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Title: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Bru14 on February 25, 2009, 05:27:20 PM
Anyone have pics of a buck that was taken in the Nile unit this year, I guess it was at the sportsman show in Yakima, scored 226 and some change. My dad saw it and didnt get a picture wondering if anyone knew anything about it, guess it had 2 droptines??????
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Red Dawg on February 25, 2009, 05:29:05 PM
 :yike: I would love to see a pic of that deer. That is flat out amazing if it is true.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: 270Shooter on February 25, 2009, 05:30:49 PM
Anyone have pics of a buck that was taken in the Nile unit this year, I guess it was at the sportsman show in Yakima, scored 226 and some change. My dad saw it and didnt get a picture wondering if anyone knew anything about it, guess it had 2 droptines??????
Pretty sure that the buck with 2 droppers was shot in alberta.

Could be wrong though :yike:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 25, 2009, 05:32:36 PM
Wasn't there a double droptine taken in the Entiat this year? But that didnt score that high
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: skybusterbo on February 25, 2009, 05:33:29 PM
2 droptines? There was one like that shot in the Entiat. Late archery permit. :dunno:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: 270Shooter on February 25, 2009, 05:38:44 PM
If its the one I'm thinking of both droppers were on the same antler.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: huntnphool on February 25, 2009, 05:57:05 PM
The Entiat buck actually gross scored pretty well.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 25, 2009, 05:58:54 PM
yea 180 something right? but not anything near 226
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: boneaddict on February 25, 2009, 05:59:33 PM
I look at that deer and all I see is weak back.  BWAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA j/k
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: huntnphool on February 25, 2009, 06:41:23 PM
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I look at that deer and all I see is weak back.

You mean g3's don't you Bone? :dunno:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on February 25, 2009, 06:49:01 PM
I look at that deer and all I see is weak back.  BWAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA j/k

Oh my God you sound like Guy Eastman.  ;)  That was the most informative yet boring video I have ever seen on field judging mule deer. 
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on February 25, 2009, 07:26:59 PM
Yeah, the buck I remember from the Yakima show was from Alberta.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on February 25, 2009, 08:52:30 PM
 :yeah:

I have a comment on why you will never see a 200 class buck in the Nile but it isn't very PC so I'll just leave it at that. 
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: boneaddict on February 26, 2009, 06:34:55 AM
I was joking but yes, the g3.  I hear ya about Eastman.  Great hunter, but his speaking skills.....LOL
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: PacificNWhunter on February 26, 2009, 08:11:40 AM
Oh my God you sound like Guy Eastman.  ;)  That was the most informative yet boring video I have ever seen on field judging mule deer. 
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Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: buckmaster_wa on February 26, 2009, 09:14:24 AM
I dont know if it was at the sportsmans show but there is a picture of a buck up at Whistlin jacks lodge. The gas station part. The pic is an older guy with a nice non-typical buck with a drop tine on one side and a couple kickers on the other. A buddy of mine that lives up there said it came from the Nile. Maybe norsepeak knows more about it.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Bru14 on February 28, 2009, 08:44:29 AM
hmm yea saw that entiat buck earlier.... but I guess the drops on the buck were on the same side..... Wasnt sure thats just what I had heard.........
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: kirkl on February 28, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
Ya i saw that buck at the sportsmans show and believe it was alberta to. had two droppers on one side and one dropper on the other side.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: klickriverchromer on February 28, 2009, 01:41:20 PM
Ya right. :chuckle:  Haven't seen a deer that big in my days up there.  Saw one that big years ago up above whistlen jacks.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: @RCHER on February 28, 2009, 09:33:31 PM
Stewart (Entiat) buck from the Puyallup show...
Not 226 but this 200 is a great WA deer.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Bru14 on February 28, 2009, 10:09:03 PM
Saw the buck today, theres a picture of it hanging in the woodshed.......
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jake on March 01, 2009, 04:20:39 PM
that picture at Whistlin jacks is no where near a 200 in deer, the nile or anywhere around yakima doesnt have the genetics to produce one for the fact that most are not full blood mulies :twocents:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 01, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
I would have to disagree 100% with the above statement, not about the picture because I haven't seen it, but the idea that anywhere around Yakima doesn't have the genetics to produce that big of deer. What about that 219" buck killed on the Rez like 3 or 4 years ago? In my understanding that buck was killed north of glenwood, close to Klickitat Meadows. If you hunt in the uppermost part of the Cowiche Unit, you are on the other side of the Meadows. That buck wasn't a pure muley, not even close. The genetics are there, somewhere, not in great amounts but there is the possibility, but they don't get the age required to get that big.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 01, 2009, 05:13:02 PM
my uncle works out at the yakima training center and one of the mp's brought in a 4x4 shed that we scored 96 2/8 inches. I'm no B&C scorer but I am probably within a few inches.  They are few and far between but they are out there!
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: huntnphool on March 01, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
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a 4x4 shed that we scored 96 2/8 inches.

WOW!!! with a match and a easy 18" spread credit that would be a 210" buck
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jake on March 01, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
im sure there are a handful of 200" deer floating around Yakima and the firing center produces some really nice deer, but as someone else stated game management is what is holding a lot of areas back.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 02, 2009, 09:39:51 AM
I agree with that. Game management isn't genetics though.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jdb on March 02, 2009, 09:42:45 AM
Ive seen some wopper,s on the winter range in unit 368 but I doubt any wood go even 170.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 02, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Just saw a fresh shed that one of my good friends picked up in that unit that would gross in the low 170's. Its a perfect typical, backs and fronts are even and deep, and mass typical of a benchleg. He usually picks up one horn a year that would go around 160" to 170" in the last five years. There is usually one or two really nice bucks killed in that unit every year, and non-typicals every so often. That unit has potential. I'd love to see it go draw only, like they did with Mud Lake years ago.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jdb on March 02, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Just saw a fresh shed that one of my good friends picked up in that unit that would gross in the low 170's. Its a perfect typical, backs and fronts are even and deep, and mass typical of a benchleg. He usually picks up one horn a year that would go around 160" to 170" in the last five years. There is usually one or two really nice bucks killed in that unit every year, and non-typicals every so often. That unit has potential. I'd love to see it go draw only, like they did with Mud Lake years ago.
amen to that brother.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on March 02, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
Dream on fishunt247.  The WDFW will never do that.  They should but they wont.  They wont do that for the same reason why the wont go to permit only for elk in E. WA.  It's all about the money.  They would lose too much revenue if they did that.  I agree with you.  I wish they would but they wont.

You spoke about mud lake.  That was awsome when 342 was permit only for deer.  There was some really nice bucks that ran around there.  If only ......
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 02, 2009, 05:31:42 PM
Like you said, WDFW is a business and thats it. They are interested in money. It would make too much sense, especially in the wake of the louse problem, to make some affected units permit only.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jake on March 02, 2009, 07:26:11 PM
 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

i got drawn for the tag "mud lake" the year it re opened after the bad winter of 1996, to put it lightly i was amazed at the deer numbers in the area, i hunted hard for the entire season doing nothing but breaking arrows and watching deer run away from me, had a blast......BUT what sense does it make now to have that unit open modern general season and muzzleloader, but closed to archery?
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 02, 2009, 07:37:48 PM
I wish they would have never opened it up but left it draw only, as most probably do. It was a closer option for hunters in the Yakima Valley that produced some really nice deer. Typical game dept though. Tag sales, tag sales, tag sales.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on March 02, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
I wish they would have never opened it up but left it draw only, as most probably do. It was a closer option for hunters in the Yakima Valley that produced some really nice deer. Typical game dept though. Tag sales, tag sales, tag sales.

