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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: h20hunter on September 20, 2017, 11:15:14 AM

Title: Time to set up the press for the 460
Post by: h20hunter on September 20, 2017, 11:15:14 AM: Tonight I take the plunge into big bore (revolver ) reloading. I'v shot the beast out to 220 yards with a fixed 4 power Leupold scope and been reasonably able to ring the steel. My goal is to develop a load that is accurate enough to hunt and consider taking shots past 100 if conditions are favorable. Not a ton of load data out there but enough. I'll be starting with 40 gr H110 ( min to max is 38 to 42 per Hodgon ) , using mag rifle primers, and a 325 gr hp from Swift. They advertise that the bullet can expand at less than 1000 and witstand velocity up to 300 fps.

So any thoughts? Any first hand experience loading for a beast such as this?
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Post by: jamesfromseattle on September 20, 2017, 04:02:19 PM: No helpful input from me, but reading this post makes my shoulder hurt.
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Post by: h20hunter on September 20, 2017, 04:06:50 PM: Shoulders are fine....for me its the elbows! I actually had about a 10 min chat with Swift about these rounds. Great chat, good tips, and the guy did kind of chuckle at the end saying load em up, hammer back, and hang on!
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Post by: Stein on September 20, 2017, 04:15:00 PM: Yeah, I use a very similar recipe - for my 30-06.
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Post by: h20hunter on September 20, 2017, 04:18:12 PM: For example.. .factory load Hornady 200 gr 2200 fps next to a .308 win.....
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Post by: yorketransport on September 21, 2017, 05:57:34 AM: I'm anxious to see how the Seifts work for you. My 460 always shot best at max charges with the 395gr hardcast loads.

Dumping 40+ grains of H110 into any case takes some getting used to. It just seems like so much! :chuckle: it's one of the reasons I replaced my 460 with a 45-70 BFR, so that I had more powder options to get the same performance.
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Post by: h20hunter on September 21, 2017, 07:56:49 AM: I actually talked to a guy from Swift for about 15 min yesterday. I fired off a question via email thinking maybe I would get a reply, maybe not. 20 min later my phone rings. One suggestion he had was consider the 265 gr bullet simply because it gives a tiny amount of extra room for that bulky powder. Also talked about dies and what to watch for. Apparently that much seating pressure can deform the cavity of the bullet. Talked a bit about bullet creep and how i should execute the crimp. Great info and very impressive that they reached out like that.
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Post by: birddogdad on September 21, 2017, 08:58:58 AM: have you considered casting your own alloy bullets for this hand cannon?
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Post by: h20hunter on September 21, 2017, 09:03:14 AM: Nope. That is beyond my abilities at this time.
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Post by: h20hunter on September 23, 2017, 04:10:57 PM: 45 grains of H110, a 240gr hp...big kaboom. 5 loaded, safely test fired.
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Post by: Yondering on September 25, 2017, 01:00:00 PM: Quote from: yorketransport on September 21, 2017, 05:57:34 AM
I'm anxious to see how the Seifts work for you. My 460 always shot best at max charges with the 395gr hardcast loads.

Dumping 40+ grains of H110 into any case takes some getting used to. It just seems like so much! :chuckle: it's one of the reasons I replaced my 460 with a 45-70 BFR, so that I had more powder options to get the same performance.

IIRC the 200gr Hornady factory load pictured above uses 51 (or was it 52?) grains of some sort of ball powder; I'd guess something similar to H110 but don't want to assume. Basically 308-sized powder charges in a revolver. :yike:
I had to pull one of those rounds apart to measure out of curiosity; it was impressive to see all that powder pour out of the case.
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Post by: b23 on September 25, 2017, 01:26:53 PM: Quote from: h20hunter on September 23, 2017, 04:10:57 PM
45 grains of H110, a 240gr hp...big kaboom. 5 loaded, safely test fired.

Ya just gotta love these hand cannons and it makes me chuckle when I see how much powder these things eat. As a comparison of just how much these things eat, a max load in a 44mag with a 240gr bullet is only 25gr of H110. In my little 17 Hornet, a top load is 11gr H110. When I think of it like that it makes LOL. :chuckle:
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Post by: Skillet on September 26, 2017, 10:58:19 AM: These pack more punch than that full-tilt factory did you had? Still have a bunch of that 45 LC left over...
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Post by: h20hunter on September 26, 2017, 11:09:26 AM: These were minimum load and yes, more punch. After 5 I had a bit of sting in the hands. Lots of fun. Ill load another 5 and shoot at 50 yards for group this weekend.
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Post by: h20hunter on October 01, 2017, 12:09:26 PM: Well, this load rocks. 1 inch group at 50. Two hits in 4 shots on steel at 220.....bullet drop is about 12 to 14 inches. Big boom, big clang.
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Post by: Brushcrawler on October 01, 2017, 01:21:38 PM: That sounds like good fun! What length barrel are you shooting?
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Post by: h20hunter on October 01, 2017, 01:22:51 PM: 10. My misses were pretty darn close as well.
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Post by: h20hunter on October 01, 2017, 01:24:01 PM: :tup:
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Post by: Brushcrawler on October 01, 2017, 01:27:06 PM: Beautiful hand cannon!
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Post by: Stein on October 04, 2017, 07:08:57 AM: Where is the string you pull on?
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Post by: hollymaster on October 04, 2017, 07:29:30 AM: Quote from: Stein on October 04, 2017, 07:08:57 AM
Where is the string you pull on?
And the vise to hold it :chuckle:
Title: Re: Time to set up the press for the 460
Post by: 7mmfan on October 04, 2017, 07:39:18 AM: Quote from: h20hunter on September 23, 2017, 04:10:57 PM
45 grains of H110, a 240gr hp...big kaboom. 5 loaded, safely test fired.