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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: LDennis24 on June 01, 2017, 08:46:02 AM

Title: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: LDennis24 on June 01, 2017, 08:46:02 AM: What does everyone think of the possibility of this year being a bad one for blue tongue? There's a lot if stagnant water all over from this spring still and I'm guessing some of it will harbor disease this summer.
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: tracksoup on June 01, 2017, 08:58:44 AM: Their is a lot of moving water also. I think it will be ok this year with the snow pack we got.
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: Mfowl on June 01, 2017, 09:00:34 AM: I thought blue tongue happened in drought conditions when the little remaining water becomes contaminated. But I'm no expert by any means.
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: tracksoup on June 01, 2017, 09:01:58 AM: :yeah:
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: LDennis24 on June 01, 2017, 09:43:16 AM: It's anywhere that there's stagnant water for the gnats to lay eggs in. If you have moving water nearby then it won't hurt the deer as they are smart enough to drink cleaner moving water most of the time. But in some areas like Cheney you have ALOT if standing water that becomes algae filled and full of larvae by the end of summer.
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 01, 2017, 09:59:49 AM: The Culicoides gnat that transmits hemorrhagic disease in big game requires warm, fecal-contaminated water for breeding. Big die-offs occur when deer are concentrated near water by late summer drought, in search of green forage. Spring conditions don't readily indicate how pervasive those conditions will be in August-September, unfortunately, so there is no good way to predict the severity before seasons are set.
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: jackelope on June 01, 2017, 10:10:00 AM: Quote from: DOUBLELUNG on June 01, 2017, 09:59:49 AM
The Culicoides gnat that transmits hemorrhagic disease in big game requires warm, fecal-contaminated water for breeding. Big die-offs occur when deer are concentrated near water by late summer drought, in search of green forage. Spring conditions don't readily indicate how pervasive those conditions will be in August-September, unfortunately, so there is no good way to predict the severity before seasons are set.

Thanks for sharing your expertise, sir.
:tup:
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 01, 2017, 10:29:24 AM: Quote from: jackelope on June 01, 2017, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: DOUBLELUNG on June 01, 2017, 09:59:49 AM
The Culicoides gnat that transmits hemorrhagic disease in big game requires warm, fecal-contaminated water for breeding. Big die-offs occur when deer are concentrated near water by late summer drought, in search of green forage. Spring conditions don't readily indicate how pervasive those conditions will be in August-September, unfortunately, so there is no good way to predict the severity before seasons are set.

Thanks for sharing your expertise, sir.
:tup:

You're very kind. I'm not an expert but was fortunate enough to study under one of the top wildlife diseases specialists in the U.S., Dr. Elizabeth Williams at the University of Wyoming, and to work with top notch wildlife vets and pathologists.
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: jackelope on June 01, 2017, 10:39:20 AM: Call it what you want. You're a lot more an expert than most of the rest of us.
:tup:
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: elkboy on June 01, 2017, 11:05:05 AM: Doublelung is right that we can't predict late summer conditions at this point! However, I am truly hopeful with the abundant snow and rainfall this year, and the generally cooler temperatures, that we can avoid repetition of the 2015 bluetongue outbreak...
Title: Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
Post by: brew on June 11, 2017, 04:19:09 PM: do blacktails get this disease ? i saw 2 does last year that had these symptoms...swollen tongue hanging out of their mouths-not just sticking out but hanging down about 4"...both were within a mile of each other so don't know it could have been the same deer but the timeframe was 3 months apart