Post by: cougforester on June 15, 2017, 09:34:14 AM
Post by: 1bugman on June 15, 2017, 09:55:51 AM
Post by: Parkern on June 15, 2017, 10:16:09 AM
Post by: cougforester on June 15, 2017, 10:26:14 AM
FYI the grade creek road is blocked by some massive rocks just past Grade Creek if anyone is trying to get to south navarre campground on via that road.
I was up there during memorial day hanging cameras. Able to get past it on motorcycles very easily, and hoping that Cooper Mtn. road will be passable once the snow melts off. But yeah those boulders are huge!
Post by: Parkern on June 15, 2017, 10:29:41 AM
Post by: Craig on June 15, 2017, 11:13:01 AM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 15, 2017, 02:22:44 PM
Grade
Post by: westside Elkhunter on June 15, 2017, 07:05:01 PM
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Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 16, 2017, 09:21:38 AM
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Post by: lokidog on June 16, 2017, 09:45:51 AM
Westside Elkhunter...if your up in the Tacoma area and want to meet up for coffee and go over maps just let me know...Manson is my hometown unit (had to move over here for work).
Grade
Don't trust him, he just wants free coffee...... :tung:
Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 16, 2017, 01:57:11 PM
Post by: westside Elkhunter on June 16, 2017, 03:51:08 PM
Westside Elkhunter...if your up in the Tacoma area and want to meet up for coffee and go over maps just let me know...Manson is my hometown unit (had to move over here for work).Hey Grade. Sounds good to me. Thank you for offer. Maybe try and meet up next weekend sometime.
Grade
Justin
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Post by: safehunter on June 18, 2017, 06:14:35 AM
Loki...If he wants me to give up my good spots he need to buy donuts too!!! :)
I'd bring a load of Krispy Kremes and hearing aids for some of those spots!!!
Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 19, 2017, 11:01:10 AM
(Safe...my brother ran into a big group of turkey's the next Gulch to the west of your cabin...fyi...they are spreading out!)
Grade
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 19, 2017, 12:13:57 PM
Post by: elkh8me on June 19, 2017, 07:36:46 PM
Just a fair warning this guy can talk :chuckle: congrats on the draw!
Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 20, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Grade
Post by: westside Elkhunter on June 23, 2017, 08:14:30 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 23, 2017, 08:39:29 AM
Post by: heavyhorned on June 30, 2017, 11:30:01 AM
Post by: cougforester on October 19, 2017, 09:06:09 AM
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2017, 09:10:10 AM
Post by: cougforester on October 19, 2017, 09:13:42 AM
how much of that area got burned. I was afraid to go look9k acres, pretty much the entire Safety Harbor drainage.
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2017, 09:15:59 AM
Post by: heavyhorned on October 19, 2017, 09:39:23 AM
Post by: cougforester on October 19, 2017, 09:51:15 AM
i noticed the weather is supposed to take a big change this weekend. (10/20-10/22. hope it starts getting them to move. seen one two point and about 20 floppy ears. lots of camps with little hanging. talked to one group that were leaving on Tuesday and between three guys they seen 9 doe's one spike and a small two point. all of the deer that i have seen taken have been low near orchards or on privet lands. i did see on muley freek that Paul shot a brute of a buck on the south shore very low. i saw that buck last winter along the hwy.
They probably were watching the same group I was then. And yeah supposed to get snow Saturday. Gonna be windy as hell tomorrow then be snowy and calm Saturday. Ought to be good! There's a big kitty problem below the Grade Creek road too. I've had three different cougars come through with regularity (about once every ten days or so) and haven't had any deer come by that camera since they started. Funny how that happens. Wouldn't mind sticking a tag on the tom.
Post by: heavyhorned on October 19, 2017, 10:13:28 AM
Post by: cougforester on October 19, 2017, 10:17:49 AM
humm funny met a guy sat mid day out at camp 4 along grade creek. he mentioned seeing a few cats on camera and see a bull moose in Antalon lake. might this be you? if so i was the guy with wife and daughter eating lunch after walking to the end of the mountain and back seeing a floppy eared doe.
