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Title: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: TLEVIN40 on December 08, 2017, 10:05:29 AM
I have been deer hunting over last 3 yrs (modern firearm), but i would like to start applying for moose, spring bear, anterless ect permits/tags.

My questions is, is there a single date/time frame to apply for all of these tags?

Does anyone have a good system willing to share?

I know all the dates are in the reg book but just curious being a new hunter.
Thanks

Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: elkchaser54 on December 08, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
you can apply for bear right now!  Elk moose deer goat and sheep are all from april 20 to may 20 (rough estimates, its always within a couple days of those dates though)
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: jackelope on December 08, 2017, 10:16:59 AM
Don't apply for anything except spring bear and multi-season permits until the new reg's come out in April.
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: vandeman17 on December 08, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
my only advice is to buy a bottle of your favorite hooch and have it ready every year when the results are posted
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: Woodchuck on December 08, 2017, 10:20:41 AM
my only advice is to buy a bottle of your favorite hooch and have it ready every year when the results are posted
I keep two bottles handy.  :tup:
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 08, 2017, 10:30:37 AM
How much money are you willing to part with for years and years of applying?
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: TLEVIN40 on December 08, 2017, 10:47:57 AM
jackelope, thanks for the heads up. Is it the duration of season or GMU restrictions ect, that have suggesting waiting?

I am a makers mark drinker and will definitely have to have a bottle or two on hand.


Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: jackelope on December 08, 2017, 10:55:12 AM
jackelope, thanks for the heads up. Is it the duration of season or GMU restrictions ect, that have suggesting waiting?

I am a makers mark drinker and will definitely have to have a bottle or two on hand.




You have to make sure the hunts still exist, the hunt numbers stay the same, there are no new permits, etc. You won't know for sure till the new reg's come out.

And don't let these guys get you all worked up. I draw tags all the time.
 :yike:
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: 7mmfan on December 08, 2017, 11:01:43 AM
jackelope, thanks for the heads up. Is it the duration of season or GMU restrictions ect, that have suggesting waiting?

I am a makers mark drinker and will definitely have to have a bottle or two on hand.




You have to make sure the hunts still exist, the hunt numbers stay the same, there are no new permits, etc. You won't know for sure till the new reg's come out.

And don't let these guys get you all worked up. I draw tags all the time.
 :yike:

We're not all high falutin goat hunters like you though...    :chuckle:
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: Antlershed on December 08, 2017, 11:17:27 AM
The only thing to apply for right now is multi-season, but you have until March 31st to do so.

You can apply for Spring Bear from 1/2/18 - 2/28/18.

The rest of the big game draws have an application period of mid-April to mid-May. Exact dates will be printed in the regs in early to mid-April.
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: trophyhunt on December 08, 2017, 11:26:15 AM
This is my 2cents.   I’ve been playing the permit game like most on here for over 22 years.  I’ve been applying for hard to draw tags, including all the oil tags (once in a lifetime), 22 years (points) for quality elk, bull elk, 13 for quality deer and 18 for oil’s. There are a couple ways to play this game, apply for permits that are easier to draw or go for gold.  Going for those very tough draws could cost you your youth and years, decades, waiting, getting old in the process.  If you want to hunt your favorite animal every year, and it isn’t part of your permit goal, as far as location or weapon, apply for ghost points and go hunt!  Always put in for oil tags, very tough to draw but get your permit in the hat!  Apply for multi season elk, when you draw this (average of every 5to 6 years), then put in for your coveted tags.  Multi elk allows you to put in for both sides of the state and for multiple weapons.  Of course if your yearly hunt is in the same area and same weapon, put in every year and don’t ghost point. Hope this makes sense.  Don’t get old waiting for that one permit like me, go hunt and enjoy every season, I regret waiting so long and now I’m pot committed.  Once I draw, I’m done playing the points game, hope I can still walk by then.
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 08, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
Your not old you just know what and where you want to hunt
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: vandeman17 on December 08, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
This is my 2cents.   I’ve been playing the permit game like most on here for over 22 years.  I’ve been applying for hard to draw tags, including all the oil tags (once in a lifetime), 22 years (points) for quality elk, bull elk, 13 for quality deer and 18 for oil’s. There are a couple ways to play this game, apply for permits that are easier to draw or go for gold.  Going for those very tough draws could cost you your youth and years, decades, waiting, getting old in the process.  If you want to hunt your favorite animal every year, and it isn’t part of your permit goal, as far as location or weapon, apply for ghost points and go hunt!  Always put in for oil tags, very tough to draw but get your permit in the hat!  Apply for multi season elk, when you draw this (average of every 5to 6 years), then put in for your coveted tags.  Multi elk allows you to put in for both sides of the state and for multiple weapons.  Of course if your yearly hunt is in the same area and same weapon, put in every year and don’t ghost point. Hope this makes sense.  Don’t get old waiting for that one permit like me, go hunt and enjoy every season, I regret waiting so long and now I’m pot committed.  Once I draw, I’m done playing the points game, hope I can still walk by then.

Spoken like a boss  :tup:
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: trophyhunt on December 08, 2017, 12:00:55 PM
I should add this, guys a lot smarter than me are saying the odds are only getting worse the more people that get points, I can’t explain point creep but I’m sure some can.
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: vandeman17 on December 08, 2017, 12:36:36 PM
Point creep is basically that the increase in overall points/apps being added to each permit pool is greater than the individual increase in the same pool. The odds go down faster than yours go up.
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: trophyhunt on December 08, 2017, 12:56:38 PM
Point creep is basically that the increase in overall points/apps being added to each permit pool is greater than the individual increase in the same pool. The odds go down faster than yours go up.
like I said, a lot smarter guys than me!  :chuckle: thanks van.  Now, if you want to know how the draw works, that’s another paragraph!
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: vandeman17 on December 08, 2017, 01:12:40 PM
Point creep is basically that the increase in overall points/apps being added to each permit pool is greater than the individual increase in the same pool. The odds go down faster than yours go up.
like I said, a lot smarter guys than me!  :chuckle: thanks van.  Now, if you want to know how the draw works, that’s another paragraph!

every once in a while that expensive college edgumucation comes in handy  :o
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: jackelope on December 08, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
I tend to apply for permits that don't get a lot of chatter. My quality mule deer tag I drew with 4 points, killed a nice buck and have literally never seen it mentioned on this forum again in 7 years since I drew it. My goat tag I drew in a unit that doesn't get talked about a lot. It doesn't have the biggest goats in the state and access, once the snow flies, can be sketchy. I didn't know that when I applied as much as I do now, but I knew it could at least be a factor. 
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: TLEVIN40 on December 08, 2017, 02:26:39 PM
Great advice, thanks.
Title: Re: Applying for Tags/Permits
Post by: Falcon on December 08, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
This is my 2cents.   I’ve been playing the permit game like most on here for over 22 years.  I’ve been applying for hard to draw tags, including all the oil tags (once in a lifetime), 22 years (points) for quality elk, bull elk, 13 for quality deer and 18 for oil’s. There are a couple ways to play this game, apply for permits that are easier to draw or go for gold.  Going for those very tough draws could cost you your youth and years, decades, waiting, getting old in the process.  If you want to hunt your favorite animal every year, and it isn’t part of your permit goal, as far as location or weapon, apply for ghost points and go hunt!  Always put in for oil tags, very tough to draw but get your permit in the hat!  Apply for multi season elk, when you draw this (average of every 5to 6 years), then put in for your coveted tags.  Multi elk allows you to put in for both sides of the state and for multiple weapons.  Of course if your yearly hunt is in the same area and same weapon, put in every year and don’t ghost point. Hope this makes sense.  Don’t get old waiting for that one permit like me, go hunt and enjoy every season, I regret waiting so long and now I’m pot committed.  Once I draw, I’m done playing the points game, hope I can still walk by then.

 :yeah:   Some good advice right there :tup:
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