Post by: syoungs on October 04, 2017, 10:23:13 AM
Great, I paid the money, 700$ for our group of 4, figured it was a guarenteed tag, and we were locking up access so we could have a successful hunt. Boy was I wrong.
We pulled into wyoming Saturday, after driving straight through the night. As soon as we were in sheridan I started trying to call, no answer. Luckily I already had the address. We get to her place at the time I told her we would be there to meet and go over property boundary's etc. And try to call again, she answered this time finally and was pretty flustered that we were there.
Talking to her,, I realized just how bad of a decision I had made, there was already 3-4 camps set up in her driveway, she starts telling us about all the hunters showing up, 14 hunters was my count.
We left pretty bummed out, but still hopefull.
The next morning, we show up just past daybreak, and start counting bodies, 17 people visable. On a very small section of land. We start talking to other hunters, and they are in the same boat. She told everyone it would be 1-2 groups at a time, and told everyone they were first to pay so they can access it for the opener.
It was pandimonium already, we hunted it for 1/2 a day, but after the 2nd animal I tried to stalk was shot from other hunters (shooting towards us no less), we decided it wasnt for us.
Total count was 19 hunters for the first 2 days, 8 more joined starting yesterday. The antelope are gone, way to much pressure.
So here I sit in Wyoming at the hotel, we've hit the handful of public land spots in unit 10 to no avail, it's a sea of orange. Gonna end up eating all but 2 of our groups tags I'm guessing. We've got tonight and tomorrow to try to get on something. Super disappointed we decided on this unit, based on a crooked landowners lies.
If anyone knows of any tresspass fee ranches, I would love to hear about em, if we could even get a couple more does down, to at least let a friend harvest his first big game animal, I would've ecstatic!
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 04, 2017, 10:26:16 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 04, 2017, 10:32:02 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on October 04, 2017, 10:33:02 AM
Post by: Bob33 on October 04, 2017, 11:06:12 AM
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 04, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
there is a name & # listed on WGFD for area 10 access. Will send via PM
Post by: quadrafire on October 04, 2017, 11:23:08 AM
Post by: daddysprad on October 04, 2017, 11:49:50 AM
Post by: Bob33 on October 04, 2017, 12:08:15 PM
I hunt unit 10; it took me a couple years to figure it out. There are leftover permits there every year, and it's because access is difficult.
Good luck.
Post by: Stein on October 04, 2017, 12:19:21 PM
Hit the public as hard as you can, you never know when you can scrape together a season saver.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 04, 2017, 12:52:57 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on October 04, 2017, 12:55:21 PM
This may be relevant to this thread.
Post by: syoungs on October 04, 2017, 03:20:52 PM
There's a few other Washington guys down here with us, bot sure if they are members or not here.
I'll post up the rest of the story this weekend. Pounding on public fighting the rat race now, hopefully we can come out with a few more animals.
Post by: baker5150 on October 04, 2017, 03:38:04 PM
Very revelant.
There's a few other Washington guys down here with us, bot sure if they are members or not here.
I'll post up the rest of the story this weekend. Pounding on public fighting the rat race now, hopefully we can come out with a few more animals.
Good Luck, hope you get one down.
Post by: Timberstalker on October 04, 2017, 03:39:10 PM
Best of luck to you. :tup:
Post by: whacker1 on October 04, 2017, 04:04:46 PM
Post by: Special T on October 04, 2017, 05:17:04 PM
Post by: whacker1 on October 04, 2017, 05:19:44 PM
Public shaming is the best revenge.and hopefully a way to help others avoid the same issues. once a fraud always a fraud. The internet will help keep landowners like this a little less profitable.
Post by: cbond3318 on October 04, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Post by: syoungs on October 04, 2017, 07:56:32 PM
I fully intend on public shaming of her actions when j can get to a PC to type everything out. Hopefully I can save another group the hassle and cost.
Post by: Timberstalker on October 04, 2017, 08:29:04 PM
Post by: follow maggie on October 04, 2017, 11:01:40 PM
Post by: C-Money on October 05, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 05, 2017, 07:30:57 AM
Post by: dscubame on October 05, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
Public shaming is the best revenge.
Ya that. Hit social media and forums hard for when people do searches. Put out the name and location of these dirtbags that steal folks hard earned money by misrepresentation all over the web. You will be doing others well by getting the word out.
Post by: Bob33 on October 05, 2017, 09:19:27 AM
• Have a backup plan. Relying on one landowner is risky, especially if it’s one I’ve never hunted with before or know much about. In addition to unethical landowners, there are lots of factors that could make property a poor hunting location at the time of visit.
• Do as much research as possible about the landowner. “Has anyone hunted on so and so’s property?” I’m not sure what I could have learned at that time, but perhaps I could have heard of others’ bad experiences. I would be surprised if the local game wardens haven’t heard by now from hunters of some issues on this property.
I hope the OP is able to find some critters and salvage at least a reasonable amount of satisfaction from the trip.
Post by: syoungs on October 05, 2017, 11:10:46 AM
I'm disappointed In how that part of the trip turned out.
I'm not disappointed in the fact that me and my dad are out here together hunting, I've reconnected with a friend from 2 decades ago who came on this trip and harvested his first big game animal, and another got another friend on his first out of state hunt, which at least provided one opportunity for him.
Over all hunting is not about the harvest, and this whole trip has been a success in my book.
I've got one more evening to get something done, really hoping to get a animal or 2 in front of the 2 that haven't been successful yet!
Post by: Timberstalker on October 05, 2017, 11:32:16 AM
Post by: Bob33 on October 05, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
Post by: Stein on October 05, 2017, 12:02:54 PM
For what it is worth, unless you are looking for trophy goats, there is no reason you can't do it DIY on public land. I did two trips in two different areas and by day 2 was into as many goats as I needed daily. Both areas were 0 or 1 point draws and I didn't have another hunter within sight while in the field the entire time.
Post by: Bob33 on October 05, 2017, 12:12:07 PM
Good luck! I can't believe she is on the state list, I figured you got her number of the internet somewhere. Post the Warden's number so anyone else in that same boat can call him.She is not on the state's 2017 list for doe/fawn hunting access, and was previously. :twocents:
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 05, 2017, 01:55:52 PM
Good luck! I can't believe she is on the state list, I figured you got her number of the internet somewhere. Post the Warden's number so anyone else in that same boat can call him.She is not on the state's 2017 list for doe/fawn hunting access, and was previously. :twocents:
:yike: I found her info on the WDFG website yesterday, confirmed by the OP.
Unfortunately she is still listed here https://wgfd.wyo.gov/getdoc/7f1efd4d-d966-43ef-906a-7fa14ce35eec/Hunter-Landowner-Regions.aspx
Post by: 2MANY on October 05, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 05, 2017, 02:35:00 PM
Post by: washingtonmuley on October 05, 2017, 03:29:34 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 05, 2017, 05:11:24 PM
Sure enough. Given that this has happened twice, in different years, is pretty strong evidence that she deliberately takes as many hunters as possible. Thankfully when it happened to me I had licenses in other units. I eventually filled my unit 10 licenses at De Smet.Good luck! I can't believe she is on the state list, I figured you got her number of the internet somewhere. Post the Warden's number so anyone else in that same boat can call him.She is not on the state's 2017 list for doe/fawn hunting access, and was previously. :twocents:
:yike: I found her info on the WDFG website yesterday, confirmed by the OP.
Unfortunately she is still listed here https://wgfd.wyo.gov/getdoc/7f1efd4d-d966-43ef-906a-7fa14ce35eec/Hunter-Landowner-Regions.aspx
Post by: syoungs on October 06, 2017, 09:00:27 PM
We hadn't been got hunting in 16 years, and thought paying the access fee would take a little stress out of basically our first out of state hunt. Next time I go back, it'll be 100% diy public land, and I'm positive tags will be filled.
Game department said they will most likely be removing her from their site this year, they were not happy to hear our stories, just in case they dont, I will advertise heavily what the situation was as a warning to others.
I'm confident that I have seen every public acre if unit 10, if anyone needs help down there, I will share everything I know via pm, don't want to do it publicly as it may hurt the unit even more for a few of the locals
My biggest advice, is don't go to unit 10 lol.
I'll post more in the coming days, probably on a new thread.