Post by: kball4 on July 21, 2017, 09:55:12 AM
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 21, 2017, 10:09:04 AM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on July 21, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
Post by: chuck270 on July 21, 2017, 11:20:19 AM
I am currently running a 2011 RAM 3500, 6.7 with some deletes, 105,000 miles and other than fluid changes and tires I haven't spent a dime on it, not even break pads. Other people experiences may be different.
I wouldn't get hung up on having to add DEF every 5000 miles or so. I think the increased stock power and fuel economy even out the expense of the DEF or that is what I have been lead to believe. :twocents:
Post by: 2MANY on July 21, 2017, 11:58:52 AM
There are reasons why and it ain't because they are cheaper.
I just sold my 2010 6.4 F-350 with 250,000 miles on it.
It never broke.
Bought a new one in a 2017 without sitting in the cab or driving one.
They are straight up awesome.
I pull a 6 horse goose-neck and it roars over all the mountain passes from here to Salmon Idaho at normal driving speed.
The only problem I have with it is the truck and myself are both here in this armpit of a state.
Can't wait till it heads to the Rockies for good.
Go buy the truck you already know you want.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 21, 2017, 12:03:23 PM
Ford out sells Dodge and Chevy by a country mile.
There are reasons why and it ain't because they are cheaper.
I just sold my 2010 6.4 F-350 with 250,000 miles on it.
It never broke.
Bought a new one in a 2017 without sitting in the cab or driving one.
They are straight up awesome.
I pull a 6 horse goose-neck and it roars over all the mountain passes from here to Salmon Idaho at normal driving speed.
The only problem I have with it is the truck and myself are both here in this armpit of a state.
Can't wait till it heads to the Rockies for good.
Go buy the truck you already know you want.
This is so uncommon, for Ford's.
Post by: bhawley76 on July 21, 2017, 12:13:21 PM
Post by: kball4 on July 21, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
Post by: dyhardhuntr on July 21, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
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Post by: rtspring on July 21, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
I'd walk before I drove a Chevy and Dodge just doesn't do it for me. The DEF deal you just get used to filling every so often. Maint is key and spendy but i think its
All worth it in the end. i would not own the 6.0 or 6.4
Post by: lewy on July 21, 2017, 04:48:09 PM
Post by: Bofire on July 21, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/why-ford-gm-and-rams-truck-sales-numbers-are-all-kind-1642486291 LOL
sales numbers
Carl
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 21, 2017, 05:18:31 PM
I took the diesel plunge 2 years ago and bought a 6.7. Haven't had one issue other than the lift was done wrong, not Fords Fault. The power is awesome, fuel economy rubning 37 inch tires is great. I have a F-250 and the ride sucks off the pavement! But I truly would not own another truck out there.
I'd walk before I drove a Chevy and Dodge just doesn't do it for me. The DEF deal you just get used to filling every so often. Maint is key and spendy but i think its
All worth it in the end. i would not own the 6.0 or 6.4
Rides like a cloud in pavement, I know, it put me to sleep after a long day of hunting. :chuckle: off road, well it's off road, who expects to ride like they're on pavement, I don't.
That's an unbiased opinion from a Mopar guy on this particular model of ford. :chuckle:
Go Dodge! :tup:
Post by: Miles on July 21, 2017, 06:31:26 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 21, 2017, 07:00:10 PM
I love my 2016 Duramax. Just hit 30,000 miles with about 8,000 of those towing 14,500 lbs of 5th wheel with zero problems. The ride and power are great.
Check back with us when it hits 60k. :yike:
Post by: 2labs on July 21, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
Post by: Miles on July 21, 2017, 07:18:11 PM
I love my 2016 Duramax. Just hit 30,000 miles with about 8,000 of those towing 14,500 lbs of 5th wheel with zero problems. The ride and power are great.
Check back with us when it hits 60k. :yike:
Lol
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 21, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
Post by: LDennis24 on July 21, 2017, 07:42:08 PM
New Diesels scare me :yike: I'll keep working on my 7.3, 250k and will pull most trucks up the pass,
Post by: LDennis24 on July 21, 2017, 07:48:03 PM
Ford out sells Dodge and Chevy by a country mile.
