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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: KFhunter on December 17, 2017, 02:46:22 PM
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:hello:
We're getting snow, late archery is done, and I pretty much have the woods to myself now :IBCOOL: I'm itching to get out there, looking for #5 cat called in. Boooya!
Here I'll toss up some pics, and cross my fingers..... a big dead cat. This is all public land, CNF and some timber ground.
I'm using a couple rainshadow calls and some sounds I hijacked off youtube. One in particular sounds very promising. I'm also using some predator calls, and yotes too ;) for calling cats.
So if you're boot hunting the lions this year post up some logs, youtube some vids, share some setups and let's put some cats down :tup:
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I’ve heard all of the quotas have been met in the SE. That only leaves a couple weeks for my areas. Going to try and get out at least once. Hoping for some snow.
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I'll be putting on the miles this week with the fresh snow expected to fall. Hopefully on skis if we get enough snow. I followed a cougar track for 7 miles last week. Didn't need snowshoes. I have a couple areas in the 346 where cats hang out when there's a foot or more of snow on the ground.
I think at least one area will close on the 31st around here.
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I always give it a try but haven't been successful yet.
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I’m planning a try or two this year, but frankly don’t know what kind of ground to focus on. Seems like the consensus is areas with decent deer or elk herds, and just put boots to ground (or snow) then call when you are in an area with good tracks or walk them down in more open country. Anybody have advice they would be willing to share with someone unafraid to put in some solid miles on foot? I don’t have an ATV or snowmobile.
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I am for the first time. Cant kill Wolves so need to help the Deer some how. So one less cat is the ticket :tup:
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:hello:
We're getting snow, late archery is done, and I pretty much have the woods to myself now :IBCOOL: I'm itching to get out there, looking for #5 cat called in. Boooya!
Here I'll toss up some pics, and cross my fingers..... a big dead cat. This is all public land, CNF and some timber ground.
I'm using a couple rainshadow calls and some sounds I hijacked off youtube. One in particular sounds very promising. I'm also using some predator calls, and yotes too ;) for calling cats.
So if you're boot hunting the lions this year post up some logs, youtube some vids, share some setups and let's put some cats down :tup:
You might not be alone. Just like last year it will have reached the quota before Jan.1 I keep hearing about "Grumpy "OL" men with guns" .
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I’ve got 2 places that seem promising for cougars. Both have had livestock attacked so hopefully one of them feel like a free meal will be easier! Gotta get after it though, the month is going by quick!
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I'm all in. East side and west side. Any advise will not be invasive. Let's do it :llam:
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I’m planning a try or two this year, but frankly don’t know what kind of ground to focus on. Seems like the consensus is areas with decent deer or elk herds, and just put boots to ground (or snow) then call when you are in an area with good tracks or walk them down in more open country. Anybody have advice they would be willing to share with someone unafraid to put in some solid miles on foot? I don’t have an ATV or snowmobile.
I'm all in. East side and west side. Any advise will not be invasive. Let's do it :llam:
I like to hunt above cattle operations, there's always deer around cows and behind them there's usually a cat up in the hillsides, talk to the ranchers they'll normally be glad to have a hunter get after a cat even though they'd tell you to get lost if you asked to hunt deer...and if you happen to get a cat be sure to show them, maybe offer them a loin or something but they'll probably decline.. they might invite you back for deer too :tup:
Concentrate hunting around 3000-4000 feet as they'll move down in the winter months just above the deer at 3000 on down but you can find them on the flats lower, I've even tracked them across the river ice. If you can find a rock ridge line that runs a ways with big outcroppings you're on the right track. Cats will knock down a deer about once a week or 6-7 days on average unless it's a female with kits/subs. I think big toms can be a little sooner too. If they're on a fresh kill they won't come too far unless you get close with vocals of another cat, but if you find them at that 5th or 6th day they're more game to come a ways to a predator call, then suck em in with vocals.
Speaking of vocals, a good E caller I think is a must. For cold calling (no sign or evidence of a cat nearby) I like to open up with a deer distress, loud bleating and obnoxious, it really wakes up everyone in the woods and they focus on your location. I let everything sit for a while quiet then I'll whistle, normally with a whistle I'll know if a cat is coming in. It sure is fun to hear a cat whistle back then you can track their progress as they move in. That'll get you excited :chuckle:
If I'm on a fresh cat track I'll do vocals, chirps mostly. I don't want them to sneak in but saunter up like their going to greet another cat. This is if I know I'm pretty close, tracking while the snow is falling or spot a kill.
what not to do:
don't move. Cats spot movement way more than deer or coyotes, any flicker of movement and they've got you. They'll study you for a long time and unless you see em you're essentially busted, they'll slink off when you stand up or call the stand done. I had one climb a little knob and watch me for over an hour, all I could see was a dark blob that was it's face and I talked myself out of it being a cat :bash: don't talk yourself out of seeing a cat, memorize your surroundings and look for something where nothing was then glass it )without moving :chuckle: ) Positioning yourself where you can see the approach of a cat is the hardest part of cat hunting, call a few in and not being able to shoot them and you'll see what I mean.
