Post by: jjhunter on August 23, 2017, 02:08:35 PM
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on August 23, 2017, 02:42:40 PM
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Post by: 2MANY on August 23, 2017, 03:24:24 PM
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Post by: Mr Mykiss on August 24, 2017, 05:20:03 AM
Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
Post by: meatwhack on August 24, 2017, 10:50:53 AM
Post by: lord grizzly on August 24, 2017, 10:52:55 AM
Post by: Apples on August 24, 2017, 11:00:30 AM
Post by: theleo on August 24, 2017, 11:13:26 AM
If ID were as bad as WA I'd have a $300 deer tag in my pocket rite now that I really wouldn't care about filling. As is, I struck out on both deer draws and I'm out $30 instead. They're getting $980 from me this year between apps, antelope tag, and an elk tag. I'm really thankful their system doesn't require me to pay the tag price before I apply.Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
Post by: 2MANY on August 24, 2017, 11:17:02 AM
You can't put a price tag on a good time right???
I will be paying for 3 non resident licenses and all the tags this year.
Perhaps a couple 2nd tags too.?
Same 3 folks hunting in WA too.
Let the games begin. :)
Post by: lord grizzly on August 24, 2017, 11:24:50 AM
If ID were as bad as WA I'd have a $300 deer tag in my pocket rite now that I really wouldn't care about filling. As is, I struck out on both deer draws and I'm out $30 instead. They're getting $980 from me this year between apps, antelope tag, and an elk tag. I'm really thankful their system doesn't require me to pay the tag price before I apply.Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
id personally like to see that change for non residents
Post by: theleo on August 24, 2017, 11:54:00 AM
Care to elaborate why? If it's a nonrefundable hit then you're incentivizing more out of state guys to hunt during general seasons because they now have a general tag. if it is refundable it becomes a headache having to refund thousands/millions of dollars each year. Non residents don't apply for the same tags you do except in the second drawing which odds would still be horrible if they didn't apply.If ID were as bad as WA I'd have a $300 deer tag in my pocket rite now that I really wouldn't care about filling. As is, I struck out on both deer draws and I'm out $30 instead. They're getting $980 from me this year between apps, antelope tag, and an elk tag. I'm really thankful their system doesn't require me to pay the tag price before I apply.Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
id personally like to see that change for non residents
Post by: lord grizzly on August 24, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
Care to elaborate why? If it's a nonrefundable hit then you're incentivizing more out of state guys to hunt during general seasons because they now have a general tag. if it is refundable it becomes a headache having to refund thousands/millions of dollars each year. Non residents don't apply for the same tags you do except in the second drawing which odds would still be horrible if they didn't apply.If ID were as bad as WA I'd have a $300 deer tag in my pocket rite now that I really wouldn't care about filling. As is, I struck out on both deer draws and I'm out $30 instead. They're getting $980 from me this year between apps, antelope tag, and an elk tag. I'm really thankful their system doesn't require me to pay the tag price before I apply.Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
id personally like to see that change for non residents
non residents in any state should not have the same status as residents of that state in drawings.
Post by: 2MANY on August 24, 2017, 02:42:12 PM
There is a "NON" in front of our status and we pay dearly for those 3 extra letters..
Post by: G-S on August 24, 2017, 05:38:06 PM
Post by: Chad E. on August 24, 2017, 07:31:59 PM
Actually out of state hunters are only limited to the 10% of tags in idaho in the first draw for deer elk and pronghorn. OIL and the second draw everyone is equals.Non residents are capped at 10% in the OIL draws. I agree that its fine for there to be stipulations on Non residents but given their system it's pretty hard to argue that non residents have the same status as residents
Post by: Mr Mykiss on August 25, 2017, 09:03:19 AM
Post by: theleo on August 25, 2017, 09:58:56 AM
How do I have the same status as an Idaho resident? The 10% cap across species for draw tags puts me at a firm disadvantage to residents. My antelope tag I drew I had only a 4% chance of drawing as 22 other non-residents applied for it, while residents applied for the 24 tags set aside for them with 8% odds of drawing them. The elk tag I applied for had 20 tags for non-residents (248 applied) with an 8% chance of drawing while residents applied for 200 tags with 11% odds. The deer tag I applied for was a late season tag that only sporadically is available to non-residents, this year all 10 tags went to residents, us 9 non-residents guys that applied for it had a 0% chance of drawing it. I can't find any hunt where I'm on any sort of equal footing as you.Care to elaborate why? If it's a nonrefundable hit then you're incentivizing more out of state guys to hunt during general seasons because they now have a general tag. if it is refundable it becomes a headache having to refund thousands/millions of dollars each year. Non residents don't apply for the same tags you do except in the second drawing which odds would still be horrible if they didn't apply.If ID were as bad as WA I'd have a $300 deer tag in my pocket rite now that I really wouldn't care about filling. As is, I struck out on both deer draws and I'm out $30 instead. They're getting $980 from me this year between apps, antelope tag, and an elk tag. I'm really thankful their system doesn't require me to pay the tag price before I apply.Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
id personally like to see that change for non residents
non residents in any state should not have the same status as residents of that state in drawings.
Post by: lord grizzly on August 25, 2017, 10:31:55 AM
where in the response I quoted and replied to was anything about drawing odds? the response was to application fees. they should be more for non residents regardless the stateHow do I have the same status as an Idaho resident? The 10% cap across species for draw tags puts me at a firm disadvantage to residents. My antelope tag I drew I had only a 4% chance of drawing as 22 other non-residents applied for it, while residents applied for the 24 tags set aside for them with 8% odds of drawing them. The elk tag I applied for had 20 tags for non-residents (248 applied) with an 8% chance of drawing while residents applied for 200 tags with 11% odds. The deer tag I applied for was a late season tag that only sporadically is available to non-residents, this year all 10 tags went to residents, us 9 non-residents guys that applied for it had a 0% chance of drawing it. I can't find any hunt where I'm on any sort of equal footing as you.Care to elaborate why? If it's a nonrefundable hit then you're incentivizing more out of state guys to hunt during general seasons because they now have a general tag. if it is refundable it becomes a headache having to refund thousands/millions of dollars each year. Non residents don't apply for the same tags you do except in the second drawing which odds would still be horrible if they didn't apply.If ID were as bad as WA I'd have a $300 deer tag in my pocket rite now that I really wouldn't care about filling. As is, I struck out on both deer draws and I'm out $30 instead. They're getting $980 from me this year between apps, antelope tag, and an elk tag. I'm really thankful their system doesn't require me to pay the tag price before I apply.Idaho money grab.And they got me...again.
Money grab for sure.
WA vs ID...no contest.
id personally like to see that change for non residents
non residents in any state should not have the same status as residents of that state in drawings.
Post by: theleo on August 25, 2017, 11:46:27 AM
where in the response I quoted and replied to was anything about drawing odds? the response was to application fees. they should be more for non residents regardless the stateApplication fees are more expensive for out of state people in your state and all other states I've ever looked at.
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on August 25, 2017, 12:21:04 PM
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Post by: meatwhack on August 25, 2017, 01:15:50 PM
Controlled hunt app few resident $6.25
Post by: Henrydog on August 25, 2017, 01:23:29 PM
Post by: theleo on August 25, 2017, 01:26:43 PM
Application fees aren't more expensive but buying the nonres license gets expensiveThe regs say resident apps are $6.25 while non-res are $14.75. Not that big of a financial hit for me but that still has non-res hunters paying 2x as much for each application.
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