TAG SALES, TAG SALES, TAG SALES >:( >:( >:(


Couldn't have said it better myself.  Course if you ask them it has nothing to do with tag sales.  They are simply doing what the hunters in this state want.  Since when do they ever truly listen to us? :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Red Dawg on March 02, 2009, 09:07:14 PM
They opened up the area because of pressures from sportsman like you and I. They also thought that the deer were mostly migratory. If you were there that year they opened it up it was a complete massacre. Dead deer hanging in every tree. They were wrong.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: 270Shooter on March 02, 2009, 09:21:52 PM
They opened up the area because of pressures from sportsman like you and I. They also thought that the deer were mostly migratory. If you were there that year they opened it up it was a complete massacre. Dead deer hanging in every tree. They were wrong.
Was it 04 when they re opened it? I hunted that, it was my first year. And yes it was crazy.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: bobcat on March 02, 2009, 09:28:47 PM
I heard the Umtanum went back to a general season because the tribal members were shooting many of the big bucks on their winter range. They figured why keep it permit only if the deer are going to be slaughtered anyway. I don't know if that's true. If there's any truth to it, pressure from the public to open it back up was also another big factor for opening it back up.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: bowhuntin on March 02, 2009, 09:36:28 PM
I heard the Umtanum went back to a general season because the tribal members were shooting many of the big bucks on their winter range. They figured why keep it permit only if the deer are going to be slaughtered anyway. I don't know if that's true. If there's any truth to it, pressure from the public to open it back up was also another big factor for opening it back up.

I had also heard that they opened it back up because the tribes were in there shooting the deer on their winter range.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: buckmaster_wa on March 03, 2009, 08:04:16 AM
I have posted a pic of this shed once already, but here is another picture of it. It was found somewhere between Chinook pass and White pass  :dunno:. And it scores 74 5/8 inches. Give it a 20 inch spread credit and you have got a 165 inch deer. It probably made it through the winter so the next set of antlers it grew were probabaly 10-20 inches bigger, so that would be a 175+ inch deer. And it is a benchleg buck. No where close to firing center area. So yes there are big deer around Yakima just few and far between.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: luvtohnt on March 03, 2009, 08:28:20 AM
My brother in law shot a nice benchleg buck in 342 the year they reopend it. It has gone to s&!* since then. I wish they would close it again for a few years.

Brandon
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 03, 2009, 09:22:26 AM
Yep Reddawg, thats the official reason I heard about that reopening too. I didn't hunt it because I honestly did not think that it would be safe. But I had buddies who did, and like you said, massacre. I didn't pressure them to open it? I love to see a few more permit only areas. Or do you mean that there are too many of us for the land area we have and they wanted to spread people out more?
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on March 03, 2009, 08:26:05 PM
I heard the Umtanum went back to a general season because the tribal members were shooting many of the big bucks on their winter range. They figured why keep it permit only if the deer are going to be slaughtered anyway. I don't know if that's true. If there's any truth to it, pressure from the public to open it back up was also another big factor for opening it back up.

I had also heard that they opened it back up because the tribes were in there shooting the deer on their winter range.

+1.  Of course the WDFW would never officially admit to that being the reason.  The official reason was from public pressure to reopen it.  I think that the WDFW should grow a sack and do what's right for once and sometimes that involves telling the general opinion of hunters to shove it. 
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 03, 2009, 09:16:54 PM
I would have to disagree 100% with the above statement, not about the picture because I haven't seen it, but the idea that anywhere around Yakima doesn't have the genetics to produce that big of deer. What about that 219" buck killed on the Rez like 3 or 4 years ago? In my understanding that buck was killed north of glenwood, close to Klickitat Meadows. If you hunt in the uppermost part of the Cowiche Unit, you are on the other side of the Meadows. That buck wasn't a pure muley, not even close. The genetics are there, somewhere, not in great amounts but there is the possibility, but they don't get the age required to get that big.


Rez buck
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: buckmaster_wa on March 03, 2009, 09:48:04 PM
WOW!!! now that would be one crazy European mount. Could you imagine the looks you would get when someone saw that hanging on the wall. :yike:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: 270Shooter on March 03, 2009, 09:51:12 PM
Wow. Thanks for posting that. I have been wanting to see it.  :yike: :yike: :yike: That is one huge benchleg for sure.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: mossback91 on March 03, 2009, 09:52:37 PM
thats a baby buck........I bet it still had milk on its lips huh
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 03, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
Yeah 270, thats the buck that I was trying to track down a picture for you. Man alive. I can't even imagine.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: bowhuntin on March 03, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
That is a huge deer. Look at the mass on that thing.  :o
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 03, 2009, 10:32:32 PM
Wow.  Once again, I've gotta say, this site has really opened my eyes to what is running around out there in this state...
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: MuleySniper on March 03, 2009, 10:39:54 PM
Man that rez buck is a stud! :yike:
MS
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on March 04, 2009, 10:25:10 AM
I would have to disagree 100% with the above statement, not about the picture because I haven't seen it, but the idea that anywhere around Yakima doesn't have the genetics to produce that big of deer. What about that 219" buck killed on the Rez like 3 or 4 years ago? In my understanding that buck was killed north of glenwood, close to Klickitat Meadows. If you hunt in the uppermost part of the Cowiche Unit, you are on the other side of the Meadows. That buck wasn't a pure muley, not even close. The genetics are there, somewhere, not in great amounts but there is the possibility, but they don't get the age required to get that big.