Ha yep. That's me. Sent you a PM.
Post by: Mulieman on October 23, 2017, 08:22:20 AM
They probably were watching the same group I was then. And yeah supposed to get snow Saturday. Gonna be windy as hell tomorrow then be snowy and calm Saturday. Ought to be good! There's a big kitty problem below the Grade Creek road too. I've had three different cougars come through with regularity (about once every ten days or so) and haven't had any deer come by that camera since they started. Funny how that happens. Wouldn't mind sticking a tag on the tom.
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I saw a cougar hanging in a camp at Antillon Lake after opening weekend and heard there were 3 travelling together when they got that one.
Post by: cougforester on October 23, 2017, 09:12:48 AM
They probably were watching the same group I was then. And yeah supposed to get snow Saturday. Gonna be windy as hell tomorrow then be snowy and calm Saturday. Ought to be good! There's a big kitty problem below the Grade Creek road too. I've had three different cougars come through with regularity (about once every ten days or so) and haven't had any deer come by that camera since they started. Funny how that happens. Wouldn't mind sticking a tag on the tom.
I saw a cougar hanging in a camp at Antillon Lake after opening weekend and heard there were 3 travelling together when they got that one.
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Well I had all three on camera at once. Crazy, did you hear roughly where it got shot?
Post by: hirshey on October 23, 2017, 10:50:36 AM
humm funny met a guy sat mid day out at camp 4 along grade creek. he mentioned seeing a few cats on camera and see a bull moose in Antalon lake. might this be you? if so i was the guy with wife and daughter eating lunch after walking to the end of the mountain and back seeing a floppy eared doe.
What is up with those floppy ears? I asked biologists about a decade ago and they had no explanation, but also no interest. :dunno:
Post by: lokidog on October 23, 2017, 11:53:23 AM
humm funny met a guy sat mid day out at camp 4 along grade creek. he mentioned seeing a few cats on camera and see a bull moose in Antalon lake. might this be you? if so i was the guy with wife and daughter eating lunch after walking to the end of the mountain and back seeing a floppy eared doe.
What is up with those floppy ears? I asked biologists about a decade ago and they had no explanation, but also no interest. :dunno:
We had a doe around for a few years we called Donkey Doe.
Post by: Mulieman on October 23, 2017, 12:19:46 PM
They probably were watching the same group I was then. And yeah supposed to get snow Saturday. Gonna be windy as hell tomorrow then be snowy and calm Saturday. Ought to be good! There's a big kitty problem below the Grade Creek road too. I've had three different cougars come through with regularity (about once every ten days or so) and haven't had any deer come by that camera since they started. Funny how that happens. Wouldn't mind sticking a tag on the tom.
I saw a cougar hanging in a camp at Antillon Lake after opening weekend and heard there were 3 travelling together when they got that one.
Well I had all three on camera at once. Crazy, did you hear roughly where it got shot?
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No, other guys in my camp heard it on the radio. They heard "we got one the other two are headed your way".
Post by: heavyhorned on October 23, 2017, 12:23:48 PM
humm funny met a guy sat mid day out at camp 4 along grade creek. he mentioned seeing a few cats on camera and see a bull moose in Antalon lake. might this be you? if so i was the guy with wife and daughter eating lunch after walking to the end of the mountain and back seeing a floppy eared doe.
What is up with those floppy ears? I asked biologists about a decade ago and they had no explanation, but also no interest. :dunno:
we see a couple every year. this one looked as though her right ear was almost ripped off. we see it more often up high. hell had a friend who shoot a one eared 4x4.
Post by: hirshey on October 23, 2017, 12:37:50 PM
humm funny met a guy sat mid day out at camp 4 along grade creek. he mentioned seeing a few cats on camera and see a bull moose in Antalon lake. might this be you? if so i was the guy with wife and daughter eating lunch after walking to the end of the mountain and back seeing a floppy eared doe.
