Post by: Mongo Hunter on June 20, 2017, 09:55:22 AM
Now I have over $800 invested in my G26 between sights, holsters, mags ect. and getting the Sig I would be pretty much starting over. so my question is for those of you who own a new P320 and maybe even traded from a Glock. is it worth it? Is the Sig THAT much better that its worth swapping everything over.
I really liked the HK VP9sk but they screwed it up making it only a 10rd mag. The Sig Subcompact is 12rds without any modifications and the Subcompact is the one I'm more interested in although the Compact is not off the table.
Any reviews or help would be appreciated. thanks guys!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 20, 2017, 10:22:45 AM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on June 20, 2017, 02:28:46 PM
Post by: Bofire on June 20, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
The grip angle is what sold me. Soft shooting, accurate (slightly better than MY glocks) very reliable. I like them. I find the grip angle very similar to my 1911's.
My glocks were 100% reliable I would never bad mouth them. The sig just fits me better.
Now that I have two fire control groups I am shopping barrels, slides, frames etc. Lots of fun. The trigger change has taken some practice to adapt.
Carl
Post by: Alchase on June 20, 2017, 05:27:05 PM
So overall even though ill probably only get $600 for all my Glock stuff and cost me over $800 to switch to the sig you would say its worth it?
Really the only one who can answer your question is you.
Is it worth it to you, too shoot a pistol you much prefer?
Or do you continue with a pistol that works, but might not be your favorite?
At different points in my life I would have answered those questions differently then I do now.
I have the means to shoot what I wish, not what just works, or something I feel I have settled for.
I would tell you to go with the pistol you enjoy shooting the most.
FYI, I have never got the amount I have put into any of my pistols that I have sold.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 20, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Post by: Thehowler on June 21, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
Post by: C-Money on June 21, 2017, 06:30:15 AM
Post by: b23 on June 21, 2017, 07:07:53 AM
If you're gonna get a P320, buy the 357 SIG.
The 357Sig is hands down my favorite pistol cartridge. I have a 229 in 357Sig and it is one of my all time favorite handguns.
BUT, if you plan on shooting it a lot, keep in mind ammo cost almost 50% more for the 357Sig than it does for a 9mm.
Post by: Bofire on June 21, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
I am seeing caliber change kits and he misc. parts for sale all over and prices are going down
Carl
Post by: Alchase on June 21, 2017, 08:42:08 PM
Keep in mind any p320 can be a 357 sig, 40, 9mm or 45 in a matter of a minute!! :chuckle:
I am seeing caliber change kits and he misc. parts for sale all over and prices are going down
Carl
That in itself makes me want one
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 21, 2017, 09:57:17 PM
If you're gonna get a P320, buy the 357 SIG.
The 357Sig is hands down my favorite pistol cartridge. I have a 229 in 357Sig and it is one of my all time favorite handguns.
BUT, if you plan on shooting it a lot, keep in mind ammo cost almost 50% more for the 357Sig than it does for a 9mm.
I have the 250 compact that holds 13+1 that I carry in the desert. I bought 50 rounds for $40 at North 40.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on June 22, 2017, 06:44:29 AM
I might as well go with the compact I'm thinking.
Post by: Johnb317 on June 22, 2017, 09:03:25 AM
Post by: Bofire on June 22, 2017, 09:57:03 AM
I have heard getting one in 45 makes it easier to go to 9mm/357sig/40. I guess some of the smaller caliber cannot go to 45, BUT I am not sure.
Also in each size, "compact" etc you can get small/med/and large grips for each.
You can put a 4 inch barrel on a full size frame for a high cap. short barrel carry gun. :IBCOOL: parts are for sale all over.
Carl
Post by: Mongo Hunter on June 22, 2017, 11:16:09 AM
Who has them in stock?
I called Sporting systems in Vancouver 2 days ago and they had them.
Post by: Bofire on June 22, 2017, 07:04:12 PM
Carl
Post by: Yondering on June 22, 2017, 08:04:22 PM
I'm defiantly sticking with the 9mm. I love the .357 sig but I shoot my "Serious use" guns ALOT and 9mm is still so freaking cheap. now I'm trying to decided if I want to go with the compact (15+1) or the Sub compact (12+1).
I might as well go with the compact I'm thinking.
The compact makes a lot more sense to me than a subcompact. Any normal sized person can carry a compact (320, Glock, or whatever) if you want to in most situations, and you definitely gain some shootability with it.
Personally, I would switch just to step up from the G26 to a larger pistol. My choice would be a Glock 19 or even a 17, but if the 320 is what floats your boat, go for it. Either way you'd need to replace the mags and holsters.