There are reasons why and it ain't because they are cheaper.
I just sold my 2010 6.4 F-350 with 250,000 miles on it.
It never broke.
Bought a new one in a 2017 without sitting in the cab or driving one.
They are straight up awesome.
I pull a 6 horse goose-neck and it roars over all the mountain passes from here to Salmon Idaho at normal driving speed.
The only problem I have with it is the truck and myself are both here in this armpit of a state.
Can't wait till it heads to the Rockies for good.
Go buy the truck you already know you want.
This is so uncommon, for Ford's.
Thats not true... If the right guy takes care of a diesel pickup it will last for half a million miles. It's all preference. That said, Chevy seems to put plastic parts in places where there should be metal or something stronger, like door handles and tailgates. An insurance adjuster even admitted to me one time that Chevy has the worst reputation for "normal wear and tear" and they always save money on Chevy owners claims... :yike:
Post by: Timberstalker on July 21, 2017, 07:51:58 PM
Cummins.Correct, way better than stroking!
Post by: 2labs on July 21, 2017, 08:21:36 PM
Post by: Curly on July 21, 2017, 08:22:59 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 21, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
Cummins.
Nice!
I bought a 2004 2500 Ram Cummings brand new, 180000+ miles still in love, unless it gets totaled will never need another one. :twocents:
Post by: Mudman on July 21, 2017, 08:57:48 PM
Post by: 2labs on July 21, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
Post by: 2labs on July 21, 2017, 09:17:41 PM
Post by: Crunchy on July 21, 2017, 09:32:12 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 21, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
Post by: 2labs on July 21, 2017, 10:04:22 PM
I took the plunge two months ago. Here is my new girl.
Don't lean against it! It's a beer can. Promise
Post by: hollymaster on July 21, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 21, 2017, 11:27:56 PM
I took the plunge two months ago. Here is my new girl.
Where's the 10 inch lift, 40 inch tires, 26 inch wheels l.e.d. light bar on roof and grill, blimp sized fenders and 50 decals of all the product manufacturers you bolted on your truck? :dunno:
:chuckle: joking
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 22, 2017, 05:41:28 AM
Post by: baker5150 on July 22, 2017, 07:46:33 AM
The brand will not be loyal back.
Research all 3 in various years, in the end you'll find they are problematic. Just gotta decide which problems are worth having
Post by: Fishstiq on July 22, 2017, 08:22:38 AM
Thousands of trucks deal with it every day. It's no big deal.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 23, 2017, 09:23:41 PM
Don't sweat the DEF. You can go 5K miles if you aren't towing, and 2-3K if you are towing or hauling heavy, between refills. Filling the DEF is about as tough as filling your washer fluid.
Thousands of trucks deal with it every day. It's no big deal.
limp mode...
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 23, 2017, 10:51:16 PM
Ram Tough baby! :tup:
:tup: :tup: :tup: :4w: :4w: :whoo:
Post by: cohoho on July 23, 2017, 11:52:59 PM
Post by: kball4 on July 24, 2017, 06:20:06 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 24, 2017, 06:28:52 AM
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on July 24, 2017, 07:06:06 AM
Post by: C-Money on July 24, 2017, 07:18:12 AM
Post by: 2MANY on July 24, 2017, 07:48:39 AM
So is packing with goats and Llamas.
Less is more.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 24, 2017, 08:12:45 AM
Post by: 2MANY on July 24, 2017, 09:04:36 AM
Looks challenging.
Post by: Forks on July 24, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
Post by: Special T on July 24, 2017, 10:23:02 AM
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Post by: archery288 on July 24, 2017, 10:48:39 AM
As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?
It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes. H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down. Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market. Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change. Most will just turn their heads for an oil change. But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.
I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back. If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels. I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel. If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg. I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter. In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters. Everyone has their own opinions on the brands. Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges. Each brand has their own issues.