What is up with those floppy ears? I asked biologists about a decade ago and they had no explanation, but also no interest. :dunno:
we see a couple every year. this one looked as though her right ear was almost ripped off. we see it more often up high. hell had a friend who shoot a one eared 4x4.
Yeah I've seen a lot of those critters... I have taken photos of them in Chelan county for a decade... figured either frost or parasite must degrade the tendons or muscles that control the ears. Found one doe 3 years in a row that had ears like a Scottish terrier; short and pointy. She was DEFINITELY a frostbite case.. those ears were rough! That Manson unit is pretty cool. Lots of unexpected species and unique cases to see.
Post by: cougforester on October 23, 2017, 01:24:45 PM
humm funny met a guy sat mid day out at camp 4 along grade creek. he mentioned seeing a few cats on camera and see a bull moose in Antalon lake. might this be you? if so i was the guy with wife and daughter eating lunch after walking to the end of the mountain and back seeing a floppy eared doe.
What is up with those floppy ears? I asked biologists about a decade ago and they had no explanation, but also no interest. :dunno:
we see a couple every year. this one looked as though her right ear was almost ripped off. we see it more often up high. hell had a friend who shoot a one eared 4x4.
Yeah I've seen a lot of those critters... I have taken photos of them in Chelan county for a decade... figured either frost or parasite must degrade the tendons or muscles that control the ears. Found one doe 3 years in a row that had ears like a Scottish terrier; short and pointy. She was DEFINITELY a frostbite case.. those ears were rough! That Manson unit is pretty cool. Lots of unexpected species and unique cases to see.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F2qwoncy.jpg&hash=d984af830d0388b7b7b6c5e51ca5d6e2fa3da160) Floppy ole gal!
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 23, 2017, 01:57:44 PM
I saw more in Wyoming than Washington, not surprising with the wind and systems that bring arctic cold down into the lower 48. I've seen a few that had their ears broken off after severe frost trauma, from just stubs to half ears. One of my favorites was with a camp of Washington hunters I checked every year in Wyoming, the patriarch of the group was very selective and either killed big bucks or ate his tag. I rolled into their camp one day just after they'd arrived back with his wimpy 17" wide buck. He had jumped it in heavy cover and made a split second decision to shoot when he saw it was at least 6" past his ears - but he was missing the outer half of his ears! His group members had taken a lot of ribbing form him over the years, and they were paying it back with interest.
Post by: westside Elkhunter on October 23, 2017, 04:38:30 PM
Post by: heavyhorned on October 24, 2017, 11:29:54 AM
Post by: timberfaller on October 25, 2017, 11:02:12 AM
Post by: RileyH on October 25, 2017, 03:08:17 PM
My ol' man had the tag last year and we hunted it hard up high and down low. Ended up killing a 170" buck he passed twice earlier because we ran out of time, family vacation to Hawaii...
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Post by: westside Elkhunter on November 17, 2017, 12:15:03 PM
Post by: westside Elkhunter on November 17, 2017, 12:15:57 PM
Post by: jstone on November 17, 2017, 01:09:07 PM
Post by: cougforester on November 17, 2017, 02:29:15 PM
I heard there are lots of deer this year in that unit. Late archery should be good there this year..
Lol, don't want people in another unit close by? :chuckle:
Post by: jstone on November 19, 2017, 12:43:42 PM
Post by: cougforester on June 24, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 25, 2018, 09:00:25 AM
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Post by: cougforester on June 25, 2018, 12:32:10 PM
I'm curious too if anyone on here drew this one...I'll still sell my soul for coffee and donuts...
Grade
I think you and I need to meet up and chat. Did some hiking this weekend into new areas that looks very promising.
