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Title: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 13, 2017, 05:52:01 AM
Doing a WCO damage job caught this beaver with some sort of tag hooked to his ear any ideas what it is ? Sent pics to my local game warden and he's looking into it

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Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: lokidog on July 13, 2017, 06:34:07 AM
 Looks like the tags that I put into the Rockfish that I catch incidentally.  I would guess it is a problem beaver that was moved from somewhere.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 13, 2017, 06:47:57 AM
I'm pretty sure it's a piercing. Did you trap that beaver in King Co.? Pretty common there.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Old Man Yager on July 13, 2017, 07:00:51 AM
I haven't personally seen one, but I hear that it's pretty common now a days to get your Beaver pierced.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 13, 2017, 09:01:04 AM
Is that some kind of RFID tag or can you read a number?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: lokidog on July 13, 2017, 09:05:41 AM
Looks like it just a spaghetti tag.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 13, 2017, 09:09:31 AM
No numbers or anything on it and it's " illegal " to relocate them on the westside
Loki what is a spaghetti tag ?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: 2MANY on July 13, 2017, 09:12:04 AM
Surprised it's not shaved.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 13, 2017, 09:12:18 AM
No numbers or anything on it and it's " illegal " to relocate them on the westside

Isn't it illegal to release into the wild any animal you've trapped?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Practical Approach on July 13, 2017, 09:16:57 AM
Where did you catch it?  It is no longer illegal to relocate beavers on the westside.  New legislation passed this past session. 
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: lokidog on July 13, 2017, 09:44:38 AM

Loki what is a spaghetti tag ?

Just a stiff plastic tag that can be color coded or have writing on it to tell you who to contact. It looks like a piece of spaghetti. It will have a Thin 'T' on the end that goes through the skin and then turns to prevent backing out, like a clothing tag.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 13, 2017, 04:58:27 PM
From a LEO

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Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Tbar on July 13, 2017, 06:08:23 PM
HB1257 changed that.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Tbar on July 13, 2017, 06:10:36 PM
Where did you catch it?  It is no longer illegal to relocate beavers on the westside.  New legislation passed this past session.
:yeah:
Let that LEO know she was wrong.  Huntwa said so.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: UrbanTrapper on July 13, 2017, 07:47:41 PM
OK this is important.  Are there any WDFW Enforcement (Game Wardens) on here that can confirm and elaborate on this? If not yet this would be a great topic for a WDFW person to brief us on at the Rendezvous.

1. If we can relocate beavers, do we still need a permit to do it?
2. Where does WDFW want beaver relocated to?
3. Are there any areas that WDFW or WSTA assess NEEDS beaver right now?
4.  If anyone on the East-side is actually willing to PAY for live beaver transplants can we accept any compensation for the service of transplanting them?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Cylvertip on July 13, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
I think there was an article in the Everett Herald a while back about USFS working with some group releasing beavers in drainages up that way.  They were putting them in places where none existed to try to establish them.   Guessing the areas they chose where uninhabited for a reason and the critters headed down stream to more friendly environments...  I might have even seen in on here when someone posted it, can't remember.  It was commicle.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 13, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
Yes beaver northwest and the tulalip tribe have been doing it on the snohomish and skykomish river systems  . I've been on the phone today
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Tbar on July 13, 2017, 09:36:32 PM
Glad you solved they mystery of the pierced beaver! Who is beaver northwest? Same as wolf northwest?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 13, 2017, 10:38:27 PM
Floy T-bar Tag, also known as a spaghetti tag. Pretty common fish or wildlife tag used for different purposes. Kind of surprised it was not marked with some type of identifier, they are readily available in many colors with any wording or sequential numbering you want. We used hundreds a year for different mark recapture projects.
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 14, 2017, 05:33:19 AM
Glad you solved they mystery of the pierced beaver! Who is beaver northwest? Same as wolf northwest?
quick google search 
http://www.beaversnw.org/

"Ben Dittbrenner is a co-founder of Beavers Northwest; he has been the organization’s Executive Director since inception. Ben holds an MS in Biodiversity, Conservation, and Policy from the University at Albany, and BS degrees in Biology, and Environmental Science and Conservation from the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. He currently is a PhD candidate in Aquatic Ecology at the University of Washington, School of Environmental and Forest Sciences. His research there focuses on exploring non-traditional approaches to promote habitat enhancement and maintenance, increase ecosystem resilience, and reduced effects of climate change on riparian systems at multiple scales. He co-manages the Sky Beaver Project, which seeks to relocate beavers from areas where human-beaver conflicts would normally result in euthanization of the beaver to headwater riparian systems. The project assess how beaver dams and networks of beaver dams modify measures of stream water quantity and timing, such as residence time, base flow, hyporheic lateral flow, and stream temperature. ​Ben has managed beavers and worked with landowners to reduce conflict in a number of capacities for over 10 years. He is passionate about environmental education, creating opportunities for emerging ecologists, and providing landowners with realistic options to enable them to coexist with wildlife."

Would like to know where this 2nd chance nuisance beaver came from.  Seems odd that it was tagged without a trackable identification number. 
Any info on where it came from, when/where it was released and what the end goal was?  Are they just turning them loose on someone else?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: borntoslay on July 16, 2017, 12:57:56 PM
Never seen so much mystique surrounding a beaver. This is what legends are made of boys

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Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 17, 2017, 07:27:53 PM
Got her boyfriend today
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Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Tbar on July 17, 2017, 07:37:49 PM
Ear tag?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 17, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
Ear tag?
. Yep same spaghetti tag in right ear
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 18, 2017, 06:02:16 AM
Getting it done!
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: Kit Carson on July 18, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
Nice job Jake!  :tup:
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 18, 2017, 11:33:08 AM
Where did you catch it?  It is no longer illegal to relocate beavers on the westside.  New legislation passed this past session.
:yeah:
Let that LEO know she was wrong.  Huntwa said so.  :chuckle:

I actually just asked the question. Isn't that what this forum's for - gaining knowledge?
Title: Re: Beaver with tag in ear
Post by: JakeLand on July 18, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Yes and no about relocating beaver on the westside
Yes by permit ONLY from game department
NO is the more then Likely answer you will get for relocation on the westside
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