Post by: thinkingman on June 23, 2017, 09:27:38 AM
I just did it, thousands of rounds thru glocks, sold my 19 and my 43, bought a P320F 9mm and a P320f 45.These are all the best reasons to never become a Glock devotee.
The grip angle is what sold me. Soft shooting, accurate (slightly better than MY glocks) very reliable. I like them. I find the grip angle very similar to my 1911's.
My glocks were 100% reliable I would never bad mouth them. The sig just fits me better.
Now that I have two fire control groups I am shopping barrels, slides, frames etc. Lots of fun. The trigger change has taken some practice to adapt.
Carl
Why hamper yourself when there are better options out there with more similar controls and ergonomics than Glock?
Glad some of you are seeing the light.
BTW, used Glocks and Glock parts are so common and so cheap, why would anyone buy new?
They depreciate worse than a new car.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on June 25, 2017, 08:17:47 PM
Post by: Alchase on June 25, 2017, 08:29:05 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 25, 2017, 08:50:45 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on June 25, 2017, 09:43:25 PM
Please post a review of your new P320 after you get a chance to shoot a bit!
Will do! Might be a few weeks but I'll get it done
Post by: C-Money on June 26, 2017, 07:21:11 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 11, 2017, 02:15:03 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 12, 2017, 08:04:51 AM
I got my holster for NSR yesterday so I will try and go pick up the gun today. Very excited!
Ill do the review when I can. I don't like doing a review on a gun that I haven't shot/carried a lot. it feels disingenuous and dishonest without putting it through at least some honest work.
I can tell you plenty about some other guns and I may do a review on my Spikes rifle now that I have shot it a lot.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 14, 2017, 10:59:45 AM
Post by: Bofire on July 14, 2017, 01:10:58 PM
Let us know how you do!
Carl
Post by: Yondering on July 14, 2017, 01:57:48 PM
Picked up the P320c on Wednesday! So far its awesome to carry in the NSR holster. Hope to get out to shoot it early August!
You're carrying a gun you haven't even shot yet? :bdid:
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 14, 2017, 02:05:15 PM
Picked up the P320c on Wednesday! So far its awesome to carry in the NSR holster. Hope to get out to shoot it early August!
You're carrying a gun you haven't even shot yet? :bdid:
There are few gun companies I would trust without shooting. Glock, H&K, Sig, S&W have all won my confidence through YEARS of experience with them. I have no problem carrying any of their firearms without testing. I also carry a backup so theres always that lol
Post by: Yondering on July 14, 2017, 03:19:08 PM
Post by: Special T on July 14, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
2 why would you leave the most aftermarket supported platform? It sound to me like some one saying they are going to trade their pimped out Ruger 10-22 For a marlin semi auto, doesn't make sense to me...
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Post by: Alchase on July 14, 2017, 03:48:28 PM
A couple of questions for you guys... 1 for those of you who prefer the 1911 system grip have you wrapped your hands around a "Not a Glock" 80% lower. It's supposed to have a 1911 style rake to it.I have 1911s, I also have both single stack and double stack pistols. None of the others bothered my wrist.
2 why would you leave the most aftermarket supported platform? It sound to me like some one saying they are going to trade their pimped out Ruger 10-22 For a marlin semi auto, doesn't make sense to me...
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I like Glocks, I believe they are a very utilitarian pistol that goes bang when you need it.
Changing up the lower for a "not a Glock" was never a consideration. There are too many pistols in the same price range that are just as good. I would be willing to bet most also have their own idiosyncrasies as well.
It all comes down to personal choice.
Post by: Bofire on July 14, 2017, 04:52:40 PM
Carl
https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2016/6/22/get-a-grip-angle-that-is/
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 14, 2017, 07:29:19 PM
Wow. That's way more trusting than I would be, also with years of experience and I work on them. Not to mention you don't even know if it's zeroed.
Well we'll find out when I take it out. I'm waiting on my trijicon HD's to come in.
As to the gun being zeroed I've never had an issue with a gun being enough off to matter. But that's something I'll look at when I take it out.
Also i did do the ol pencil test to make sure the striker is working. Sucker flew right into the air. If there's enough for that it will go bang.
The only guns that I wouldn't trust of the box (that I would buy) are Rugers, any 1911, Springfields and maybe a Canik. Probably a couple others too. But the ones I mentioned I trust because they are good company's and I've never had an issue. And really most people I talk to don't either.
