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Title: FOB's?
Post by: hoytem on March 02, 2009, 08:57:15 PM
Does anyone have any experience with these crazy things, they look like they work great on their website?
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Houndhunter on March 02, 2009, 09:13:54 PM
killbilly showed me bout them, they pretty cool. theres a few people on here that have used em i know
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: ICEMAN on March 02, 2009, 09:18:12 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,6283.0.html

Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: bowhunterforever on March 02, 2009, 09:20:08 PM
I have read and heard lots of good things about them! :dunno: They seem like they would be really loud cause they catch more wind the regular vanes! :twocents:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 02, 2009, 10:16:44 PM
I have been messing around with them the last few days.  I can only shoot out to 30 yds in my back yard but they seem to fly really well.  Haven't shot a broadhead with them yet but from what I have read that is where they really shine. 

I have been shooting 3 FOBbed arrows and 3 arrows with 2 inch blazers.  The Blazers fly awesome also and group really tight.  Bummer with the FOBs is you can't shoot groups.  Even though I knew that I aimed at the same spot once and broke one.    :chuckle:

I shot them over my chrono at point blank and got the same reading as the Blazers.  I am going to shoot them over the chrono out at differant ranges and see what kind of readings I get. 

They do make a little more noise but from what I have read the noise isn't noticable on the receiving end as it is coming from the back of the arrow.  I haven't verified that though.  :)

-Lowedog

Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: ICEMAN on March 03, 2009, 05:34:11 AM
Hey Lowedog, verifying the noise on the receiving end sounds sort of dangerous.  :chuckle: 
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: elkoholic on March 03, 2009, 06:55:13 AM
Ive heard good and bad things about them, I think they are kind of like blazers were in the beginning, nobody (myself included) thought you could get good flight from a tiny 2" vein, people just have to shoot-em themselves to find out. I plan on trying them just to see how they work..
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 04, 2009, 09:49:28 AM
Hey Lowedog, verifying the noise on the receiving end sounds sort of dangerous.  :chuckle: 

Ni kidding!  :chuckle:  I don't trust any of my friends enough to try it either!  :chuckle:

There are a bunch of videos on youtube about these things.  Some where guys set their camera up down range and on those I couldn't tell the differance between the FOBs and Blazers.

I'm going to do some downrange shooting this weekend and see if they lose a bunch of speed.  It has been said that  past 40 yards they really drop off comapared to Blazers.  I'll shoot some broadheads  too and compare that against the Blazers.

-Lowedog
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 04, 2009, 12:52:45 PM
From what i read and hear they are suppose to work real well.......I kind of like the fact that you just pop it back on.......no worrys of refletching.......

Will be trying some out very soon
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 05, 2009, 03:32:56 PM
It looks like a good product from what I have read you just need a fall away rest and string loop.

What I cannot find any where even on FOBnation is the accuracy with BH's at distances beyond 30 yards.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Todd_ID on March 05, 2009, 11:33:26 PM
It looks like a good product from what I have read you just need a fall away rest and string loop.

What I cannot find any where even on FOBnation is the accuracy with BH's at distances beyond 30 yards.

www.starrflight.com is the main website for FOB's.  The 100 yard video on the home page is me shooting Magnus Stinger 4 blade broadheads in my field.  I've gotten a ton of crap about the quality of the video questioning the authenticity, but it is legit.  Even at more realistic hunting ranges of 40, 50, or 60 yards the FOB's just flat work great.  I've tested them every way from Sunday, and they always win or at least tie; then I add in no time spent fletching and instant field repair, and it's a no-brainer.

Here are some other videos that I had on hand:

The target-view videos are for the noise-worried folks.  The FOB's are the 2nd arrow in each video.  The fletchings in order are 4" vanes, FOB's, 4" feathers, 2" Blazers (if I remember correctly).

Slick Trick group at 60 yards:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz213%2Ftoddr96%2Fth_56ef8e90.jpg&hash=939b42ba10c7dc8ed96d3d43ca2f59ee0bdcd83a) (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/toddr96/?action=view&current=56ef8e90.flv)

Muzzy 4 blade Broadheads:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz213%2Ftoddr96%2Fth_Default_3.jpg&hash=7d4bdaa29bd7d2e57462167245689afb4a38a2fb) (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/toddr96/?action=view&current=Default_3.flv)

Rocket Ultimate Steel Broadheads:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz213%2Ftoddr96%2Fth_Default_2.jpg&hash=832891543ab379f925e92e155d59fe92899ff6b9) (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/toddr96/?action=view&current=Default_2.flv)

Magnus Stinger 4 Blade Broadheads
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz213%2Ftoddr96%2Fth_Default_1.jpg&hash=14037421f36a01a6aee750eb85d0d13cf68bb8e2) (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/toddr96/?action=view&current=Default_1.flv)

Field Points:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz213%2Ftoddr96%2Fth_Default_0.jpg&hash=3bf44569e1c0831c69be89d5a6bccb3a5ba2c4b9) (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/toddr96/?action=view&current=Default_0.flv)
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 06, 2009, 08:21:23 AM
Thanks for the video.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 08, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
I'm still up in the air with these things.  Doing some more shooting with them today but only at 30 yards.  They fly great and are accurate.  My only problem so far is I like to shoot groups and I'll be damned if I didn't break another FOB today!  :chuckle:  I got to remember to aim at a differant spot each shot!   :bash:

They do mess with my anchor just a bit as they hit my chin and I have to turn my head a bit to get the string on the tip of my nose the way I like. 

Also I found out you want to be damn sure your finger is out of the way.  I was messing with my grip and didn't notice that the nuckle of my index finger was above the shelf a bit and the FOB whacked my finger and took a chunk of skin off! :o  Damn that hurt!  My finger went numb for about 20 minutes.  Still hit right where I was aiming though!  :)

-Lowedog
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 08, 2009, 10:33:12 PM
I hear accunocks help with the anchor point as they are a little longer so the FOB is a hair more forward.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 09, 2009, 04:28:35 AM
Yeah, I bought some Accunocks and tried them.  Wasn't impressed.  The little inner nock that is supposed to push forward and come off the string with no friction seems to move back into position faster than the nock can clear the string and actually plucks the string. 

-Lowedog
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 09, 2009, 08:19:58 AM
Thats nice to know thanks.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: cackle on March 09, 2009, 11:10:46 AM
I just ordered some today  :dunno: we will see how they work
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 09, 2009, 03:08:18 PM
What kinda arrows you all using?
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: cackle on March 09, 2009, 03:14:37 PM
gold tip pro hunters
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 09, 2009, 03:19:17 PM
CX Maxima Hunter 350
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 09, 2009, 03:39:42 PM
cackle-

been using GT Pro myself the last couple years but am starting to not be happy with them and how they fly with my BH's. I know I need a new rest and will change from my thunderhead 100's to probably slick tricks or the Atom. I usually fletch myself with 4" vanes in a right helical. If a cant get a drop rest then I'll probably try blazers but if I can get a QUD ultra like I want then I will probably go the way of FOB's.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: cackle on March 09, 2009, 03:47:23 PM
ya it was time for new arrows so I figured I would try the fobs out before I fletch them Im gunna have to buy a drop away rest and get rid of my whisker biscuit
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: bowman on March 10, 2009, 09:38:04 AM
Do the Fob's fit the Easton axis arrows? 
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 10, 2009, 11:54:41 AM
Yes, they do but it is a special FOB designed to fit the smaller diameter shaft. Check out the site. I believe there is a link on the first page.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: xXx Archery on March 11, 2009, 09:15:57 PM
I like the FOB's  :chuckle:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Aneoakleaf on March 11, 2009, 09:20:33 PM
I like the FOB's  :chuckle:
HI, good to see you on here!  :hello:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 12, 2009, 02:01:04 PM
Hey xXx, what's that string suppressor you have on your bow?

-Lowedog
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: hoytem on March 12, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
is that a bow madness i see in the pic? if so how do you like it?
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 12, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
Just got done trying out the fobs......My bow loves them!
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 12, 2009, 02:08:55 PM
Did you break any yet mossback?  I just can't get used to not shooting at the same spot each shot.  :bash:

Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 12, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
Could someone buy the items I have in the classifieds so that I can afford to get a fall away rest and try the FOB's.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 12, 2009, 02:14:37 PM
Lowedog

My field point bag is double sided, deer vitals on one side 16 2" dots on the other. I like for my wife to pic a spot and I try to hit it. It changes things up from trying to bust knocks.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: cackle on March 12, 2009, 02:22:33 PM
got my arrows today my fobs and arrow wraps should be here any day now
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: xXx Archery on March 12, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
yep Thats the new Bowmadness XL the bow shots great.it comes with the PSE Backstop on them you can get them for 39.00
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 12, 2009, 03:42:26 PM
Did you break any yet mossback?  I just can't get used to not shooting at the same spot each shot.  :bash:



No breakage yet.......have not shot at the same spot yet.........dnt know if I want to lol......
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 12, 2009, 05:29:02 PM
SOB looks like I just broke one!!! :bdid:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 12, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
 :'(   :'( :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 12, 2009, 09:17:43 PM
SOB looks like I just broke one!!! :bdid:
   :chuckle:

I have the double sided bag also with the dots on one side.  I also like to shoot at my 3d deer target and that's the tough one to not go for a heart shot every time.

Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 13, 2009, 09:57:25 AM
I wish a had a place for a 3D to shoot at. Have you thought about Angle shots? One shot each at differant angles (I'm sure you already do it), it will help with shot angle placement (a must for all bow hunters) and you don't run the risk of busting a FOB.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 13, 2009, 05:28:37 PM
I wish a had a place for a 3D to shoot at. Have you thought about Angle shots? One shot each at differant angles (I'm sure you already do it), it will help with shot angle placement (a must for all bow hunters) and you don't run the risk of busting a FOB.

Good idea!  I can also get up in my kids fort and do a tree stand shot.  I always wanted a 3d deer and when we were @ Cabela's I went to the bargain cave and they had the Glendale Full Rut Buck in there for $80 off so I had to buy it.

-Lowedog
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 13, 2009, 06:54:48 PM
Quote
Good idea!  I can also get up in my kids fort and do a tree stand shot.  I always wanted a 3d deer and when we were @ Cabela's I went to the bargain cave and they had the Glendale Full Rut Buck in there for $80 off so I had to buy it.

 

& when I got home I would hear so you had best return it.

I've been cut off in my house  :'(
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: bowman on March 15, 2009, 09:58:22 PM
What kind of setups are you guys using?

Like what bow, rest, and arrows.

Thanks,
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Todd_ID on March 16, 2009, 06:29:25 AM
What kind of setups are you guys using?

Like what bow, rest, and arrows.

Thanks,


There's no "perfect" setup for using FOB's.  The only hard and fast rule is that you must use a drop-away rest.  Some are easier to tune than others, but almost all of them are fine with FOB's.  The owner has written up his experience in tuning rests on fob-nation.com, and there are some valuable tips to be gleaned there.  Also, make sure to order the right size FOB's to match your arrows (i.e., order Axis size for Axis and MFX arrows).

To answer your question, though, I shoot an '04 Mathews Switchback, Trophy Ridge Drop Zone, and Easton Axis arrows.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: xXx Archery on March 16, 2009, 08:05:40 AM
 BOW.  Pse Omen ...REST.   Limb Driver...ARROWS.  ACC Pro Hunter
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: bankwalker on March 16, 2009, 12:53:16 PM
i used them and loved them. i was already a really good shot and they made me a great shot.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 16, 2009, 12:58:55 PM
I currently shoot a Martin Phantom but would like to get a new MOAB. As soon as I can afford a QAD Ultra Rest I'll try the FOB's. Untill then, I'll keep using what I got.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 16, 2009, 01:05:23 PM
Hoyt Trykon  Trophy Ridge Dropzone Gold Tip Xt hunter.......they seem to shoot real well and fly great
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 16, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
I'm shooting an '08 Guardian with a NAP Sizzor rest.  I don't think the FOBs will make you a better shot.  I haven't been able to shoot them past 30 yards yet so I don't have any experience at longer distances.  All the reading I have done suggests that they stabalize a broadhead really well and that they have less resistance in a crosswind. 

-Lowedog
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 16, 2009, 02:23:02 PM
Ive shot out to about 50 yards and they still seem to fly just as good and seem to stabilize broadheads well also
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: hoytem on March 18, 2009, 07:11:57 PM
is there any actualadvantage to using them , sounds like they break easy, and blazers stabilize broadheads well for me? or are they just kind of a neat gimmick?
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Todd_ID on March 19, 2009, 06:44:45 AM
is there any actualadvantage to using them , sounds like they break easy, and blazers stabilize broadheads well for me? or are they just kind of a neat gimmick?

Does the wind ever blow when you shoot or hunt?  Then the cross-wind drift reduction is a major advantage. 

Don't want to worry about fletching repairs and time lost hunting or shooting?  Then the simple replacement is an advantage.

Ever wondered exactly where that deer was standing when you shot?  The popped off FOB will be laying right there.

Ever travel with your arrows or store them to find that the vanes aren't perfect anymore?  Not a problem for FOB shooters.

Don't like paying to have arrows fletched and refletched? Advantage FOB's, again.

The main reason that the world hasn't changed to FOB's en masse is that they are afraid it's just a "neat gimmick".  The only time I shoot anything but FOB's is at the IBO shoots because they aren't allowed in the Hunter classes, yet. 
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: hoytem on March 21, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
very good points, answered any doubts i may have i had. now i'm just gonna have to order some and try em out my self. I really like the fact that all you have to do is pop them on and you're ready to go.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: DeKuma on March 25, 2009, 09:54:04 AM
I have been shooting FOBs for over a year, nearly two, and I love them!  Sure, I have Blazers too, but I just shoot the FOB better and repair cost is nil.  Wind is not a factor much.  Have yet to shoot an animal with them (damn branch!), but I have every confidence in them and will be carrying them in my quiver at all times.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: MichaelJ on March 25, 2009, 03:55:26 PM
I'd like to try 'em, but I love my Stealth Hunter rest too much to go to a dropzone... can't beat the rest for hunting imho...
http://www.inventivetechnology.com/Stealth.htm

Michael
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: hoytem on March 25, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
what vanes do you use with it, i see they recommend accuvanes?
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on March 26, 2009, 12:14:23 AM
I'd like to try 'em, but I love my Stealth Hunter rest too much to go to a dropzone... can't beat the rest for hunting imho...
http://www.inventivetechnology.com/Stealth.htm

Michael

Dude dnt ruin the FOB thread with this  :chuckle:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Clark33 on March 26, 2009, 10:36:03 AM
Someone should put a FOB through a whisker biscuit... just for fun you know. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 26, 2009, 10:37:57 AM
Why would you want to put a WB on your bow in the first place let alone possibly damage a FOB on one.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Lowedog on March 26, 2009, 10:41:50 AM
Someone should put a FOB through a whisker biscuit... just for fun you know. :rolleyes:

Better wear safety glasses!!!  ;)
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Todd_ID on March 26, 2009, 01:04:22 PM
Someone should put a FOB through a whisker biscuit... just for fun you know. :rolleyes:

Better wear safety glasses!!!  ;)
Nah, just go right to the straight jacket, bypassing any further harm to your person.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: cackle on March 31, 2009, 02:26:20 PM
any of you have any experience with this rest talked to a kid at the range the other day who has one and loves it just hope I wont get any contact with my FOBs

http://www.qadinc.com/c-5-.aspx
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Intruder on April 02, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
any of you have any experience with this rest talked to a kid at the range the other day who has one and loves it just hope I wont get any contact with my FOBs

http://www.qadinc.com/c-5-.aspx

I had the same question with a similiar rest.... fall away Trophy Taker w/ a Cage.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: Todd_ID on April 02, 2009, 08:38:51 PM
I set up a QAD Hunter for a buddy using FOB's.  It was pretty simple.  I did have to use the longer launcher that came with it, but that was it.  I haven't set up a Trophy Taker, yet; check out Paul's explanation and videos, though.  It should work fine: http://fob-nation.com/SMF/index.php?topic=124.0
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: RyanD on April 02, 2009, 08:45:47 PM
This is just my opinion but I can't bring myself to even try them, because they are sooooo uggglyy!!!! :) :)
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: bow-n-head on April 05, 2009, 06:35:18 PM
I looked this weekend at the two sporting goods stores in Great Falls and neither one had them. I shoot a nap Quick Tune Drop away, don't know if there is enough clearence, I have my doubts. Gona try them anywhay, when I can find them.
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: mossback91 on April 05, 2009, 06:44:59 PM
I looked this weekend at the two sporting goods stores in Great Falls and neither one had them. I shoot a nap Quick Tune Drop away, don't know if there is enough clearence, I have my doubts. Gona try them anywhay, when I can find them.

www.starrflight.com
Title: Re: FOB's?
Post by: KillBilly on April 05, 2009, 07:15:12 PM
Any of you close to Oly/Lacey, could contact me for help with the FOBS. I can check your setup for suitability and loan you a couple of practice FOBs.

The one thing that is paramount is that nothing will stabilize an arrows as quickly as a FOB. Speeds may be similar as Blazers. I have never noticed any additional noise. I am able to practice with field tips on a well tuned bow and never re-tune when switching to broadheads. I believe in them because they work for me.
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