Post by: Smossy on June 05, 2017, 12:35:53 AM
I currently have a 2002 Ford F150 v6 4.2l short bed reguler cab 2 wheel drive.
Setups pretty muuch stock atm. Looking to add a few more ponies to it and increase general reliability for the dirt roads when hunting. This truck is a 5 speed manual. First thing I plan on doing is doing the GOTTS mod for the intake being as I've heard it us bed results than any air intake ad only runs about 20$.
Anyone ever try performance chips?
Also would it be smart to add a rear locker to the back tires?
Post by: dreadi on June 05, 2017, 01:10:54 AM
Post by: Smossy on June 05, 2017, 01:34:20 AM
How about just selling it at getting an F-150 Ecoboost?Why would I sell an f150 to buy an f150. If I was gonna just sell I'd buy a chevy.
Post by: elkaholic123 on June 05, 2017, 04:25:04 AM
Post by: Miles on June 05, 2017, 05:03:07 AM
How about just selling it at getting an F-150 Ecoboost?Why would I sell an f1x50 to buy an f150. If I was gonna just sell I'd buy a chevy.
Lol. Good answer.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 05, 2017, 05:10:17 AM
Post by: quadrafire on June 05, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
Post by: Dan-o on June 05, 2017, 08:04:03 AM
Post by: jackelope on June 05, 2017, 08:14:35 AM
@jackalope
It's @jackelope
I spelled it wrong a long time ago and never fixed it. My bad.
I don't know anything about performance stuff. Pretty much only do stock stuff.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 05, 2017, 08:19:17 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on June 05, 2017, 08:21:31 AM
Performance upgrades on4.2 v-6 isa Ford is a lot like polishing a turd. Way more bang for the buck to be had other places.
Fixed it for you, Woodchuck.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 05, 2017, 08:28:30 AM
I don't know about all that, I drive a Ford from time to time that gets on down the road pretty good. 8)Performance upgrades on4.2 v-6 isa Ford is a lot like polishing a turd. Way more bang for the buck to be had other places.
Fixed it for you, Woodchuck.
Post by: Timberstalker on June 05, 2017, 08:30:55 AM
I don't know about all that, I drive a Ford from time to time that gets on down the road pretty good. 8)Performance upgrades on4.2 v-6 isa Ford is a lot like polishing a turd. Way more bang for the buck to be had other places.
Fixed it for you, Woodchuck.
Out of respect for the OP, I'll leave it alone..... ;)
Post by: timberfaller on June 05, 2017, 09:06:58 AM
Ford's better "idea" was to make them so you have to take them back to a dealer for, what used to be simple maintenance you could do in your back yard.
But that is true of all of them now.
My best 4x4's were a 73 and 75(thats 1973)Chev 3/4 ton 4x4. My rig at present that I use in the hills, 92 Jeep.
I don't think you'll get much "power" increase out of a 4.2 unless you have a "mechanic" to rebuild it and find a place that sell 110 octane gas.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 05, 2017, 09:08:23 AM
Post by: kck6894 on June 05, 2017, 09:26:01 AM
BUT!!!
Sell your truck. Buy something else. The 4.2's in those trucks were HORRIBLE engines!!
They didn't live well in stock form and if it does go out you're going to just scrap the truck.
So save yourself some time, money and headaches and sell it..............even if that means you're going to buy a Chevy :bash:
Post by: Skillet on June 05, 2017, 09:50:21 AM
:twocents:
Post by: Crunchy on June 05, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Post by: Mudman on June 05, 2017, 10:35:25 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on June 05, 2017, 10:39:30 AM
Depending on your budget, maybe consider dropping down to a lower ratio to better take advantage of what power you do have? If the ratio is a fairly high one for hiway driving and max mileage, a lower ratio will make it feel more snappy at lower speeds like you experience driving in the woods.
The trade off is if you go too low, it won't be fun to drive at highway speeds as the motor will be running at higher RPM's, and mileage will go down.
Usually can meet in the middle with a ratio that helps out at the lower speeds, and your tranny's overdrive helps out on the top end.
Post by: jackelope on June 05, 2017, 11:00:10 AM
I've owned numerous 4x4's over my life time and for good reasons. That said, my 02 Ford 4x4 SuperCrew is to date the Worse 4x4 I've ever owned.
Ford's better "idea" was to make them so you have to take them back to a dealer for, what used to be simple maintenance you could do in your back yard.
But that is true of all of them now.
My best 4x4's were a 73 and 75(thats 1973)Chev 3/4 ton 4x4. My rig at present that I use in the hills, 92 Jeep.
