Post by: geauxtigers on June 12, 2017, 09:29:58 PM
I've shot a few different times, and no matter how I adjust the sight I'm consistently hitting left of my aiming point. My friend (already a bowhunter) and I did more than just the standard adjustments, I actually adjusted how the sight is mounted to move the entire sight further left. All that and no real change, I'm still hitting left (but in tighter, more consistent groups as I've shot more the past couple weeks). At this point I'm convinced that the way I'm holding the bow or looking through my peep/sight is incorrect and that's causing me to shoot left, no matter how the sight is adjusted.
Two questions:
- Does anyone have suggestions of what I may be doing wrong?
- Is there a good shop/range where a professional could watch me shoot and help dial in the sight. Hopefully they can point out what I'm doing wrong and we can correct it in the process.
Thanks
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 12, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Edit: Are you certain your arrow spine is correct?
Post by: geauxtigers on June 12, 2017, 09:55:43 PM
At the shop he just had me shoot through the paper a couple times, I personally didn't shoot at any target or actual distance.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 12, 2017, 10:03:22 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on June 12, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Behind the jaw, etc.
A problem I have while
Shooting my bow, is that irony like to cover up the target with my pin. I like to be able to see where I am aiming. Practice, practice, practice and you will find what works for you. Just remember that consistency is key while shooting a bow.
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Post by: lamrith on June 13, 2017, 05:49:34 AM
Sounds like torquing a bit to me as well. I have seen (and done) two types of torquing of the bow myself.
- Hand torque - probably the most common. If you look at experienced or pro shooters, many shoot open handed, that is to relax the hand and not hand torque. You don't want to squeeze the grip of the bow, you want the pressure of the bow at full draw to hold it in the meat of your hand. Even open hand you can torque, because you need to do it the same every single time. practice practice practice. I use a hybrid style hold that has helped me be more consistent. I make the "OK" sign with my bow hand. Tip of pointer finger to tip of thumb and I make or round, not pinching grip with my thumb. This makes for an easy to repeat tactile grip as well as more secure grip on bow.
- Arm torquing - this one I still run into problems with time to time. I will get into shooting position and when I come up I am left or right of my intended target. rather than twist at the waist I move my bow arm. I can tell when I have done it right on release as usually my bow will jump left or right on release. This just takes practice and being aware of how you are aiming. Something I am still working on myself at times.
As for setup. I am again new, but I have found it best to setup the bow so it is comfortable to you is important. There are certain base things on stance that we need to maintain, but beyond that setting the bow to work with a natural draw and hold helps. Lot more experienced guys ehre than me but what has worked for me is to draw the bow repeatedly with my eyes closed and settle into a shooting position naturally while at the shop with the tuner. Let them see your draw as well as your natural hold, then hopefully they can set the sights and peep to match it for you as well as give you a few little things to maybe change or adjust.
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Post by: geauxtigers on June 13, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
How far left? 6 inches at 20 yards or just an inch? Try tweaking your arrow rest 1/16 of an inch usually this won't mess with the tune bit will correct your problem, if that doesn't help probably form.Thanks JBar - I'll definitely have them check my arrow rest when I take it in. I was off about 6" at 20 yards
Post by: geauxtigers on June 13, 2017, 09:24:59 PM
left ball heavier than right ball.good guess, but I think it's actually the right that hangs low...
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Post by: stromdiddily on June 14, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
Do you shoot with both eyes open? It's nearly impossible to diagnose without seeing you shoot but if the bow was actually tuned, my money is on an eye dominance issue.
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Post by: Mudman on June 14, 2017, 08:26:32 PM
I find it hard to believe they wouldn't honor an actual defect but that's not the point of this thread.All good advice! Research Tomkat bow and you will learn about holes not drilled exactly correct. They replaced limbs twice and told me I had to use whisker biscuit cause it was designed for that rest! I almost drove to Eugene. :bash: All I asked for was store credit. Just something to think about, some bows may be built wrong??
Do you shoot with both eyes open? It's nearly impossible to diagnose without seeing you shoot but if the bow was actually tuned, my money is on an eye dominance issue.
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Post by: geauxtigers on July 10, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
Assuming you are right handed and shooting with both eyes open, try closing your left eye - if it's eye dominance, your POI is going to move right; if there is no effect, probably torqueing and work on form.
Thanks. I am right handed, and have been closing my left eye. Shot it a bit more this past weekend and still had the same issue. All signs are pointing towards torqueing, although I feel like I really loosened up my grip and it hasn't helped. I definitely need some professional help with adjustments at this point though as I've probably screwed up both the sighting and the whisker biscuit alignment.
Post by: 2labs on July 10, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 11, 2017, 07:29:54 AM
Assuming you are right handed and shooting with both eyes open, try closing your left eye - if it's eye dominance, your POI is going to move right; if there is no effect, probably torqueing and work on form.
Thanks. I am right handed, and have been closing my left eye. Shot it a bit more this past weekend and still had the same issue. All signs are pointing towards torqueing, although I feel like I really loosened up my grip and it hasn't helped. I definitely need some professional help with adjustments at this point though as I've probably screwed up both the sighting and the whisker biscuit alignment.
Try closing just your thumb and index finger, if you aren't comfortable shooting from an open hand. A wrist leash is a big psychological help being comfortable with the open hand.
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Post by: GodLovesUgly on December 04, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
From your descriptions though I would tend to lean towards a post-release torque occurring in your hand or wrist.
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