is that they make sure everyone who bought an application but didn't submit before the deadline gets their applications submitted. I don't agree that they should be doing that, but I've heard in the past that they do. This year they did give one extra day to submit applications, but I'm guessing anyone who had purchased an application and still was unable to get it submitted for whatever reason, would be allowed to submit after the extended deadline. There are also those every year who wait until the last night to buy a hunting license and special permit applications for their child who just completed a hunter education course, and don't realize that a first time hunter cannot purchase a hunting license online, it must be done at a license dealer so they can verify that person's hunter education certificate. I'm sure there are plenty of other exceptions as well, to the application deadline.
This is true, also the department has to go through all the applicants to make sure points are taken away if drawn and remain if not. Last minute applicants do delay the process. The new system, it sounds like, will be more efficient though.
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
I think what takes the longest is that they make sure everyone who bought an application but didn't submit before the deadline gets their applications submitted. I don't agree that they should be doing that, but I've heard in the past that they do. This year they did give one extra day to submit applications, but I'm guessing anyone who had purchased an application and still was unable to get it submitted for whatever reason, would be allowed to submit after the extended deadline. There are also those every year who wait until the last night to buy a hunting license and special permit applications for their child who just completed a hunter education course, and don't realize that a first time hunter cannot purchase a hunting license online, it must be done at a license dealer so they can verify that person's hunter education certificate. I'm sure there are plenty of other exceptions as well, to the application deadline.
This is true, also the department has to go through all the applicants to make sure points are taken away if drawn and remain if not. Last minute applicants do delay the process. The new system, it sounds like, will be more efficient though.
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Since it will be more efficient perhaps they will can some of the two legged inefficients that roam the halls and breakrooms.
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
I think what takes the longest is that they make sure everyone who bought an application but didn't submit before the deadline gets their applications submitted. I don't agree that they should be doing that, but I've heard in the past that they do. This year they did give one extra day to submit applications, but I'm guessing anyone who had purchased an application and still was unable to get it submitted for whatever reason, would be allowed to submit after the extended deadline. There are also those every year who wait until the last night to buy a hunting license and special permit applications for their child who just completed a hunter education course, and don't realize that a first time hunter cannot purchase a hunting license online, it must be done at a license dealer so they can verify that person's hunter education certificate. I'm sure there are plenty of other exceptions as well, to the application deadline.
This is true, also the department has to go through all the applicants to make sure points are taken away if drawn and remain if not. Last minute applicants do delay the process. The new system, it sounds like, will be more efficient though.
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A very simple computer program could manage all of the points in the entire system in mere nano-seconds. Hopefully, they are not still doing this task by hand.
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
I think what takes the longest is that they make sure everyone who bought an application but didn't submit before the deadline gets their applications submitted. I don't agree that they should be doing that, but I've heard in the past that they do. This year they did give one extra day to submit applications, but I'm guessing anyone who had purchased an application and still was unable to get it submitted for whatever reason, would be allowed to submit after the extended deadline. There are also those every year who wait until the last night to buy a hunting license and special permit applications for their child who just completed a hunter education course, and don't realize that a first time hunter cannot purchase a hunting license online, it must be done at a license dealer so they can verify that person's hunter education certificate. I'm sure there are plenty of other exceptions as well, to the application deadline.
This is true, also the department has to go through all the applicants to make sure points are taken away if drawn and remain if not. Last minute applicants do delay the process. The new system, it sounds like, will be more efficient though.
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A very simple computer program could manage all of the points in the entire system in mere nano-seconds. Hopefully, they are not still doing this task by hand.
True, but the department doesn't run the draw, the new vendor this year is based out of Baltimore, I am not sure of the name. So our department needs to make sure the draw is correct after that vendor runs it.
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I just don't understand how in this day and age they can't be done within a few days of permit submission cutoff.
I think what takes the longest is that they make sure everyone who bought an application but didn't submit before the deadline gets their applications submitted. I don't agree that they should be doing that, but I've heard in the past that they do. This year they did give one extra day to submit applications, but I'm guessing anyone who had purchased an application and still was unable to get it submitted for whatever reason, would be allowed to submit after the extended deadline. There are also those every year who wait until the last night to buy a hunting license and special permit applications for their child who just completed a hunter education course, and don't realize that a first time hunter cannot purchase a hunting license online, it must be done at a license dealer so they can verify that person's hunter education certificate. I'm sure there are plenty of other exceptions as well, to the application deadline.
This is true, also the department has to go through all the applicants to make sure points are taken away if drawn and remain if not. Last minute applicants do delay the process. The new system, it sounds like, will be more efficient though.
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A very simple computer program could manage all of the points in the entire system in mere nano-seconds. Hopefully, they are not still doing this task by hand.
I've been saying this. Theres no reason the draw can't run at 12:00:01am and results be posted by 12:10:00am and thats being generous.
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No one works at 12:10 AM when you have the rest of the day to push the button
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My second deer points went down to 0 as of 6/7/2017 and it is still 6/6 :dunno:
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did u apply for second deer?
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did u apply for second deer?
ya
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Its 6/7/17 on the east coast(baltimore) which is where it was mentioned the draw was taking place. Some of my points were updated on 6/7 as well.
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Its 6/7/17 on the east coast(baltimore) which is where it was mentioned the draw was taking place. Some of my points were updated on 6/7 as well.
:yeah:
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I had some updated today too
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I've noticed activity on the WDFW website in the past; it was always right at 1 month before the actual results were posted.
Buy your sparklers.
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My second deer points went down to 0 as of 6/7/2017 and it is still 6/6 :dunno:
Did you have any points in the second deer category? Any category with 0 points is getting updated daily. I too have 0 pts in my 2nd deer and I too applied for 2nd deer and I too have seen that category getting updated daily. The big difference is if you had any points at the time of submitting your permit application. :tup: It seems we have to try and figure the quirks of this new system all over again :bash:
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:chuckle:
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I cant get in to check my points. tried the wildthing deal, no go. mike w
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I've noticed activity on the WDFW website in the past; it was always right at 1 month before the actual results were posted.
Buy your sparklers.
:chuckle:
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The system failed and all points were lost. No system backup. Sorry guys but it's a "start over".
lol
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The system failed and all points were lost. No system backup. Sorry guys but it's a "start over".
lol
Can you imagine, oh boy.
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The system failed and all points were lost. No system backup. Sorry guys but it's a "start over".
lol
Can you imagine, oh boy.
I have a good amount of points but wouldn't mind if this happened if it meant we went to a system like Idaho with no points. :tup:
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My second deer points went down to 0 as of 6/7/2017 and it is still 6/6 :dunno:
Did you have any points in the second deer category? Any category with 0 points is getting updated daily. I too have 0 pts in my 2nd deer and I too applied for 2nd deer and I too have seen that category getting updated daily. The big difference is if you had any points at the time of submitting your permit application. :tup: It seems we have to try and figure the quirks of this new system all over again :bash:
Now that you mention it, I did get drawn last year so I would have had zero points. All categories with zero points are updated as of 6/7. I thought it was a sign that the draw was coming, but I guess not. On a positive note, I hope to draw something better than second deer anyway.
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i cant even get logged back in, and the password reset isnt working :bash:
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i cant even get logged back in, and the password reset isnt working :bash:
Why are you trying to log in? Do you think you're going to find some secret portal to the draw results?
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i cant even get logged back in, and the password reset isnt working :bash:
Why are you trying to log in? Do you think you're going to find some secret portal to the draw results?
actually i was making sure everything was hunky dory to get logged in when they came out and wouldn't you know it :dunno: i never look to see if they're posted thats what i have this site for lol
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I just logged in and checked my points, everything was the same.
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I just logged in and checked my points, everything was the same.
Sorry about your luck. At least you'll have points going into next year.
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I have emailed WDFW repetitively asking for results...
I just received the below picture in their latest email response.
Buy your sparklers.
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why don't they start the whole process 2-3 months earlier like other states. that way vacations and time off can be planned. if it cant be done hire people who can. to my knowledge Washington is the latest state to draw. some states start in jan or feb. mike w
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why don't they start the whole process 2-3 months earlier like other states. that way vacations and time off can be planned. if it cant be done hire people who can. to my knowledge Washington is the latest state to draw. some states start in jan or feb. mike w
Vermont moose has WA beat...Their deadline to apply is July 3rd. Try planning time off for that one. :o
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Idaho's application deadline was just two days ago. Wyoming was May 31st. Oregon's deadline was May 15th. Results for those three states are not available yet. Washington is certainly not the latest state to draw.
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Idaho's application deadline was just two days ago. Wyoming was May 31st. Oregon's deadline was May 15th. Results for those three states are not available yet. Washington is certainly not the latest state to draw.
At least WY gives a draw date and sticks to it.
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Idaho's application deadline was just two days ago. Wyoming was May 31st. Oregon's deadline was May 15th. Results for those three states are not available yet. Washington is certainly not the latest state to draw.
At least WY gives a draw date and sticks to it.
Washington doesn't give a specific date but has always said "by the end of June." Usually results have been out a couple weeks sooner than that. I'd rather they post results as soon as possible, rather than just saying the results WILL BE POSTED JUNE 30. Because that would be the other option if they were to give a specific date.
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Idaho's application deadline was just two days ago. Wyoming was May 31st. Oregon's deadline was May 15th. Results for those three states are not available yet. Washington is certainly not the latest state to draw.
At least WY gives a draw date and sticks to it.
Washington doesn't give a specific date but has always said "by the end of June." Usually results have been out a couple weeks sooner than that. I'd rather they post results as soon as possible, rather than just saying the results WILL BE POSTED JUNE 30. Because that would be the other option if they were to give a specific date.
I think they just love watching everyone try to log in every hour from the beginning of June until the draw.
Hopefully they post results at 11:59pm on June 30th and not a minute earlier.
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We are all only gonna draw made up tags anyways. I hope I get that western badger tag I've been waiting 22 years and have mac points. But they keep decreasing the permits by 20% a year.... three more years and the tag will be gone.
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How about my lynx,wolf,and bald eagle permit ,give me a break .Making up permits is just silly. :chuckle:
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I have emailed WDFW repetitively asking for results...
I just received the below picture in their latest email response.
Buy your sparklers.
Same here......They emailed me back with this.
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Sooooooooo don't expect backdoor access. Today or on the 4th of July or whatever day.
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points are points, no matter if they are June 15th or July 15th....kinda takes the excitement out of it....oh they did that a long time ago. LOL
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Sooooooooo don't expect backdoor access.
Correct - damn marriage.
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So apparently Huntinfool.com is reporting Monday the 12th for Wa results. This is second hand info to me so believe it if you want. Keep your hopes and dreams alive through the weekend then have them shattered to start your work week!
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If im not mistaken, results were out june 10th or so last year. I keep seeing people get up in arms and its pretty funny. The average time (may 24ish to mid june) is by far the fastest turnaround of all the states i do. (Ore,wy,nev,utah,colorado).
In fact, utah takes like 2 months. Colorado is like 6 weeks.
Every year it is the same thing. Remember, it is most likely that it will be done by june 15th. Not july....
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I can say that there are witnesses to the permit draws and they haven't been notified of the date yet.
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I think they meant July 12th.
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I can say that there are witnesses to the permit draws and they haven't been notified of the date yet.
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Is it weird the witnesses draw their share of tags..... lol. :tinfoil:
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I can say that there are witnesses to the permit draws and they haven't been notified of the date yet.
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Is it weird the witnesses draw their share of tags..... lol. :tinfoil:
I wish that were the case, I was in there twice and got skunked both times😳
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I can say that there are witnesses to the permit draws and they haven't been notified of the date yet.
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Is it weird the witnesses draw their share of tags..... lol. :tinfoil:
Fairly safe to assume the witness I know may not even possess a hunting license.
I know of another skunked witness too.
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That's good to know. (seriously)
Remember the "inside job" that was uncovered in the Oregon draw?
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Still got all my points, but that doesn't say much.
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That's good to know. (seriously)
Remember the "inside job" that was uncovered in the Oregon draw?
Got a link to a story? Never heard about this!
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That's good to know. (seriously)
Remember the "inside job" that was uncovered in the Oregon draw?
Got a link to a story? Never heard about this!
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http://blog.eastmans.com/have-you-fired-your-last-shot-anti-hunters-running-the-show/
Seen a comment at the bottom that said to check the bighorn results in Oregon to see it's rigged...
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Interesting article.
Not the one I wass referencing.
I can try to find a link later.
Short version: some senior folkls with Oregon Fish and Wildlife (or whatever they're called) gamed the point system real bad with insider info. It was cheating, plain and simple.
Cheaters. >:(
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I have emailed WDFW repetitively asking for results...
I just received the below picture in their latest email response.
Buy your sparklers.
Same here......They emailed me back with this.
perfect. Headed to Idaho for the week f the 4th. Close enough to do some moose scouting when I find out I draw. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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The Oregon issue was with the insiders getting the information of a hunt being cancelled and If people put in for that hunt as their first choice and put in for what they really wanted as their second choice they were able to draw what basically amounted to their first choice and still be able to keep their points and gain another. The other issue in Oregon that went on for years was the percentage of sheep tags given to non-residents. For years it was less than the percentage outlined in their administrative codes. I called multiple times every year and rarely got the same answer twice. Once they told me that the raffle tags counted as non-resident. I replied that that was awesome knowing my odds of a raffle tag was so much better being residents were ineligible, it was completely silent on the other end of the phone then. I think they got tired of the calls because last I checked they were at least hitting the minimum on the non-resident quota.