I don't think you'll get much "power" increase out of a 4.2 unless you have a "mechanic" to rebuild it and find a place that sell 110 octane gas.
Curious to know what maintenance on a 2002 F150 you can't do yourself due to Ford's engineering?
Post by: Happy Gilmore on June 05, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
That being said, want more power you are 10X better off getting an older F-150 with a 302 or a 351 and slap headers and a four barrel carb on it. You won't find much in the way of performance for a 4.2L. Spending money on a few HP here and there is a waste. If you're on gravel and back roads, what do you need more power for anyways? putting around with a silent little V-6 not making a bunch of noise isn't a bad thing.
Post by: dog on June 05, 2017, 11:43:41 AM
Post by: JDHasty on June 05, 2017, 11:51:27 AM
Resist the temptation to mod this truck. It is what it is - a form of inexpensive, reliable transportation. Anything you do to it beyond a religious maintenance schedule is going to reduce its reliability and economy. If there's nothing wrong with it at all as is, don't go spending money making trouble for yourself with this rig.:yeah:
:twocents:
You may be able to find a limited slip rear axle assy out of an FX4 and put new clutches in it and brakes on it and other than that I wouldn't mess with it.
Post by: follow maggie on June 05, 2017, 03:45:50 PM
Post by: Smossy on June 05, 2017, 04:05:25 PM
Post by: Smossy on June 05, 2017, 07:40:21 PM
Post by: Mudman on June 05, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
Post by: syoungs on June 05, 2017, 07:47:13 PM
I'd be careful with a diesel, they can get expensive, really fast.
Post by: Timberstalker on June 05, 2017, 07:47:36 PM
Post by: syoungs on June 05, 2017, 07:54:10 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on June 05, 2017, 07:58:39 PM
Buy this rig Smossy.
Post by: Smossy on June 05, 2017, 08:53:30 PM
Post by: follow maggie on June 05, 2017, 09:02:01 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on June 05, 2017, 09:25:19 PM
Mudman hit it. Tacoma or a Cummins.
Not sure there's that kind of profit available from selling a two wheel drive short bed v-6 F-150...
Post by: 270Shooter on June 05, 2017, 09:33:39 PM
I'd look for a Chevy 1500 with the 5.3 engine, and 4x4. Seems like I see good deals on them, and they are solid trucks (this coming from a Ford nut)hes right, I'm a ford guy but I drive an 06 Chevy with the 5.3 everyday for work. I've put 59k on it myself and only replaced wheel bearings and did the brakes. It is a really solid engine. The interior of the truck is cheap but I just use it for work so I don't really care.
I'd be careful with a diesel, they can get expensive, really fast.
Post by: Timberstalker on June 05, 2017, 09:40:06 PM
Mudman hit it. Tacoma or a Cummins.
Not sure there's that kind of profit available from selling a two wheel drive short bed v-6 F-150...
Any recommendations on what truck to go after? Not really looking into anything new or expensive. Maybe 10k tops for now.
Read this post Happy.
Post by: coachcw on June 05, 2017, 09:53:57 PM
Post by: Buzz2401 on June 06, 2017, 04:32:41 PM
I'd look for a Chevy 1500 with the 5.3 engine, and 4x4. Seems like I see good deals on them, and they are solid trucks (this coming from a Ford nut)
I'd be careful with a diesel, they can get expensive, really fast.
I'd second that. These are good affordable trucks. A little older are pretty good also but they are getting hard to find in decent shape. The 5.3l motor is a great motor, not great for towing heavy loads but for general half-ton stuff its pretty hard to beat.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 06, 2017, 04:39:20 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,213885.0/topicseen.htmlSolid advice here.
Buy this rig Smossy.
Post by: Alchase on June 06, 2017, 06:42:03 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,213885.0/topicseen.htmlSolid advice here.
Buy this rig Smossy.
That might get him a better 2001 vehicle, but it won't get him more power as Smossy was looking for.
Smossy moving up to a V8 is the only way to get efficient power out of a pickup of the 2000 or 2001 year range.
I would look for a decent 1500 Ram or Chev, (OK I will include Ford F150 as well) in the price range you want.
If you are solid in your 10 grand price range, two wheel drives would be substantially more affordable than 4x4.
Post by: Mudman on June 06, 2017, 06:52:58 PM
Post by: Alchase on June 06, 2017, 06:58:25 PM
Ford engine 5.4 is weak and gets crappy mpg. I'm not a chev guy but the small v-8 are the best in that era. The little chev gets decent mpg, 17-20 if I remember right. 5.3 is good one too. Hemi gets 13-17 but is much stronger. Smossy for 10k you can find a good rig.