Post by: 2MANY on July 24, 2017, 11:16:34 AM
This is the exact way my 2010 F-350 was set up.
Awesome combo especially if you let it breath better too.
The mini max is awesome and the street setting is perfect.
Post by: Encore 280 on July 24, 2017, 12:30:35 PM
Post by: baker5150 on July 24, 2017, 12:36:21 PM
As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?
It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes. H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down. Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market. Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change. Most will just turn their heads for an oil change. But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.
I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back. If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels. I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel. If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg. I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter. In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters. Everyone has their own opinions on the brands. Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges. Each brand has their own issues.
This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long.
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only" same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet.
Not sure if a factory dealer will do it. I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.
Post by: archery288 on July 24, 2017, 02:18:00 PM
As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?
It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes. H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down. Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market. Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change. Most will just turn their heads for an oil change. But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.
I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back. If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels. I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel. If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg. I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter. In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters. Everyone has their own opinions on the brands. Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges. Each brand has their own issues.
This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long.
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only" same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet.
Not sure if a factory dealer will do it. I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.
Sorry, I was thinking of factory dealers, not all shops. Should have clarified.
Post by: Curly on July 24, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
Post by: 2MANY on July 24, 2017, 02:26:51 PM
Post by: Miles on July 24, 2017, 03:46:20 PM
I believe most of the Dodge and Chevy dealers will do the chip/delete thingy because it's the only way they can run with the Ford.
I love the jokes in this thread.
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...
Post by: Machias on July 24, 2017, 04:03:27 PM
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...
I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no! No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.
Post by: cbond3318 on July 24, 2017, 04:07:31 PM
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...
I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no! No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.
:yeah: I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.
:chuckle:
Post by: Timberstalker on July 24, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 24, 2017, 04:44:48 PM
Post by: Miles on July 24, 2017, 04:49:15 PM
Post by: 2labs on July 24, 2017, 06:02:51 PM
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...
I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no! No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.
:yeah: I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.
:chuckle:
Love the guys that drive around in "pull mode" hey Cool guy, makes your truck 10 feet wide!
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 24, 2017, 07:08:08 PM
Post by: bowNarrow on July 24, 2017, 07:10:32 PM
Post by: slavenoid on July 24, 2017, 07:31:44 PM
Seems like most people go Dodge for the Cummins engine or Chevy for the Allison transmission, unless they're "Ford Guys" then they just pick a color.
Post by: MHWASH on July 24, 2017, 07:46:33 PM
Thanks for creating this entertaining thread, I've really enjoyed it.
Between myself, my dad and my hunting buddy we all drive one of the big 3. All of us are also extremely happy with our choice. When I bought mine I was looking for the best deal I could find, didn't care about the make. The only Ford I would look at was the 6.7. I ended up buying a Chevy and could not be happier. Just be sure to check them all out and try not to be brand loyal. Be sure to check out the Ford passenger floorboard. If I'm not mistaken, there is a lot lot less foot room compared to the Dodge and Chevy.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 24, 2017, 07:46:44 PM
Our Ford broke down in the middle of an intersection. Tow truck driver said 90% of the diesel trucks he tows are Ford and 10% are Chevys... So we traded in the Ford for a Ram never happier.
Seems like most people go Dodge for the Cummins engine or Chevy for the Allison transmission, unless they're "Ford Guys" then they just pick a color.
I always take advice from the Tow Truck guy when it comes to spending 70K on a truck. I bet you he was a Dodge guy like the other Dodge guys on the forum who say only Fords break down and they've never had a problem with their Dodge. hahalol... Go to the Ford Forum and tell them you're ready to buy a Dodge. You'll get tow truck driver advice.
If a Dodge mechanic tells you Dodges are the best, I'd be asking him how he has a job? :chuckle: Then, you get to make the old, "well, no mechanic just changes oil"... hahahaa
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 24, 2017, 07:51:56 PM
Post by: archery288 on July 24, 2017, 07:53:30 PM
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...
I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no! No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.
:yeah: I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.
