Post by: GoldenRing270 on November 20, 2017, 07:25:30 PM
Would you be willing to pay for an Okanogan County Mule Deer Endorsement in order to hunt for mule deer in Okanogan county? This would be similar to the upper Columbia salmon and steelhead endorsment required to fish for salmon and steelhead on the upper Columbia river and its tributaries. All of the funds would go toward improving the mule deer habitat lost during the past several big fires and maybe some of it could go toward mule deer studies.
I am curious how folks would feel about this. If your answer is yes then how much would you be willing to pay? I think the salmon steelhead endorsement cost $10 and it is just an add on to your fishing license. Would $25 be pushing it?
How about if this were made state wide for all mule deer hunting? Or would you be more willing if it were only for Okanogan county?
Anyways I am curious what you guys/gals think about this. Please keep this on topic.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 20, 2017, 07:35:28 PM
Lots of stuff they could do with what they have know. :twocents:
Post by: idahohuntr on November 20, 2017, 07:40:08 PM
No.
I do not believe a lack of funding is the cause of mule deer declines. I'm sure WDFW would like to push an idea like this as they have for many other fees they conjure up.
They have enough money to do good things for mule deer, they just need the leadership to prioritize appropriately and cut all the waste.
Post by: Smokepole on November 20, 2017, 07:40:55 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2017, 07:41:45 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 20, 2017, 07:42:17 PM
Post by: grundy53 on November 20, 2017, 08:14:40 PM
They’d squander the funds. I’d only support it if it would deter people from hunting it for a year or two. They need to shut it down for a couple years.Agreed
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Post by: Mtnwalker on November 20, 2017, 08:28:31 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on November 20, 2017, 08:40:31 PM
by requiring an endorsement to hunt a single county (one of the two most hunted counties) it will only push more people to other units where there is no additional fee like say the entiat. thus hammering that drainage even harder.....and the wheel goes round and round and round
Post by: SCRUBS on November 20, 2017, 08:47:01 PM
Post by: GoldenRing270 on November 20, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on November 20, 2017, 08:53:21 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 20, 2017, 09:07:19 PM
What if they used the money to build mule deer hatcheries. Just think... brand new 100 million dollar facilities pumping out hundreds of thousands of fawns each year with 1-2% mortality rates. They could plant them into the national forest a week before the season starts as 3 year old shootables. Kinda like the trout catchables for the lowland lakes opener except the deer would be grain fed and taste delicious. :chuckle:
They would just let the... I’ll just keep that thought to myself. :rolleyes:
Post by: dvolmer on November 21, 2017, 08:40:32 AM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 21, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
i definitely wouldn't shell out extra to hunt certain units, as WDFW has demonstrated that they are irresponsible with our money.
Post by: huntnut26 on November 21, 2017, 11:21:54 AM
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Post by: JLS on November 21, 2017, 12:02:52 PM
Our hunting license funds go into the general fund for the state and then a reduced amount gets put back into a WDFW budget. Our license funds are already supporting the Liberal agenda of our states law makers. As far as I know, my license money is paying for high school kids condoms or abortions for kids without there parents knowing! If all the money that was taken in by sportsmen was used to better enhance the hunting experience and help with game, we would have a wonderful hunting and fishing program in our state. But on the second hand, if the libs didn't get the cut they were getting, they would have probably outlawed all hunting in the state for its mean and cruelty to animals!!! This place will drive you nuts if you try to use any common sense at all!!! :bash:
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.170
The information on license fees is incorrect. Please reference the RCW.
Post by: winshooter88 on November 21, 2017, 12:34:21 PM
Our hunting license funds go into the general fund for the state and then a reduced amount gets put back into a WDFW budget. Our license funds are already supporting the Liberal agenda of our states law makers. As far as I know, my license money is paying for high school kids condoms or abortions for kids without there parents knowing! If all the money that was taken in by sportsmen was used to better enhance the hunting experience and help with game, we would have a wonderful hunting and fishing program in our state. But on the second hand, if the libs didn't get the cut they were getting, they would have probably outlawed all hunting in the state for its mean and cruelty to animals!!! This place will drive you nuts if you try to use any common sense at all!!! :bash:
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.170
The information on license fees is incorrect. Please reference the RCW.
JLS is correct, the hunting license and tag fees go into the WDFW Wildlife fund, not into the general fund and haven't gone into the general fund for several years. The bad part is that the legislature gets to tell WDFW what they can spend most of the monies they have on.
Post by: dvolmer on November 21, 2017, 12:55:32 PM
Our hunting license funds go into the general fund for the state and then a reduced amount gets put back into a WDFW budget. Our license funds are already supporting the Liberal agenda of our states law makers. As far as I know, my license money is paying for high school kids condoms or abortions for kids without there parents knowing! If all the money that was taken in by sportsmen was used to better enhance the hunting experience and help with game, we would have a wonderful hunting and fishing program in our state. But on the second hand, if the libs didn't get the cut they were getting, they would have probably outlawed all hunting in the state for its mean and cruelty to animals!!! This place will drive you nuts if you try to use any common sense at all!!! :bash:
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.170
The information on license fees is incorrect. Please reference the RCW.
Yes it does go into the "State Wildlife Fund" or so they call it. That is where the money is collected and held. It doesn't say what it can be used for and what other funds can be subsidized from it.
Post by: boneaddict on November 21, 2017, 01:05:14 PM
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Post by: Britt-dog on November 21, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 21, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
Post by: KFhunter on November 21, 2017, 07:16:13 PM
They’d squander the funds. I’d only support it if it would deter people from hunting it for a year or two. They need to shut it down for a couple years.
and give out hound hunting permits like candy, get them cats running
Post by: RB on November 21, 2017, 07:20:08 PM
I'd like to see a requirement that a hunter kill a certain number of predators before they're allowed to hunt mule deer. Let's say 5 coyotes, or 1 bear, or 1 cougar.
:yeah:
Make it two Bears anywhere in the state. I heard more Coyotes this year than any time in the 30 years I have been hunting!
Post by: GoldenRing270 on November 21, 2017, 08:14:16 PM
Post by: Britt-dog on November 21, 2017, 09:00:53 PM
I'd like to see a requirement that a hunter kill a certain number of predators before they're allowed to hunt mule deer. Let's say 5 coyotes, or 1 bear, or 1 cougar.
Different take on the "earn a buck" program some other states have.
Post by: Ridgerunner50 on November 22, 2017, 07:21:38 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 22, 2017, 07:34:17 AM
I like the idea bobcat. Maybe something like, You can hunt for mule deer every year but after you notch a tag on a muley you have to wait 2-3 years for another muley tag or sooner if you harvest 2 bears.
This is where your going to run into problems..People will notch their tag in the field to stay legal but won't report the harvest. Relying on peoples honesty to base tag allocation is flawed because unfortunately a lot of people are selfish. More so these days with the inter web pressure of success because everyone else is killing big deer..
As for killing predators to earn a deer tag..how does that get accurately reported...pictures, online self reporting, check station.....I just don't see it happening.
If everyone, myself included makes a good hearted effort to hunt more predators this winter that would be a start. I know I talk about coyote hunting but then get busy and rarely get out..This year Im going to make it a goal to kill 5 dogs in my hunting area.
Post by: JLS on November 22, 2017, 07:45:07 AM
Our hunting license funds go into the general fund for the state and then a reduced amount gets put back into a WDFW budget. Our license funds are already supporting the Liberal agenda of our states law makers. As far as I know, my license money is paying for high school kids condoms or abortions for kids without there parents knowing! If all the money that was taken in by sportsmen was used to better enhance the hunting experience and help with game, we would have a wonderful hunting and fishing program in our state. But on the second hand, if the libs didn't get the cut they were getting, they would have probably outlawed all hunting in the state for its mean and cruelty to animals!!! This place will drive you nuts if you try to use any common sense at all!!! :bash:
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.170
The information on license fees is incorrect. Please reference the RCW.
Yes it does go into the "State Wildlife Fund" or so they call it. That is where the money is collected and held. It doesn't say what it can be used for and what other funds can be subsidized from it.
Actually, it does.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.190
For the record, I think the original idea floated out is a bad idea.
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2017, 07:50:41 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 22, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
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Post by: bobcat on November 22, 2017, 07:58:57 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2017, 08:11:28 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 22, 2017, 08:16:22 AM
But I could be off a year or so...Ive been wrong before. :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2017, 08:20:16 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 22, 2017, 08:20:19 AM
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Post by: Buzz2401 on November 22, 2017, 08:20:32 AM
Post by: GoldenRing270 on November 22, 2017, 08:42:43 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2017, 08:47:05 AM
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 22, 2017, 08:51:25 AM
Mule deer need to go to permit only and we need to get hound hunting back on the ballot.
There needs to be some education on species, The check station north of Spokane this fall had several small mulie bucks that had been shot.