Rez buck

Holy  :yike:  That thing is massive.  Wow.  OMG I did not think that there was anything like that running around in our state.  They should have taken that to the sportsmans show. 
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: huntnphool on March 04, 2009, 10:33:13 AM
One hell of a buck Yak
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 04, 2009, 12:10:51 PM
I would have to disagree 100% with the above statement, not about the picture because I haven't seen it, but the idea that anywhere around Yakima doesn't have the genetics to produce that big of deer. What about that 219" buck killed on the Rez like 3 or 4 years ago? In my understanding that buck was killed north of glenwood, close to Klickitat Meadows. If you hunt in the uppermost part of the Cowiche Unit, you are on the other side of the Meadows. That buck wasn't a pure muley, not even close. The genetics are there, somewhere, not in great amounts but there is the possibility, but they don't get the age required to get that big.


Rez buck

Holy  :yike:  That thing is massive.  Wow.  OMG I did not think that there was anything like that running around in our state.  They should have taken that to the sportsmans show. 


With the publicity and shame that the Whitefoot's bring to the tribe most tribal members don't bring any antlers to the show most don't care what they score I don't I have never taken anything to the show I have never had anything scored, (I have and would kill a trophy again if I had a chance it would be bigger than the low 300s) I have seen some big boys come off the rez. The big rez buck was at the show last year just not at the antler display.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: rezboy on March 04, 2009, 12:26:23 PM
I would have let him walk.  Just a baby yet.  LOL!   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 04, 2009, 05:47:23 PM
I would have to disagree 100% with the above statement, not about the picture because I haven't seen it, but the idea that anywhere around Yakima doesn't have the genetics to produce that big of deer. What about that 219" buck killed on the Rez like 3 or 4 years ago? In my understanding that buck was killed north of glenwood, close to Klickitat Meadows. If you hunt in the uppermost part of the Cowiche Unit, you are on the other side of the Meadows. That buck wasn't a pure muley, not even close. The genetics are there, somewhere, not in great amounts but there is the possibility, but they don't get the age required to get that big.

There's actually a lesson here for the rest of us (or at least for WDFW).  The rez produces some big bucks because they can shoot either does or bucks and the buck/doe ratio is very good.  I remember my stepdad killing some bruisers on the Spokane Rez.  He used to say that they got that big because most people were driving the roads and killing the does and yearlings.  If a deer is smart enough to find a hole he can survive almost unharrassed for years.

Rez buck

Holy  :yike:  That thing is massive.  Wow.  OMG I did not think that there was anything like that running around in our state.  They should have taken that to the sportsmans show. 


With the publicity and shame that the Whitefoot's bring to the tribe most tribal members don't bring any antlers to the show most don't care what they score I don't I have never taken anything to the show I have never had anything scored, (I have and would kill a trophy again if I had a chance it would be bigger than the low 300s) I have seen some big boys come off the rez. The big rez buck was at the show last year just not at the antler display.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: colockumelk on March 04, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
YAK you shot that thing.  Wow if so.  (note instead of kneel suckers it should say We're not worthy)

 :kneel:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Red Dawg on March 04, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
wow yak that is an incredible animal. congrats on the great kill.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on March 04, 2009, 06:10:40 PM
hey guys, was that net or gross on the double droptine entiat buck???

thanks
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 04, 2009, 06:20:04 PM
YAK you shot that thing.  Wow if so.  (note instead of kneel suckers it should say We're not worthy)

 :kneel:

I can not put claim to that monster a good friend of mine with all the luck got him. People were just talking about the buck so I thought I would show them.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 04, 2009, 07:07:58 PM
With the publicity and shame that the Whitefoot's bring to the tribe most tribal members don't bring any antlers to the show most don't care what they score I don't I have never taken anything to the show I have never had anything scored, (I have and would kill a trophy again if I had a chance it would be bigger than the low 300s) I have seen some big boys come off the rez. The big rez buck was at the show last year just not at the antler display.
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I like that, Yak. Great perspective. Tribal member or non-tribal member, I think not caring about the score is one of the best philosophies to have. Granted I can get caught up in the score talk too. Like most though, I don't hunt for the score. Oh and the Whitefoot bulls this year at the show, classic, hair burned off the skulls. But I don't want to talk about that because on this site it always gets negative. Still cannot get over that buck. Tell your buddy congrats x 1000.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jake on March 04, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
i tell you what im not holding my breath for a 300" deer off the rez, if tribal members dont care the scores of the deer they shoot then why kill bucks? why not hunt for meat and shoot does or young bucks that would taste much better?
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 04, 2009, 08:40:28 PM
i tell you what im not holding my breath for a 300" deer off the rez, if tribal members dont care the scores of the deer they shoot then why kill bucks? why not hunt for meat and shoot does or young bucks that would taste much better?

Most tribal members would be happy harvesting anything doe or buck same with non tribal but there are many that have read all the hype of big horns and big scores I read many hunting magazines and I don't see much that talk about doe's being harvested  people are competitive it is natural, the way all the articles read bigger is better you cant help but to fall into the circle, I am also at fault for this I would not pass a true trophy. It may not be morally correct but sadly  hunting and fishing has turned into some what of a egotistical sport.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 04, 2009, 09:10:47 PM
Jake, should that philosophy carry over to nontribal members too? If you don't care about scores, only hunt does? I think we all have an innate fascination with antlers. Killing bucks and not caring about the score are two different things. I don't really care about scores as all of my bucks aren't big at all, but that doesn't mean I should just go hunt only does. I like hunting bucks, I like antlers. Something about headgear gets at us.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 04, 2009, 09:43:47 PM
I noticed that a post I made earlier didn't come through the way that I meant it (I accidentally typed it in the middle of the quote I was referring to.
I know the rez has a lot of big bucks, and there is a reason for that.  A lot of it has to do with the high buck to doe ratios on the rez.  My stepdad was a Spokane and he killed some real bruisers there because he got off the roads and hunted hard.  He said that there were such big bucks there because most people hunted the roads and killed a lot of does and yearlings.  Basically more opportunity for deer to get into the older age classes if they were smart enough to find a hidey-hole off the roads.  I think there is some unintentional trophy management of the rez herds.  Killing all those does leaves healthy buck-to-doe ratios...
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: jake on March 04, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
what month was that big rez buck in the picture killed?
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: fishunt247 on March 04, 2009, 10:28:16 PM
I want to say November, but Yak is going to have to answer that one.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 04, 2009, 10:33:23 PM
Late Oct early Nov
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 05, 2009, 06:39:24 AM
I need to send an apology out for my priviest comments to the Whitefoot's they have some good people and ethical hunters in the family I combined them into the same, as some are doing with tribal members.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 05, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Another Pic
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: klickman on March 23, 2009, 06:52:12 PM
Wow that is a hell of a buck
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: bowhunterforever on March 23, 2009, 07:03:06 PM
That buck is a tank yak! :drool: Crazy mass! :drool:
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: littlebuf on March 23, 2009, 07:17:30 PM
i sure hope he did a head mount on that thing and not just a European. that deer deserves a proper mount, not knocking euro mounts but a deer like that....
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Yak-NDN on March 23, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
Pizer Taxidermy has it I think they did a full body.
Title: Re: Nile 08 buck????
Post by: Goldeneye on April 04, 2009, 09:17:49 PM
THATS A REALLY GREAT BUCK

SORRY GUYS, JUST WANNA UP MY POST COUNT UNTIL I HIT THE 50 MARK.  :hello:


 :yeah:  Darn fine buck as well!
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