Post by: grade-creek-rd on June 25, 2018, 02:44:28 PM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 27, 2018, 11:57:43 AM
Post by: heavyhorned on June 27, 2018, 12:03:55 PM
Post by: cougforester on June 27, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
I will be over there riding again this week/weekend cutting what needs to be cut out and poking around. Just like going home
There's at least 10-15 trees before you get to the switchbacks. In the first three-ish miles there are about 50-60 of them, hard to find the trail sometimes. Heavy erosion on the trail as well from snow melt, motorcycle passage is impossible. I laid down some boot tracks for you to follow at least!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 10, 2018, 05:36:45 AM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on July 10, 2018, 08:02:48 AM
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Post by: cougforester on July 10, 2018, 11:11:05 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 11, 2018, 05:26:19 AM
Read on WTA that the road is in excellent condition now. Someone said the drove a regualr passenger car up there a week or so ago with no bumps or issues whatsoever.Probably not an issue if they came up to S. Navarre from the Chelan side. They put a lot of time making that like a highway for the fire. Coming in from GC or Cooper Mtn is and always will be a little rougher but prefer it like that it keeps some of the Subaru's out
Post by: cougforester on June 10, 2020, 03:45:12 PM
Post by: Hitsman3 on June 10, 2020, 04:28:12 PM
Post by: cougforester on June 10, 2020, 05:05:02 PM
My wife drew! Looking to get her first deer. We will probably only have 4-5 days to hunt as we are going to Montana on the 11th.
Sent you a PM
Post by: ElkFeaver on June 11, 2020, 07:08:47 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 11, 2020, 08:05:12 AM
Post by: ElkFeaver on June 11, 2020, 08:12:11 AM
Post by: westside Elkhunter on June 11, 2020, 08:53:38 AM
I drew the Manson with a buddy . Any tips would be great . Just know the basics of the area .Congrats. Plan a few days were you can't see. That fog sets in and sometimes you can't even see the road.
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Post by: ElkFeaver on June 11, 2020, 09:43:22 AM
Post by: Hitsman3 on June 11, 2020, 09:54:29 AM
Looks like some good trails to access areas on upper end of the lake .
I sent you a PM
Post by: Onewhohikes on June 11, 2020, 10:00:45 AM
Post by: cougforester on June 11, 2020, 11:26:57 AM
I would hike those trails first to see if you want to pack an animal out on your back from one.
Especially in November....
Post by: heavyhorned on June 17, 2020, 10:05:21 AM
Post by: Bigbucksnobambies on July 04, 2020, 06:38:43 PM
Post by: cougforester on July 04, 2020, 09:49:53 PM
Drew the manson tag this year but havnt hunted that area in 15 years. I figure it's starting to get thicker after it burnt. Just wanted to see if anyone on here had any Info on a place to start. I'll probably have 10 days total to hunt so not sure if I should go in Nov 1st or wait for the last 10 days.
Got your PM. Read heavyhorned's reply above, he knows his stuff. I would wait as long as you can to take your time off and wait for fresh snow. You should have a fun hunt.
Post by: actionshooter on July 05, 2020, 02:34:41 PM
a few years back you could drive and hike all day without seeing a deer. now i average 12 deer a day in the last two years of making the loop.That sounds hopeful of a come back... this was one of my favorite units years ago but quit going because the deer had taken such a hit.
Post by: Onewhohikes on July 05, 2020, 04:42:30 PM
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Post by: westside Elkhunter on July 05, 2020, 06:07:20 PM
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Post by: jstone on July 05, 2020, 06:10:07 PM
Post by: westside Elkhunter on July 06, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Couple weeks ago I saw a big batchelor herd of spikes and forkeys, at least 7 or 8 all running together. That hasn't happened in the last 3 or 4 years. The hills are still really green up there too so lots of good feed following that mild winter up there. Trending in the right direction finally I think.You see any bears while you were up there?
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Post by: westside Elkhunter on July 06, 2020, 11:02:00 AM
Was your buddy just driving the roads or out hiking the hills away from the road?Little of both
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Post by: cougforester on July 06, 2020, 09:59:03 PM
Couple weeks ago I saw a big batchelor herd of spikes and forkeys, at least 7 or 8 all running together. That hasn't happened in the last 3 or 4 years. The hills are still really green up there too so lots of good feed following that mild winter up there. Trending in the right direction finally I think.You see any bears while you were up there?
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Nah. Wasn't really looking though, was tracking a camera down that had been dead for over a year and a half :( But the deer looked fat and happy.