:chuckle:
Love the guys that drive around in "pull mode" hey Cool guy, makes your truck 10 feet wide!
:chuckle: Having a Dodge, I still make fun of guys who run around with their tow mirrors out when not pulling. Keep those things folded down! Hell, even with most trailers you don't need them out. I saw a meme the other day that said the moose migration was happening and it was a bunch of Dodge owners with their tow mirrors out going down the freeway.
And deals can be had. Do you homework. I bought mine from Montana. Everyone around here wanted about $50k for the same truck. I picked mine up from a head mechanic at a dealership over there for $37k with all of the maintenance records and history. If you don't mind traveling out of state, you'll save yourself some money. I've since dumped some money in it, but I'm fine with it.
Post by: Miles on July 24, 2017, 07:53:56 PM
If you want to get something your wife will like best get a chevy. If you want something your daddy and grandpappy drove get a ford. If you just want best bang for the buck get a Ram. Not rocket science.
Lol, when my wife first saw our truck she said "wow, this is a truck".
Post by: Mark Brenckle on July 24, 2017, 09:08:30 PM
Post by: kevinlisa06 on July 24, 2017, 09:23:47 PM
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Post by: 2labs on July 24, 2017, 09:28:39 PM
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.
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2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Post by: cbond3318 on July 24, 2017, 09:36:42 PM
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.
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2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Would love to get my hands one of these! My V10 just doesn't have the poop our 5th wheel demands!
Post by: Timberstalker on July 24, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.
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2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Would love to get my hands one of these! My V10 just doesn't have the poop our 5th wheel demands!
That dodge will do it for you bond!
Post by: jackelope on July 24, 2017, 10:38:54 PM
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
Post by: jackelope on July 24, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
Dealers can't do it and shops whether they're dealerships or independent shops aren't technically supposed to work on them. Federally mandated emissions requirements. These trucks are supposed to meet a clean standard.As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?
It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes. H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down. Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market. Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change. Most will just turn their heads for an oil change. But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.
I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back. If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels. I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel. If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg. I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter. In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters. Everyone has their own opinions on the brands. Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges. Each brand has their own issues.
This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long.
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only" same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet.
Not sure if a factory dealer will do it. I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.
Sorry, I was thinking of factory dealers, not all shops. Should have clarified.
As stated earlier in this thread the dodges didn't need DEF system until later on because they had enough emissions control stuff on their trucks they could keep them clean enough to meet standards without having to switch to DEF system.
Post by: bearpaw on July 24, 2017, 11:01:26 PM
I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
:chuckle: These topics are always entertaining!
Post by: cbond3318 on July 24, 2017, 11:20:35 PM
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.
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2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Would love to get my hands one of these! My V10 just doesn't have the poop our 5th wheel demands!
That dodge will do it for you bond!
Ew. :puke:
Post by: Romulus1297 on July 24, 2017, 11:44:57 PM
Post by: PolarBear on July 25, 2017, 12:32:22 AM
1997 F350, 7.3 paid for, 230,000 miles and so far only a cam sensor, alternator and ball joints. Still out pulls all my friends with chebby's and dodges and still have people begging to buy it from me. I get car sick riding in my fishing' buddies brand new Dodge. The damn thing rides like an old Monte Carlo with a pallet of cinder blocks in the trunk. :chuckle:
2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Post by: kball4 on July 25, 2017, 06:42:21 AM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on July 25, 2017, 06:56:06 AM
That's for sure, I hate taking my truck anywhere empty.1997 F350, 7.3 paid for, 230,000 miles and so far only a cam sensor, alternator and ball joints. Still out pulls all my friends with chebby's and dodges and still have people begging to buy it from me. I get car sick riding in my fishing' buddies brand new Dodge. The damn thing rides like an old Monte Carlo with a pallet of cinder blocks in the trunk. :chuckle:
2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Post by: kevinlisa06 on July 25, 2017, 03:09:13 PM
I do have to drop it into 4th heading up the pass heading to Elk camp due to the 5th wheel being heavy loaded up. And the fact that the dodge clutch is a weak linkI'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.