And I switched from Glock to Sig because I wanted the next size up from the G26 but the Sig I believe is superior. I'll find out soon.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 14, 2017, 08:30:47 PM
Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 14, 2017, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: Alchase on July 14, 2017, 08:42:31 PM
I will practice everything from dry firing (shooting the dog, the TV, etc...) to pulling from the various holster styles until it becomes muscle memory. Lots of range time before as well.
Drives my wife nuts. She says I spend twice as much after I purchase a new pistol, as I do on the pistol.
I remind her before we were married I was shooting between 500-1000 rounds a week, that's when I get "the look"
LOL.
There have also been a couple that I returned or sold before I become proficient with, or just plain did not like shooting.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 14, 2017, 08:50:02 PM
Why are you not planning to shoot it until early August? Too busy or waiting on the sights? I can understand the former but not the latter.
Sights for one and I'm out if town for a bit soon and won't be able to get out till August.
Post by: Yondering on July 14, 2017, 09:30:19 PM
Wow. That's way more trusting than I would be, also with years of experience and I work on them. Not to mention you don't even know if it's zeroed.
Well we'll find out when I take it out. I'm waiting on my trijicon HD's to come in.
As to the gun being zeroed I've never had an issue with a gun being enough off to matter. But that's something I'll look at when I take it out.
Also i did do the ol pencil test to make sure the striker is working. Sucker flew right into the air. If there's enough for that it will go bang.
The only guns that I wouldn't trust of the box (that I would buy) are Rugers, any 1911, Springfields and maybe a Canik. Probably a couple others too. But the ones I mentioned I trust because they are good company's and I've never had an issue. And really most people I talk to don't either.
And I switched from Glock to Sig because I wanted the next size up from the G26 but the Sig I believe is superior. I'll find out soon.
IMHO it's a big mistake to be so trusting of a firearm you've never even test fired if you're planning to trust your life to it. Personally my life is worth more than that; being excited about a new pistol does not take precedence over carrying something already proven. As to not caring if the sights are zeroed - you must have pretty low standards if you've never found one that's off enough to matter.
I'm working on a Sig 320 right now (slide milling for RMR) that just recently came back from Sig; when was purchased new the trigger didn't reset occasionally. My bud could have been in a real bad spot if he'd trusted his life to that one without test firing it. Sig took care of it, and most of them obviously don't have that problem, but you can't know for sure that it works right without shooting it.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 14, 2017, 09:48:40 PM
And frankly I'm willing to take the risk. You guys are now tagged in the post. When I take it out either I'll get to say "see no big deal, gun worked fine". Or "made a huge mistake and Sig is going bye bye".
Who knows I may end up with egg on my face. But I carry 2 guns anyways, one will work if I need it.
Post by: Alchase on July 14, 2017, 10:02:32 PM
I have plenty high standards for accuracy. When I say off its normaly: does it hit at where the sights cover? Or slight 12 o clock just above the sight. That's about the only thing that I ever have to figure out with any gun I've ever owned.
And frankly I'm willing to take the risk. You guys are now tagged in the post. When I take it out either I'll get to say "see no big deal, gun worked fine". Or "made a huge mistake and Sig is going bye bye".
Who knows I may end up with egg on my face. But I carry 2 guns anyways, one will work if I need it.
Dude,
It is 12:00 on a Friday night (Oklahoma time), and we are sitting here on Hunting-Washington.com impatiently waiting for your review.
And you tell us we have to wait until August, :yike:
We have to have something to nit-pick!
:chuckle:
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 15, 2017, 01:16:55 AM
And everyone's entitled to their opinions. I honestly agree with their points to an extent. If it wasn't for the fact that it's one of the top brands currently on the market I would be right there with them. But to be honest you never know if your guns going to work till you need it anyways. For all you know you got one of the only bad primers in the ammo factory sitting in the chamber of your gun right now. It's all about odds and reducing Darwin to a minimum. That's why we buy good guns, good mags and use good ammo.
Post by: b23 on July 15, 2017, 12:21:52 PM
I have plenty high standards for accuracy. When I say off its normaly: does it hit at where the sights cover? Or slight 12 o clock just above the sight. That's about the only thing that I ever have to figure out with any gun I've ever owned.
And frankly I'm willing to take the risk. You guys are now tagged in the post. When I take it out either I'll get to say "see no big deal, gun worked fine". Or "made a huge mistake and Sig is going bye bye".
Who knows I may end up with egg on my face. But I carry 2 guns anyways, one will work if I need it.
Dude,
It is 12:00 on a Friday night (Oklahoma time), and we are sitting here on Hunting-Washington.com impatiently waiting for your review.