To add to Mudman's
If looking at a Ram, stay clear of the 4.7 if you can and go with the 5.9. I had two 4.7s, one in a 2002 Ram and another in a 2001 Durango. The 4.7 my be just fine up to around 200k, then it starts to where out quick.
Post by: jackelope on June 06, 2017, 06:58:54 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on June 07, 2017, 10:53:31 AM
Mudman hit it. Tacoma or a Cummins.
Not sure there's that kind of profit available from selling a two wheel drive short bed v-6 F-150...Any recommendations on what truck to go after? Not really looking into anything new or expensive. Maybe 10k tops for now.
Read this post Happy.
for around $10K? Tough to get either in good condition without high range miles at that price range. The half ton Chevy or Ford pick ups probably offer better chances. Especially, if you look at the two wheel drive market.
Post by: kball4 on June 07, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on June 07, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Mudman hit it. Tacoma or a Cummins.
Not sure there's that kind of profit available from selling a two wheel drive short bed v-6 F-150...Any recommendations on what truck to go after? Not really looking into anything new or expensive. Maybe 10k tops for now.
Read this post Happy.
for around $10K? Tough to get either in good condition without high range miles at that price range. The half ton Chevy or Ford pick ups probably offer better chances. Especially, if you look at the two wheel drive market.
Doesn't look too tough.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,213885.0/topicseen.html
Post by: JohnVH on June 07, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
Post by: lamrith on June 07, 2017, 12:18:06 PM
go ecobeast!There fixed it for you..
Smossy - joking aside, you gotta go try an F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. The 3.5Eco motor will surprise you. More power than the 5.4V8 for has with better mileage. These new motors are just great right out of the box and only get better with a tune. I bought a 2013 SHO with one a few months back, quick and powerful stock, dropped <$1k for mods and gained at least 1/2 again more power. Programmer, colder plugs, and a tune was all it takes. Might be tough on budget, but worth a look imho.
Post by: jackelope on June 07, 2017, 12:19:38 PM
go ecobeast!There fixed it for you..
Smossy - joking aside, you gotta go try an F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. The 3.5Eco motor will surprise you. More power than the 5.4V8 for has with better mileage. These new motors are just great right out of the box and only get better with a tune. I bought a 2013 SHO with one a few months back, quick and powerful stock, dropped <$1k for mods and gained at least 1/2 again more power. Programmer, colder plugs, and a tune was all it takes. Might be tough on budget, but worth a look imho.
If his price range is below $10k, he won't be buying any Ecoboosts anytime soon.
Post by: JohnVH on June 07, 2017, 12:22:36 PM
If his price range is below $10k, he won't be buying any Ecoboosts anytime soon.
true story :'(
Post by: Smossy on June 07, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
Post by: Mudman on June 07, 2017, 01:59:02 PM
Post by: Alchase on June 07, 2017, 02:11:51 PM
2010 Ford F-150/ F150 XLT SuperCrew Cab 4x4
https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/6166609664.html
2007 Titan
https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/6166608256.html
2010 Escolade
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6143536434.html
2002 ford f250 super duty
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6166322065.html
This
2006 Dodge Ram 4x4 SLT Quad Cab 5.7L
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/6166265734.html
just a few, LOL
There are also a couple diesels in that price range (around 200,000 k mile range) Others who know diesels better can chime in on what a good diesel is.
Post by: Mudman on June 07, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
Post by: Smossy on June 07, 2017, 02:31:31 PM
Ford is good truck but trans will need rebuilt soon. 4k for good one. My cousin has 500k on his 1999 on its 3rd trans I think?On that 250?
Post by: lamrith on June 07, 2017, 02:38:03 PM
Well aware that they tend to be more, it is why I made the very last statement "tough on budget but worth a look". And the prices are coming down on them, $10k rigs are out there.go ecobeast!There fixed it for you..
Smossy - joking aside, you gotta go try an F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. The 3.5Eco motor will surprise you. More power than the 5.4V8 for has with better mileage. These new motors are just great right out of the box and only get better with a tune. I bought a 2013 SHO with one a few months back, quick and powerful stock, dropped <$1k for mods and gained at least 1/2 again more power. Programmer, colder plugs, and a tune was all it takes. Might be tough on budget, but worth a look imho.
If his price range is below $10k, he won't be buying any Ecoboosts anytime soon.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/ctd/6148209650.html
Setting a budget is awesome. But some times we all need our eyes opened to the options available if we stretch the budget a little. Just trying to give him options based on very positive personal experience with the powerplant and lot of positive feedback from other owners.