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2000 7.3 paid for and no monkey biz under the hood :tup:
Would love to get my hands one of these! My V10 just doesn't have the poop our 5th wheel demands!
That dodge will do it for you bond!
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Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2017, 10:08:37 AM
I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
So you sell unnecessary work? :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2017, 04:40:58 PM
I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
So you sell unnecessary work? :chuckle:
Fords break a lot more than Dodges did....I'll tell you that with 100% certainty. Now granted, it might have to do with the fact that there are a lot more Fords serving commercial purposes than Dodges, but holy crap they break a lot and they're not cheap to fix.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
So you sell unnecessary work? :chuckle:
Fords break a lot more than Dodges did....I'll tell you that with 100% certainty. Now granted, it might have to do with the fact that there are a lot more Fords serving commercial purposes than Dodges, but holy crap they break a lot and they're not cheap to fix.
@2MANY - you heard it here.
Post by: Miles on July 26, 2017, 06:40:34 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2017, 06:42:43 PM
The Duramax is hooked up and ready for another 5th wheel pull tomorrow morning.
You're in my prayers, Miles.
Post by: Miles on July 26, 2017, 06:50:23 PM
The Duramax is hooked up and ready for another 5th wheel pull tomorrow morning.
You're in my prayers, Miles.
When your pulling 41' of trailer, prayers are always welcome. I'm just happy to have picked a truck that can handle it. ;)Lol
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2017, 06:59:56 PM
:tup:
Post by: Mudman on July 26, 2017, 07:55:52 PM
Post by: MHWASH on July 26, 2017, 07:56:36 PM
The Duramax is hooked up and ready for another 5th wheel pull tomorrow morning.
You're in my prayers, Miles.
Timberstalker,
What pickup do you drive and what do you pull with it?
Post by: raydog on July 26, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 26, 2017, 08:09:46 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2017, 08:34:19 PM
The Duramax is hooked up and ready for another 5th wheel pull tomorrow morning.
Hope you borrowed some mirrors off a Dodge so you can focus the sun rays from the next time zone to your solar panels
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
The Duramax is hooked up and ready for another 5th wheel pull tomorrow morning.
You're in my prayers, Miles.
Timberstalker,
What pickup do you drive and what do you pull with it?
@MHWASH
A 2014 Ram Cummins.
I pull a CAT 308c excavator regularly. That's a 17730# machine.
Post by: MHWASH on July 26, 2017, 09:51:07 PM
The Duramax is hooked up and ready for another 5th wheel pull tomorrow morning.
Thanks, that quantifies your opinions, although your wrong :chuckle:
You're in my prayers, Miles.
Timberstalker,
What pickup do you drive and what do you pull with it?
@MHWASH
A 2014 Ram Cummins.
I pull a CAT 308c excavator regularly. That's a 17730# machine.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
Post by: MHWASH on July 27, 2017, 05:33:45 AM
My original response got buried in all the quotes. :rolleyes:
Post by: Miles on July 27, 2017, 06:24:49 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 27, 2017, 06:52:58 AM
Just kidding. Nice setup Miles!
Post by: kball4 on July 27, 2017, 07:12:41 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2017, 08:30:21 AM
The duramax/allison is a proven combo, the chevy interior is what turns me away.
What's wrong with the Chevy interior?
They're 100x nicer than any Dodge. The newer Fords are pretty nice I guess.
It's all personal preference, I get that.
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2017, 08:32:31 AM
:)
Is that your new backcountry rig?
Post by: Timberstalker on July 27, 2017, 08:34:45 AM
The duramax/allison is a proven combo, the chevy interior is what turns me away.
They're 100x nicer than any Dodge.
Is this alcohol induced?!?!?!? :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2017, 08:35:40 AM
The duramax/allison is a proven combo, the chevy interior is what turns me away.
They're 100x nicer than any Dodge.
Is this alcohol induced?!?!?!? :chuckle:
Chevy induced.
:sry:
Post by: baker5150 on July 27, 2017, 08:38:36 AM
I still think GM and then Ford have more comfortable seats.
My 06 Dodge seats leave a ton to be desired.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 27, 2017, 08:40:01 AM
Post by: bearpaw on July 27, 2017, 09:24:34 AM
I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
So you sell unnecessary work? :chuckle:
Fords break a lot more than Dodges did....I'll tell you that with 100% certainty. Now granted, it might have to do with the fact that there are a lot more Fords serving commercial purposes than Dodges, but holy crap they break a lot and they're not cheap to fix.
I own both and see good and bad with both. I like both and dislike both for certain reasons! :chuckle:
Do you think the Fords break more often due to having more bells and whistles to go wrong or is it the meat and potatoes mechanical items like motors, tranny, and steering that break more often?
I'm also wondering if you think it's newer models that break more often?
Do you see more older Fords breaking more often too?
Post by: TheHunt on July 27, 2017, 09:30:26 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html)
Post by: bearpaw on July 27, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
Not to hijack this thread but we all might only have diesel rigs in 2040 as the US seams to be a follower on these movements. UK is planning on banning all gas cars by 2040.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html)
The eco crowd wants to ban all fossil fuel engines and go to electric, but they don't know where all the electricity is coming from or how the electric grids can handle the demand! It's pretty safe to buy a vehicle that uses gas or diesel.
There are a lot more diesels in many other countries because they get much better mileage. It seems funny when you compare fuel mileage and longevity why there aren't more diesels and why gas engines are so popular in the US.
Post by: baker5150 on July 27, 2017, 10:18:21 AM
Not to hijack this thread but we all might only have diesel rigs in 2040 as the US seams to be a follower on these movements. UK is planning on banning all gas cars by 2040.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html)
The eco crowd wants to ban all fossil fuel engines and go to electric, but they don't know where all the electricity is coming from or how the electric grids can handle the demand! It's pretty safe to buy a vehicle that uses gas or diesel.
There are a lot more diesels in many other countries because they get much better mileage. It seems funny when you compare fuel mileage and longevity why there aren't more diesels and why gas engines are so popular in the US.
It all comes down to the emissions standards here, hence the VW TDI scandal.
Post by: Mark Brenckle on July 27, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
Mine was the turbo (had to do it twice because they tried to re-use a gasket), the exhaust manifold and some sensor. They had to replace at least one of the large bolts that hold the cab on each time they took it off. The extended warranty that I thought was overpriced paid for itself x3.I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
Keep on buying them Ford's, folks.
So you sell unnecessary work? :chuckle:
Fords break a lot more than Dodges did....I'll tell you that with 100% certainty. Now granted, it might have to do with the fact that there are a lot more Fords serving commercial purposes than Dodges, but holy crap they break a lot and they're not cheap to fix.
I own both and see good and bad with both. I like both and dislike both for certain reasons! :chuckle:
Do you think the Fords break more often due to having more bells and whistles to go wrong or is it the meat and potatoes mechanical items like motors, tranny, and steering that break more often?
I'm also wondering if you think it's newer models that break more often?
Do you see more older Fords breaking more often too?
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 27, 2017, 11:57:30 AM
Post by: Miles on July 27, 2017, 12:40:18 PM
:)
Is that your new backcountry rig?
I figure I can at least plug up a lot of trailhead parking with it.
It's more for traveling with the wife...
Post by: Miles on July 27, 2017, 12:46:23 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 27, 2017, 12:47:50 PM
I thought of this thread today as we passed a dodge hooked to a 5th wheel parked on the roadside with the hood up and flashers on. Lol. Made it to Texas with zero issues. Thanks for the prayers Timberstalker.
Talk about Jekyl and Hyde. LMAO. Glad you made it.
Post by: Miles on July 27, 2017, 12:52:26 PM
I thought of this thread today as we passed a dodge hooked to a 5th wheel parked on the roadside with the hood up and flashers on. Lol. Made it to Texas with zero issues. Thanks for the prayers Timberstalker.
Talk about Jekyl and Hyde. LMAO. Glad you made it.
Thanks. I wanted to get a picture of it, but I couldn't get my phone out in time. I like to give dodges a hard time, but honestly we did consider them when looking to get a diesel. We drove both and I just liked the Chevrolet better.
Post by: huntnphool on July 27, 2017, 12:58:14 PM
Post by: Miles on July 27, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Post by: 2labs on July 27, 2017, 03:18:03 PM
I'm just about to the 1/2 million mile mark with my Excursion (7.3) :tup:
Quarter of a million on the f-350. Just maintaince stuff.
Post by: 2MANY on July 27, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
I'm just about to the 1/2 million mile mark with my Excursion (7.3) :tup:
Quarter of a million on the f-350. Just maintaince stuff.
Quarter mil here on 6.4 as well.
350,000 on 7.3 before that.
A Chevy boy would have bought 4 trucks in that time frame.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 27, 2017, 03:42:56 PM
Post by: Special T on July 27, 2017, 05:24:35 PM
Dodge interiors have come a long way in the 4th Gen models.I've rebuilt the seats in my 03 &05 purchased new Foam from a dealership online for about a C note each. Imo the key lies in 2 things. You need a piece of thin rubber belting or something like it to ride on top of the wires to prevent them from chewing into the foam.
I still think GM and then Ford have more comfortable seats.
My 06 Dodge seats leave a ton to be desired.
Second when you need a file and ball Pien Hammer to round the sharp wedges and such on the Bucket portion of the frame. This really helps prevent the breakdown of the seat.
Lastly I like a cushion to drop into the lowest part of the Bucket seat because it pinches my sciatic nerves on my hips on long drives, even after the rebuild.
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Post by: Mudman on July 27, 2017, 06:13:05 PM
Post by: baker5150 on July 27, 2017, 06:28:56 PM
Dodge interiors have come a long way in the 4th Gen models.I've rebuilt the seats in my 03 &05 purchased new Foam from a dealership online for about a C note each. Imo the key lies in 2 things. You need a piece of thin rubber belting or something like it to ride on top of the wires to prevent them from chewing into the foam.
I still think GM and then Ford have more comfortable seats.
My 06 Dodge seats leave a ton to be desired.
Second when you need a file and ball Pien Hammer to round the sharp wedges and such on the Bucket portion of the frame. This really helps prevent the breakdown of the seat.
Lastly I like a cushion to drop into the lowest part of the Bucket seat because it pinches my sciatic nerves on my hips on long drives, even after the rebuild.
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I tore the cloth out of my 06 and put aftermarket leather in with seat heaters. Now I need need foam on the driver, it isn't terrible but wearing. Thanks for tips I'll have to give them a try.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on July 27, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
I'm just about to the 1/2 million mile mark with my Excursion (7.3) :tup:
Quarter of a million on the f-350. Just maintaince stuff.
Quarter mil here on 6.4 as well.
350,000 on 7.3 before that.
A Chevy boy would have bought 4 trucks in that time frame.
Geez we got 3 suburbans with 200,000 miles on em with nary a hiccup...... dunno what that works out to in (iths) of millions, but I'm guessing a guy could rebuild a few 6 liter Chevrolets for "1" diesel of any flavor....
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 28, 2017, 10:26:09 PM
I'm just about to the 1/2 million mile mark with my Excursion (7.3) :tup:
Quarter of a million on the f-350. Just maintaince stuff.
Quarter mil here on 6.4 as well.
350,000 on 7.3 before that.
A Chevy boy would have bought 4 trucks in that time frame.
Geez we got 3 suburbans with 200,000 miles on em with nary a hiccup...... dunno what that works out to in (iths) of millions, but I'm guessing a guy could rebuild a few 6 liter Chevrolets for "1" diesel of any flavor....
6L Chevy is ok but, pulling a 24' trailer with one to Montana and back 6 times doing 45mph up all the passes kinda sucked and at 45mph keeping it humming at a pretty high rpm kinda makes a guy weary in the summertime. My 7.3L PSD turning 2400rpm doesn't even feel like its working hard pulling the same trailer and engine temps never budge. Not to mention F-350 brakes kick ass over Chevy and Dodge. Chevy brakes suck bad
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 29, 2017, 07:26:41 AM
Not to hijack this thread but we all might only have diesel rigs in 2040 as the US seams to be a follower on these movements. UK is planning on banning all gas cars by 2040.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/europe/uk-diesel-petrol-emissions.html)
I'll would be 72 in 2040 if I live that long, gas engines aren't going away in my lifetime. I'm no engineer, but common sense tells me that gas engines will be here as long as the black stuff keeps coming from the earth. :chuckle:
Post by: Mudman on July 29, 2017, 07:49:28 AM
Post by: bearpaw on August 01, 2017, 03:51:07 PM
I'm just about to the 1/2 million mile mark with my Excursion (7.3) :tup:
Quarter of a million on the f-350. Just maintaince stuff.
Quarter mil here on 6.4 as well.
350,000 on 7.3 before that.
A Chevy boy would have bought 4 trucks in that time frame.
Geez we got 3 suburbans with 200,000 miles on em with nary a hiccup...... dunno what that works out to in (iths) of millions, but I'm guessing a guy could rebuild a few 6 liter Chevrolets for "1" diesel of any flavor....
6L Chevy is ok but, pulling a 24' trailer with one to Montana and back 6 times doing 45mph up all the passes kinda sucked and at 45mph keeping it humming at a pretty high rpm kinda makes a guy weary in the summertime. My 7.3L PSD turning 2400rpm doesn't even feel like its working hard pulling the same trailer and engine temps never budge. Not to mention F-350 brakes kick ass over Chevy and Dodge. Chevy brakes suck bad
Interesting, I've got a 7.3 F-350 and a Dodge 2500 with the 5.9 Cummins. In my experience the dodge will out-pull and stop faster and get better mileage than the ford with the exact same loaded trailer. But the weight of the Ford makes it more solid going down the road and it is a more comfortable ride to me. I see pluses and minuses in both rigs. :dunno:
Post by: Mudman on August 01, 2017, 03:58:24 PM
Post by: baker5150 on August 01, 2017, 04:04:22 PM
:yeah: My 01 did keep cooler on long pulls up hill. Ride was better towing but it was a longbed. The bigger turbo on 7.3 moves a lot of air at lower boost #'s. Now both my 5.9 out power and pull the old ford by a large amount. Granted the engine is few years newer and rated higher hp. I really liked the 01 f350 7.3, if it was a stick shaker I might still have it. The new cummins (2006) is a manual and I am in love. After clutch upgrade and EFI tune I will be set for long time to come. NO more auto trans for this guy :bash:.
That's one thing I wish I could change with my 06 Cummins, is the fan. Someone needs to write a tune for cooling fan speed adjustment. With the heat exchanger on the side of the block and engine temps climbing it can really heat up the trans fluid on the auto's. As soon as that fan clutch locks the engine temp plummets, but the trans temp can take a while to drop, even with the TC clutch locked up. Sucks when pulling steep and slow. Should have bought a manual :bash:
Post by: Mudman on August 01, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
Post by: baker5150 on August 01, 2017, 04:14:22 PM
Baker, read this it might give some ideas! https://www.turbodieselregister.com/threads/130221-Manual-override-for-fan-clutch I always put my auto in 4 lo on gravel roads and slow speeds which helps as long as you do it before it heats up. You prolly know this by now. :chuckle: My ford and dodge auto would get hot trans at slow speeds as well.
You the man Mudman. Been looking for something like this for a while. :tup:
Post by: jackelope on August 01, 2017, 04:58:16 PM
I'm just about to the 1/2 million mile mark with my Excursion (7.3) :tup:
Quarter of a million on the f-350. Just maintaince stuff.
Quarter mil here on 6.4 as well.
350,000 on 7.3 before that.
A Chevy boy would have bought 4 trucks in that time frame.
Your 6.4 experience is the exception, not the norm. Hopefully you knocked on wood after you posted that.
Just checked this guy in. I'll update tomorrow.
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