And you tell us we have to wait until August, :yike:
We have to have something to nit-pick!
:chuckle:
I'm actually kinda hoping MH holds off until well after Aug. before he posts up a review because the more I read/look at these things the more I am wanting one so he's saving me money by NOT posting a review, well, at least for now he's saving me money but that's likely to change.
This friggen place has been nothing but a money pit for me and you all are who I blame whenever my wife asks, "what are you buying now?" Yep, I blame allllllll of you as being bad influences. :chuckle:
Post by: Dan-o on July 15, 2017, 02:37:52 PM
I'm pretty invested in Glock, and don't think I can see my way clear to changing.
In your review, please say that you regret going away from Glock and intend to buy your stuff back. That will make me feel better.
Post by: Yondering on July 15, 2017, 04:27:15 PM
I have to quit reading this thread.
I'm pretty invested in Glock, and don't think I can see my way clear to changing.
In your review, please say that you regret going away from Glock and intend to buy your stuff back. That will make me feel better.
If you're satisfied with your Glocks, there's no real reason to change to the 320.
I've got both here with me right now, and can tell you the 320 is just an alternative to the Glock, nothing more. It's not better, just different. The quality certainly isn't better than a Glock, and the internals are more complicated. They make sense if the grip angle of a Glock is a problem for you, otherwise it's just Chevy vs Ford arguments. Both are decent quality and will do what you need them to. I would not carry either one without test firing and confirming zero first of course.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 17, 2017, 12:31:10 PM
I have plenty high standards for accuracy. When I say off its normaly: does it hit at where the sights cover? Or slight 12 o clock just above the sight. That's about the only thing that I ever have to figure out with any gun I've ever owned.
And frankly I'm willing to take the risk. You guys are now tagged in the post. When I take it out either I'll get to say "see no big deal, gun worked fine". Or "made a huge mistake and Sig is going bye bye".
Who knows I may end up with egg on my face. But I carry 2 guns anyways, one will work if I need it.
Dude,
It is 12:00 on a Friday night (Oklahoma time), and we are sitting here on Hunting-Washington.com impatiently waiting for your review.
And you tell us we have to wait until August, :yike:
We have to have something to nit-pick!
:chuckle:
I'm actually kinda hoping MH holds off until well after Aug. before he posts up a review because the more I read/look at these things the more I am wanting one so he's saving me money by NOT posting a review, well, at least for now he's saving me money but that's likely to change.
This friggen place has been nothing but a money pit for me and you all are who I blame whenever my wife asks, "what are you buying now?" Yep, I blame allllllll of you as being bad influences. :chuckle:
This is not the first time I've been accused of being a bad influence. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 17, 2017, 12:45:33 PM
Not a die hard glock guy saying glock is better :chuckle: I went in with a open mind and loved them and now use them.
I have owned more then a few glocks and sold every single one. So I can say from first hand experience with thousands of rounds through both the sigs are better for me :tup:
Post by: Mongo Hunter on July 24, 2017, 08:18:37 AM
Post by: JoeE on August 08, 2017, 02:07:40 PM
It appears that the in the news now today is more reports of the P320 failing a drop test.
I'll stick with a Glock.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 08, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
Last year a good friend of mine who I went to the police academy with dropped his P320 9mm and it went off and shot himself in the calf. The gun was secured inside a duty holster on his duty belt. Luckily he only had minor injuries.
It appears that the in the news now today is more reports of the P320 failing a drop test.
I'll stick with a Glock.
I did see the recent videos and the letter released by SIG.
Ill start off by saying I'm NEVER happy with recalls of any kind. Ive had dealings with this before with the original LCP and it left a bad taste in my mouth for Ruger ever since.
That being said
A) You make a products long enough sometimes things get over looked. I'm not making excuses its just a fact of mass production.
B) Just about every manufacture has had some kind of recall at some point for one thing or another, including Glock.
C) again not making excuses but its also HOW does the company address the issue.
I saw the letter today and it sounds like ill know the answer by Monday what they plan to do to fix it. IF they handle this well Ill still be happy with Sig although slightly disappointed overall with having to deal with a recall.
couple examples are like when I had my Tundra in for some of their recalls. Toyota handled it well and gave me a free rental car for the day. still an inconvenience but an attempt to make it right.
The LCP recall. again I was not happy BUT they sent a box when they were ready for it all prepaid. and on return I got a hat and an extra magazine. again not happy but it was an attempt to make it right.
I hope Sig handles this well.
Post by: Bofire on August 08, 2017, 07:41:41 PM
Carl