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The system alert is gone.. active license tab is up...
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The system alert is gone.. active license tab is up...
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Active license tab was always up, I think. The one that's missing is the special hunts tab.
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The system alert is gone.. active license tab is up...
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Active license tab was always up, I think. The one that's missing is the special hunts tab.
I hadnt been seeing the active license tab. Dont ruin the little excitement in my day.. lol
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The system alert is gone.. active license tab is up...
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Active license tab was always up, I think. The one that's missing is the special hunts tab.
I hadnt been seeing the active license tab. Dont ruin the little excitement in my day.. lol
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I assumed you were talking about this one.
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That one is not there anymore.
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how long will it take to unmemorize my wild id number? mike w
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why don't they start the whole process 2-3 months earlier like other states. that way vacations and time off can be planned. if it cant be done hire people who can. to my knowledge Washington is the latest state to draw. some states start in jan or feb. mike w
Vermont moose has WA beat...Their deadline to apply is July 3rd. Try planning time off for that one. :o
You mean I still have time? :o Hope the loser lounge doesn't flood their system. :chuckle:
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I like the way Maine does their Moose drawing. A specific date is made and they have all kinds of activities going on and it's in a different town every year from what I read online. When they do the draw they actually call out the names. Makes it more exciting in my opinion.
Doing it that way for all WA permits would take days but it's a cool tradition they have going.
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You can no longer look at your amount of points as it has been disabled here within last few minutes...
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You can no longer look at your amount of points as it has been disabled here within last few minutes...
I thought that happened when they removed the special permits link?
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You can no longer look at your amount of points as it has been disabled here within last few minutes...
I thought that happened when they removed the special permits link?
Negative. I could still view my points after the special permits link was disabled. My points link just disappeared when I checked it about a half hour ago. I viewed my points as recently as this morning.
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We're getting close guys and gals because my "view points" option is gone as well! I get a kick out of this every year, if you think about it, about 95% of us get over the moon impatient/excited just to see NOT SELECTED lol Theres always next year and a long slow 12 months ticks by again :chuckle: hope not!!
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I wonder if they've been getting calls, asking when the draw is? ;)
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This is pretty much Christmas Eve for Hunters!! lol :chuckle:
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I would prefer not to end up with a lump of coal!
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Christmas Eve where 99% of the applicants get squat. Christmas Nightmare for most.
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I wonder if they've been getting calls, asking when the draw is? ;)
I saw that message at least a few days ago...maybe a week ago.
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I wonder if they've been getting calls, asking when the draw is? ;)
I saw that message at least a few days ago...maybe a week ago.
It was gone for several days, and is back now.
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Tick tock
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Did you hear that??????
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Its 230 am system alert / special permits is gone today is the day :tup:
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nothing yet...
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LOL... Yup Nothing yet
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Special alert is gone but still no point section
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I have 3 email notifications that the draw has been done. But there is still no special hunts or points tab on my profile! :bash:
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I have 3 email notifications that the draw has been done. But there is still no special hunts or points tab on my profile! :bash:
Same here. I have an email for second deer and my wife has one for cow elk. We can not figure out to access the site.
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same thing. would they notify u if u don't draw? mike w
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I don't have a single email so that does not sound good
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I got an email for 2nd deer draw results and another one saying all draws are published.
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check active license tab, I got drawn for a 2nd deer tag
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same thing. would they notify u if u don't draw? mike w
i got antlerless elk and I did points on that one. Also got second deer.
I'm sure kinks to work out.
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Got notification emails for antlerless elk and second deer, but it doesn't look like they've updated the website to include the "special permit results" option in the left navigation bar.
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Got email for quality elk.
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how does WDFW manage to not get all the bugs out before rolling this out
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Link is now active
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Got notification emails for antlerless elk and second deer, but it doesn't look like they've updated the website to include the "special permit results" option in the left navigation bar.
Click on active licenses , then on the left of the screen there should be permit results.
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All of my results show except Ram???
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# 1 2222 | Colockum Selected :tup:
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Got selected again for fall turkey in the Teanaway.
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Selected for Blue Mtns East :tup: