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Title: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: cberg on March 04, 2009, 11:34:46 AM: This is our first attempt at a life size on a Mt. Lion. Just wanted some helpful advice if you have any constructive criticism. The rock is made from scratch and the limb he is hanging on to is real. This was a 150 lb male I shot in December of 2007. My partner and I have been weekend warriors since 2004 and mainly do deer, elk, ect...
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: bowhunter/taxidermest on March 04, 2009, 12:31:29 PM: dang that is great it looks good you have got me beat i have yet to do a cat
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 04, 2009, 12:46:54 PM: I'm know crap about stuffing game but you wanted our :twocents:

I think the eye brows could be a bit larger giving it a more mean look.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: bucklucky on March 04, 2009, 01:00:04 PM: Gona need better ppics for a descent dritique. Close up of the head and paws. Over all looks pretty nice for a first. I cant see any detail in the cat though, is there wrinkles in the nose where they are supposed to be? Something isnt right with the eyes, but I need a better picture to see what it is. Nose color looks wrong too. Cant see how well you did on the finish work around the mouth on that cast lip either. Tail looks a little to "lumpy" it sould have a smooth flow to it.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: whacker1 on March 04, 2009, 05:00:35 PM: I was wondering when we were going to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Ray on March 04, 2009, 05:05:21 PM: It would be best to get that close up of the face. Something is different about it between it's left eye and the ear but it is hard to tell what it is.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: yelp on March 04, 2009, 05:05:35 PM: Hey Chuck good to see you on here..about time. How business...busy as usual..See you soon. Good looking cat too...Did you get it with a bow? EB
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: robb92 on March 04, 2009, 05:44:43 PM: Looks good to me!
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: huntnphool on March 04, 2009, 05:51:41 PM: That looks great cberg. The only thing I would change, since you asked, is the paw on the branch, it doesnt look normal, I mean why would a cat be putting its paw on a branch in that position, almost like its pulling on it. Maybe with the arm extending with the paw like its swinging at something, and the rest of the form in the exact same position? :dunno: I still thinks it looks very well done and will remember this one for when I finally get my cat.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: cberg on March 05, 2009, 08:46:58 AM: Gobble Gobble... I agree.. needs a little more brow with more scowl look to it.

Buck Lucky.. Wrinkles stayed in the nose pretty well. Might have needed to make them deeper. Nose color is always a challenge on cats for me (only mounted bobcats so far) I use a mix of cad. red with white, thin it then mix in a little dk yellow to gain that peach tone. Then wash it with blk and spray acetone/thinner to blend. What do you do? I should have combed the tail before we snapped the pic. Opps.

Yelp... Where do I know you from? Cant tell by your post

Huntnphool... we started with the paw on top of the branch then changed it. I think I would have liked it better the other way.

All in all it was a challenge mounting it and I cant wait to try another one to fix all the areas we need to.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Black Ghost on April 28, 2009, 08:34:47 PM: You are better than a weekend warrior! Looks real good!
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: cberg on April 29, 2009, 08:10:29 AM: Thanks Black Ghost. Seems like it used to be weekends then it spilled over into some nights now we are getting more busy all the time. I guess its one of those "Be careful what you wish for" things.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 29, 2009, 11:27:09 AM: HUH, I missed this thread.

cburg, I wouldn't worry to much about the nose color. It looks pretty good to me. Every cat is going to have a differnt color nose. I have seen them all different shades. Their really is no "standard" color for a Mt. Lions nose. It's personal preferance over all. I have a LOT of referance photos on my computer and none of the cats share the exact same nose color. Go into google images and do a search.

http://wallpapers.dpics.org/15__Close_Snarl%2C_Cougar.htm

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If you scroll down on this link their is a cougar with no fleshy color to his nose at all.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gryphonscry.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mountain-lion-4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gryphonscry.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/more-mountain-lions/&usg=__MO0S55hHqpSK407-mbumiBknRMQ=&h=432&w=455&sz=70&hl=en&start=15&um=1&tbnid=1DXqXC8nA_8TsM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMountain%2Blion%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/h/hissing-mountain-lion-462917-sw.jpg&imgrefurl=http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/enlarge/hissing-mountain-lion_pod_image.html&usg=__hOtnBD_h_eML04docTTgvutG_84=&h=600&w=800&sz=97&hl=en&start=31&um=1&tbnid=I0XpV8lMFqoU9M:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMountain%2Blion%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1

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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.ksfy.com/images/generic%2520mountain%2520lion.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ksfy.com/news/local/39135102.html&usg=__ssjX7zCIVcC5X6vkzDwfJyTMm-0=&h=240&w=320&sz=46&hl=en&start=57&um=1&tbnid=HadP-4Bx5J03sM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMountain%2Blion%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D40%26um%3D1

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Here is another pic of a really dark nosed cat.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.awrc.org/images/Mountain%2520Lion.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.awrc.org/2006_Christmas_Cards.htm&usg=__s2ERRFwVSHkmCprf1pmRfCSwjlM=&h=777&w=1180&sz=114&hl=en&start=71&um=1&tbnid=c7_8zr5I2drp4M:&tbnh=99&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMountain%2Blion%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D60%26um%3D1

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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/02/lion.jpg&imgrefurl=http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/mountain_lions/index.html&usg=__BCvLVmsgMBsN_FOHnEnSjOnHwVo=&h=459&w=640&sz=21&hl=en&start=185&um=1&tbnid=_vDUup8i9AVAbM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMountain%2Blion%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D180%26um%3D1
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: bucklucky on April 29, 2009, 11:59:57 AM: But a pink look to the nose ? Its almost the same shade as the toungue. My white cat has a pink nose , I guess that is natural. Most Lions will have some sort of "rusty" color to the nose. As stated can be very dark or light but pink?? AT least it looks pink to me by your Picture Cberg? Im no expert though, thats for dang sure!
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: cberg on April 29, 2009, 12:37:09 PM: Thanks Charlie and Michelle,

I will get some better pics of the nose with a better camera. I don't think it came out as a pink color, more of a peach/orange/tan/pink (that narrows it down doesn't it....lol :rolleyes:). I was able to see Phil Saucy's cat at the SCI show this year and it is truly amazing. Here is a picture of it. I think Phil has probably forgotten more about cats than I will ever know... I called him to see if he was doing any seminars that we could go to and he is not. I would guess he is to busy. He told me he has around 100 cats in his business at any given time. No wonder he is so good at them. :bash:
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: bucklucky on April 29, 2009, 12:43:15 PM: He is the best IMO. But I think his nose is the wrong color :chuckle: Kidding. I would like to go to one of his ceminars some time.

Its tough to get good at something when you dont get many to work on. I got 1 lifesized Lion to do this year. It a closed mouth walking on all fours like when my budy shot it. But I did get a bunch of monster Bulls to do this year ;)
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 29, 2009, 12:53:50 PM: Quote from: bucklucky on April 29, 2009, 12:43:15 PM
He is the best IMO. But I think his nose is the wrong color :chuckle: Kidding. I would like to go to one of his ceminars some time.

Its tough to get good at something when you dont get many to work on.

:yeah:
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Hornseeker on April 29, 2009, 12:54:30 PM: That "saucy's cat" has a PERFECT head/face/shoulders....as good as you will EVER see! DANG!!

Check out more here...Cats are UNREAL!!!

http://www.philipsoucy.com/gallery/enlargephoto.tpl?imgname=mtnlion8.jpg&caption=

Your cat looks REALLY good for a first one.... I've seen guys that have mounted 20+ that dont do them that well. i personally think that a lion or bobcat is the hardest mount...as they are what I see commonly done poorly.. I think getting there head/face right is critical... use LOTS of good, live reference photos... or photos of this Saucy guys work!!

There is a taxidermist in Libby, MT that does the best cats I've ever seen...period. Cant think of his name right now.. Also cant remember who mounted my cat, but its awesome too... he's outta Enumclaw or somewhere near there...??

Ernie
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: boneaddict on April 29, 2009, 01:16:42 PM: 100 cats....HOLY COW!
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 29, 2009, 01:25:30 PM: Uhhh, Phil Saucy is out of Libby MT.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: boneaddict on April 29, 2009, 01:26:15 PM: I think thats why the link Mich. ;)
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: cberg on April 29, 2009, 01:44:59 PM: There were quite a few of Saucy's cats there at the SCI show. If you guys and gals ever get a chance to go it is well worth it. Some of the best taxidermy around. Its a great way to get ideas for mounts because everyone displaying there has went all out on the piece. And its a little entertaining to see how the "Well to do" live. I saw one gun on a table there that was selling for $174,000. For that much money it better do more than go bang, bang.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: cberg on May 06, 2009, 12:01:26 PM: Charlie,

Got a little better pic of the cat nose. Not real pink like you thought. Just looked that way in the other lifesize pic.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: bucklucky on May 06, 2009, 12:46:47 PM: It looks too pink to me.
Title: Re: Advantage Taxidermy's first life size Mt. Lion - Opinions?
Post by: Houndhunter on May 06, 2009, 03:55:03 PM: :chuckle: