Post by: h20hunter on November 22, 2017, 07:12:30 PM
My current dream build is pretty basic. 7mm rem mag, Carbon Hunter, topped with a Nightforce NXS 5.5x22x50.
Annnnnd go!
Post by: Jolten on November 22, 2017, 07:31:05 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 22, 2017, 07:36:49 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 22, 2017, 07:45:12 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 22, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
My next will be a 7mm/300wsm.:yeah: Carbon barrel, nix the extra pound for nightforce and get a 4-24 leupy with HD glass, led leveling and turrets. Stick on a carbon fiber leupy magnetic bipod. Load up some 210's in the 30WSM and you have accuracy and knockdown out to 1000 yards loaded hot and taking high shoulder shots and a very packable rifle.
Post by: runamuk on November 22, 2017, 08:02:26 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 22, 2017, 08:46:33 PM
Post by: Crunchy on November 22, 2017, 08:56:03 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 22, 2017, 08:57:03 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 22, 2017, 08:58:42 PM
http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/x-bolt/current-production/x-bolt-hells-canyon-long-range.html (http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/x-bolt/current-production/x-bolt-hells-canyon-long-range.html)
Post by: h20hunter on November 22, 2017, 08:59:15 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 22, 2017, 09:03:01 PM
Post by: Hilltop123 on November 22, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
Post by: Crunchy on November 22, 2017, 09:06:40 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 22, 2017, 09:07:16 PM
Post by: Hilltop123 on November 22, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
Lefty or righty....either way. Even though lefty is way goofy! ;)
You mean wrong handed not left handed 😉Yadda Yadda Yadda
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 22, 2017, 09:23:21 PM
You mean wrong handed not left handed 😉I would just bowhunt if I was cross handed :tung:
Post by: runamuk on November 22, 2017, 09:40:11 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 22, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
Doesnt Rbros guarantee a .5 or .25 MOA.? Not sure you can get that from slapping a few parts together??
Yes you can. Had more than a few factory rifles shooting factory fodder that would too....
Post by: runamuk on November 22, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 22, 2017, 10:12:06 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on November 22, 2017, 10:54:28 PM
I have 4 in my safes.
1- Rogue LH action 6.5x47 Lapua, 2- my daughter's Remington 700 LH 6.5x47 Lapua, 3-Phoenix LH 338 Lapua, 4- Remington 700LH 264 Win Mag.
To answer the OP's question, my perfect all around-er for the above is my RBros built 264 WM on a 700 Remington LH long action, 24" Rock mountain rifle contour 8 twist barrel.
Jewell trigger, B&C mountain rifle BDL stock with aluminum bedding block. Nightforce 2.5-10x32.
I've seen a few kids try to cobble together off the shelf rifles and claim sub MOA rifles. On their best days they might eek out 1- MOA 3 shot group.
A custom rifle will hold is accuracy over the life of the barrel, or in the case of my 6.5, barrels.
Post by: hunting4sanity on November 22, 2017, 11:08:53 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 22, 2017, 11:10:01 PM
Post by: follow maggie on November 23, 2017, 01:01:56 AM
Post by: Buckhunter28 on November 23, 2017, 08:59:59 AM
Post by: actionshooter on November 23, 2017, 09:19:46 AM
I've found with the larger calibers you still need to tune the load to get into the sub moa typically regardless of the maker if starting cold in load selection. If smith provides you with load data that he knows works you may be sub moa right outa the box.That is what Rbros does, provided a load with my 7mag and was shooting sub-moa the 1st outing. I only own 1 but have shot several of their rifles and personally, I think they are worth the money.
For a wish list...... Carbon hunter in 280AI w/ NXS 5.5-20
Post by: hogslayer on November 25, 2017, 08:18:35 AM
Post by: slm9s on November 25, 2017, 08:50:55 AM
Old rem trigger with 2lb trigger job
X-caliber bbl
B&C Medalist stock with Maxxguard
Rem BDL bottom metal
Chambering: 280
VX-6 2-12x44 lit LR Duplex
Burris Sig Zee
Post by: rbros on November 25, 2017, 07:05:45 PM
Nothing against Anybody, but it’s pretty easy to have a sub moa rifle built for a lot less, to YOUR specs...
Since this seems like I don't build rifles to customers specs, let's clear some things up right now
The configurations on the website are popular options but are in no means THE only options. Probably half the builds I do are directly to customers specs whether it's a full custom or rebarreling their Remington. Of the close to 300 rifles I've built this year the majority have been under .25 moa with the exception of a couple of #2 barrel magnums that were just under .5 moa. And yes, virtually all of my customers can and shoot the rifles below the 1/2 moa bar.
Also, not sure on Jim's daughter seeing an affiliate of R Bros. There is only one of me and I'm not dating her to my knowledge.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 26, 2017, 07:36:11 AM
The point about “your specs” has nothing to do with your builds... just saying a person has unlimited options building whatever they’re little heart desires, but less than 1/2 price. Dunno why I mentioned that as most folks can’t mount and boresite a scope, let alone source they’re own part for a custom build...
Post by: hogslayer on November 26, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Post by: rbros on November 26, 2017, 08:12:54 AM
This thread is a good idea from the op as it gives me an idea of other items to keep in inventory so I have most options covered for guys. The new shop has much larger capabilities now and can utilize the new cnc machines to make other parts, bolt fluting, etc. Once I get things settled in I may do a bolt fluting deal for guys.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 26, 2017, 08:40:45 AM
Post by: Buckhunter28 on November 26, 2017, 10:02:59 AM
Post by: hogslayer on November 26, 2017, 10:25:25 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 26, 2017, 10:33:10 AM
Post by: runamuk on November 26, 2017, 10:59:41 AM
Need....key word...the want list is always there.:chuckle:
Says the girl thinking she needs 3 of the same caliber.
Post by: Buckhunter28 on November 26, 2017, 11:08:03 AM
Post by: mountainman on November 26, 2017, 12:50:50 PM
Defiance action.
.338 edge shooting 300 SMK's ahead of a midline dose of H1000 at 2900 fps. Uncanny accurate, 1/2-3/4's at 300 if I do my part. Rockchucks at 1500 yards is a hoot!
That's what you get with a full custom
I think a Carbon Hunter in .264 Win would be fun👍
Post by: yorketransport on November 26, 2017, 01:15:37 PM
I've seen a few kids try to cobble together off the shelf rifles and claim sub MOA rifles. On their best days they might eek out 1- MOA 3 shot group.
A custom rifle will hold is accuracy over the life of the barrel, or in the case of my 6.5, barrels.
It's likely that those "kids" could have used a little guidance from an experienced shooter to make the most of their equipment. I've only ever owned 2 factory rifles that wouldn't hold better than MOA with factory ammo; with handloads they both ended up under the 1 MOA mark. I've cobbled together enough parts guns to know that just about any good barrel on a decent action in a mediocre stock with an adequate trigger is capable of .5 MOA performance with the right load. :twocents:
Custom guns are just like brand new luxury cars; the vast majority of them are sold to "name droppers". I've owned and shot enough custom guns built by top name smiths to know that most of what you pay for is attention to detail, just like with luxury cars. You get the folks who go out and buy a brand new custom rifle (or car), show all their friends and tell all of the inter-webs about their new toy and how much it cost or what an elite group they're in for owning it. Then there's the groups of people who will drool and pour over how they dream of having something like that one day but they just don't have the funds. The new owner will follow up with a humble brag about how they've saved and sacrificed but they know that the quality's worth the expense.
Then come the self identified "realistic/practical" folks who will point out that you can get the same performance for a fraction of the cost by going a different route. Whether that comes from a do-it-yourself project or using a lesser known but still highly proficient professional. They end up with comparable performance for significantly less money, but without the "name dropper" appeal or all of the flair. The "name dropper" crowd will be in an uproar and come to the defense of the name they're most loyal to. This will be followed by the realistic/practical crowd pointing out that it's all marketing hype and brand loyalty.
Somewhere in the mix is the rare individual who's really capable and willing to take full advantage of the attention to detail that you pay for with a high end piece of equipment. The number of shooters who're really capable of shooting beyond the capabilities of their rifles is pretty small, just like the number of drivers who're really capable and willing to take advantage of what their car is really capable of. Pay for the name, logo or complimentary hat and associated SWAG if that's your thing. Or pay for the usable performance at a price that makes sense for the end user's needs. I've gone both routes before with rifles and cars and I'm dumb enough to fall for it again with both rifles and cars.
As far as the original post, I've always been fond of the LW Hunter. Maybe in something like 300 WSM.
Post by: hogslayer on November 26, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
Post by: jjhunter on November 26, 2017, 01:59:58 PM
Good luck on your pick!
Post by: Stein on November 26, 2017, 03:12:17 PM
Post by: rbros on November 26, 2017, 04:56:30 PM
30-06, no brake, so I may be waiting a while.
Easily done. Did a handful of those and 270's this year. Both shoot the Hornady Precision Hunter ammo in one hole
Post by: grundy53 on November 27, 2017, 04:44:24 AM
That's enough. We get it. Now please let the the people who are actually interested in this thread enjoy it without your hijacking it. Thank you.I can't help myself here. 257 WBY, There is no way that you can build a complete custom rifle for half the cost. Rbro's doesn't charge nearly what other companies do and you get a lot more for your money. Look at how much some other companies are charging and doesn't come with load development. All gunsmiths aren't created equal either. It's pretty easy to add up the cost of the parts. Only way i could see someone saving money is using a donor Rem 700 action that would need to be trued.
Alright, have you ever spec’d a rifle, ordered all parts by yourself, and had it put together? Like by yourself, without talking to a smith? If so how many? Sorry couldn’t help myself...
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Post by: h20hunter on November 27, 2017, 06:12:58 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 27, 2017, 08:18:50 AM
I'd be hard pressed to leave my favorite caliber, 7mm Rem Mag. But if someone was twisting my arm, I'd probably end up with its slightlier more hipster cousin, the 280AI, Carbon Hunter.
Post by: h20hunter on December 16, 2017, 05:29:38 PM
Post by: mountainman on December 16, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Some people's kids... :chuckle:the .280AI would. Not be a bad choice👍 Very efficient for an all-around 7mm caliber rifle!
I'd be hard pressed to leave my favorite caliber, 7mm Rem Mag. But if someone was twisting my arm, I'd probably end up with its slightlier more hipster cousin, the 280AI, Carbon Hunter.
Post by: Timberstalker on December 16, 2017, 07:07:05 PM
Time to bump this. I'd like to include the caliber portion of this as well. I don't need lethality to a thousand yards and am hard pressed to find a better caliber for my needs than the trusty 7mm rem mag. I hope to go see Travis next month or Feb to finalize the build plans.
Take a look at the 28 Nosler if you haven’t.
Post by: h20hunter on December 16, 2017, 07:13:44 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on December 16, 2017, 07:16:58 PM
How do feel about barrell life?
About the same as other “hot” rounds. It’ll eat barrels but I’m not sure I’d worry too much. It’s fairly cheap to replace a barrel. I’m 350 rounds through mine now and it hasn’t started opening up. Only shooting 3200 FPS currently.
Post by: h20hunter on December 16, 2017, 07:18:13 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 16, 2017, 07:19:25 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 16, 2017, 07:23:18 PM
How do feel about barrell life?
Barrel life is way over talked by the majority. Especially when it comes to factory ammo. With the 28 Nosler, factory ammo is running a guy on the average of $60.00 a box (Per 20). Lets be conservative and say the barrel will go 1K for true accuracy. That's $3000.00 bucks in ammo. Isn't going to happen for the majority of the bargain shoppers out ther. Call it 1500 rounds of handloads, still close to the same figure.
99% of people who talk about barrel life. HAVE NEVER SHOT OUT A BARREL! A custom barrel to boot.
Build it, hunt with it, enjoy it and don't worry about it.
Post by: Timberstalker on December 16, 2017, 07:29:16 PM
How do feel about barrell life?
Barrel life is way over talked by the majority. Especially when it comes to factory ammo. With the 28 Nosler, factory ammo is running a guy on the average of $60.00 a box (Per 20). Lets be conservative and say the barrel will go 1K for true accuracy. That's $3000.00 bucks in ammo. Isn't going to happen for the majority of the bargain shoppers out ther. Call it 1500 rounds of handloads, still close to the same figure.
99% of people who talk about barrel life. HAVE NEVER SHOT OUT A BARREL! A custom barrel to boot.
Build it, hunt with it, enjoy it and don't worry about it.
Well said! :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on December 16, 2017, 07:38:13 PM
That would be a fun round for an enthusiast, but if the OP is looking for a custom he's going to keep forever maybe the 7mmRM would be a better fit. This is your first big custom h20?
Yes. 100%. Some of my thoughts are the 7mm rem mag is a tried and true round. If spending this kind of coin I want to stay in state. I value the fact that I can go to where they do the build, meet the man in this case, and go from there. This to me is like investing in art. I appreciate the end result and will own it forever.
Post by: KFhunter on December 16, 2017, 07:41:44 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 16, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
ya...I'd say get your first one out of the way, love it hug it marry it, then 5-10 years from now when your looking for some strange then get something a little bit more exotic.
Perfect! Some of us knocked our first custom off 25 years ago! Back when 25-284's weren't cool. Their all fun, but the they come and go. There is a select few a guy keeps beating up over the years.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 16, 2017, 07:49:15 PM
ya...I'd say get your first one out of the way, love it hug it marry it, then 5-10 years from now when your looking for some strange then get something a little bit more exotic.it doesnt take 5-10 :chuckle:
Post by: mountainman on December 16, 2017, 07:55:06 PM
more like 5-10 months👍ya...I'd say get your first one out of the way, love it hug it marry it, then 5-10 years from now when your looking for some strange then get something a little bit more exotic.it doesnt take 5-10 :chuckle:
Post by: h20hunter on December 16, 2017, 07:55:49 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 16, 2017, 07:58:26 PM
you spelled weeks wrong🤣more like 5-10 months👍ya...I'd say get your first one out of the way, love it hug it marry it, then 5-10 years from now when your looking for some strange then get something a little bit more exotic.it doesnt take 5-10 :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 16, 2017, 08:02:29 PM