Don't put a decoy out in the open where a cat can see it. They won't come in like a coyote, they'll sit and watch most times. It's better to hide your call in a hole, or steep crease where you can see a cat putting the sneak on from a different angle. They'll normally come down to a call. For coyotes you want your call out and visible, but for cats you want to hide it so they have to sneak in closer to see it.
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Been out a few times already ,with no luck.Cut tracks a few times durring deer season but nothing lately ,also been coyote hunting few times,did a call set ,30min,walking back to truck ,me and coyote see each other same time,try to get the crosshairs on him at a dead run through trees but no luck,will try to get out soon again. :tup:
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:tup:
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Where do you see what areas have quotas filled? This might be a great feb time killer, just don’t tell my wife. Haha
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Where do you see what areas have quotas filled? This might be a great feb time killer, just don’t tell my wife. Haha
Some of the areas with a ton of cats and a tiny ridiculous quota have historically had their quotas filled by Jan 1, so they don't get the late season opener that starts Jan1.
After Jan 1 (late season) you have to check with WDFW daily to see if the late season is still open, but all the units are guaranteed to stay open until the end of Dec for the early season.
This is where you check
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/cougar/
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Thanks!
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My experience matches KFhunter's and there is not much to add. Great advice. I was busted twice last year and twice the year before that I know of. As stated, they hunt with their eyes and will sit and watch for the slightest movement. According to a game agent I spoke with, the SE GMU's have hit the quota as of weeks ago. Get out and give it a try......as stated by others.....it is very exciting to see one come in to a call or find the tracks where one has sat down near your calling set. To trick a major predator on his own turf is an accomplishment.
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We're hitting the 101 next week. Should be good, there's supposed to be lots of fresh snow.
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I was hoping to hit 328 second week of January.....hope it's still open.
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We're hitting the 101 next week. Should be good, there's supposed to be lots of fresh snow.
You better bring chains,weather changing daily,snow,rain,then freezing temps is normal. :tup:
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We're hitting the 101 next week. Should be good, there's supposed to be lots of fresh snow.
You better bring chains,weather changing daily,snow,rain,then freezing temps is normal. :tup:
Yeah, we've been keeping an eye on the weather. Our cabin is at 3100 feet, it's looks like it's going to be bitterly cold, close to 0. Burr!
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I didn't have enough time to go hunting so I did a little scouting for tomorrow morning and it look really promising
edit: got too much snow, had to plow, didn't get out :(
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I found where a cougar has been hanging out the last few weeks. Just need to be in the right place at the right time. Back at it on Friday.
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I found where a cougar has been hanging out the last few weeks. Just need to be in the right place at the right time. Back at it on Friday.
Didn't make it up yesterday and only had an hour before dark today. Fresh tracks all over the road. :IBCOOL. I'll be up there tomorrow and a Christmas doing some more scouting and coming up with a game plan.
Hopefully @rainshadow1 has time to go up with me next week to show him the area before the season closes.
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Well they're fully primed now, I noticed my barn cats have really fluffed up this last week, they look twice again as big :chuckle:
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The place I was hoping to hit this winter took out 5 within five miles of their properties last winter... should have been there then, I guess.
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I killed a cougar this summer while it was going after livestock on our property(had to turn the cat in as it was out of season) and then we had another cougar come back and kill 4 sheep and a llama all in one night during October. I plan to put a call out a few times on our property this winter and see if that one isn't still lurking around.
They're sneaky buggers, that's for sure.
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Lost a fresh track today at the cliff. Wasn't any back tracking by the cat and scanned 180°.
Back at it tomorrow. Same area. The fresh snow falling will help immensely.
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Looks like you're zoned in on one, good luck tomorrow :tup:
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Well hopefully that's the last time I leave a bolt to a gun sitting on the bench. I would of had a dead kitty otherwise. Heard it as soon as I got out of the truck.
Tracks heading down the road and up to where they were at.
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Always boot hunting cougar whether by .30 cal or 20 megapixel!
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One less cougar in the 101. It's not mine or I would share :IBCOOL:
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I'll be in the 101 this week and weekend before your buddy has a chance to get it sealed and close the unit :chuckle:
Hope it stays open a while, I sure hate these quotas.
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I'll be in the 101 this week and weekend before your buddy has a chance to get it sealed and close the unit :chuckle:
Hope it stays open a while, I sure hate these quotas.
Your going to drive to 101.
Don't tell me they have shot BOTH of the quota already. :yike:
That means 2 of the predators are off limits and the 3rd one is or should be taking a nap. :dunno: There's always a few troublesome yotes to throw lead at as well.
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I'll be in the 101 this week and weekend before your buddy has a chance to get it sealed and close the unit :chuckle:
Hope it stays open a while, I sure hate these quotas.
Your going to drive to 101.
Don't tell me they have shot BOTH of the quota already. :yike:
That means 2 of the predators are off limits and the 3rd one is or should be taking a nap. :dunno: There's always a few troublesome yotes to throw lead at as well.
yotes are really active
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:tup:
If it's hard water that's tuff to whitefish below the bridge also.
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If I had a snowmobile I would go to 101 ,I'm up there on daily basis for work,but to lazy to walk,and most areas I want to go has deep snow.
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you don't need a snowmobile or even have to walk all that far
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:tup:
If it's hard water that's tuff to whitefish below the bridge also.
I'm not seeing whitefish like I used too :dunno: I think the lake roosevelt is the place to go
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I've been out once this year. Not enough snow on the west side to get on some tracks. I got real close a couple of times last year. Had one talking to me the year before. I plan on going out this weekend and cold calling a couple spots where some co-workers have seen them a few times in the last couple months. Praying for snow, but the forecast isn't looking good.
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I've been out once this year. Not enough snow on the west side to get on some tracks. I got real close a couple of times last year. Had one talking to me the year before. I plan on going out this weekend and cold calling a couple spots where some co-workers have seen them a few times in the last couple months. Praying for snow, but the forecast isn't looking good.
Me too, stuck to the west side from here on out. Someone seen a coug about 3 weeks ago on our road, so we'll focus on that. Snow sure would help though.
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cougar update is as follows:
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/cougar/
Hunt Area
Late Hunting Season
Harvest
Guideline
Status
GMU 101
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
7-9
Open
(Open)
GMU 105
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
2
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 108, 111
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Closed
(Closed)
GMU 113
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMU 117
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
6-8
Closed
(Closed)
GMU 121
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 124, 127, 130
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
7-9
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 133, 136, 139, 142, 248, 254, 260, 262, 266, 269, 272, 278, 284, 290, 330, 334, 371, 372, 373, 379, 381
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
None
Open
(Open )
GMUs 145, 166, 175, 178
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3-4
Open
(Open)
GMUs 149, 154, 162, 163
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4-5
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 169, 172, 181, 186
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3
Open
(Open )
GMU 203
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5
Open
(Open)
GMU 204
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
6-8
Open
(Open)
GMUs 209, 215
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4
Open
(Open)
GMUs 218, 231
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMU 224
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
2
Open
(Open )
GMUs 233, 239
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4
Open
(Open )
GMUs 242, 243
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open )
GMUs 244, 246, 247
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open )
GMUs 245, 250
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMUs 249, 251
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMUs 328, 329, 335
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
6-7
Open
(Open)
GMUs 336, 340, 342, 346
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 352, 356, 360, 364, 368
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMUs 382, 388
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3-4
Open
(Open)
GMU 407
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
None
Open
(Open)
GMUs 418, 426, 437
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
11-15
Open
(Open)
GMUs 448, 450
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
10-13
Open
(Open)
GMU 454
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
None
Open
(Open)
GMU 460
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMUs 466, 485a, 490
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3
Open
(Open)
GMUs 501, 504, 506, 530
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
8-10
Open
(Open)
GMUs 503, 505, 520, 550
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
6-8
Open
(Open)
GMUs 510, 513
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3-4
Open
(Open)
GMU 516
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4
Open
(Open)
GMUs 524, 554, 556
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3
Open
(Open)
GMU 560
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-6
Open
(Open)
GMU 564
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
1
Closed
(Closed)
GMU 568
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
2
Open
(Open)
GMU 572
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3
Open
(Open)
GMUs 574, 578
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 601, 602, 603, 612
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5-7
Open
(Open)
GMUs 607, 615
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4
Open
(Open)
GMUs 618, 636, 638
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
4-5
Open
(Open)
GMUs 621, 624, 627, 633
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
None
Open
(Open)
GMUs 642, 648, 651
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
6-8
Closed
(Closed)
GMUs 652, 666
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
None
Open
(Open)
GMUs 653, 654
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
5
Open
(Open)
GMUs 658, 660, 663, 672, 673, 681, 684, 699
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
9-12
Open
(Open)
GMU 667
Jan. 1, 2018 - April 30, 2018
3-4
Open
(Open)
a Hunters possessing a deer or elk special permit for GMU 485 may hunt cougar in this unit during that permit hunt.
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I'm on the 437 with one of the highest quotas.... quotas :rolleyes: so stupid.
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If I said what I really thought about WDFW with their quota's I'd have to ban myself.
According to the website they update weekly, but it's been updated every day and now 101 is closed and I'm not driving to 113 to get started over there just to have it shut down while I'm out walking around in the snow scouting a new area. According to their site I should have had a week to chase cats because the site was just updated yesterday, and now it's updated again today :bash:
The hotline and website will be updated weekly beginning January 1, 2018
^ that's a lie, it's updated daily
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If I said what I really thought about WDFW with their quota's I'd have to ban myself.
According to the website they update weekly, but it's been updated every day and now 101 is closed and I'm not driving to 113 to get started over there just to have it shut down while I'm out walking around in the snow scouting a new area. According to their site I should have had a week to chase cats because the site was just updated yesterday, and now it's updated again today :bash:
The hotline and website will be updated weekly beginning January 1, 2018
^ that's a lie, it's updated daily
I do believe someone has their "Mad Panties" on.
It's pretty sad when both of your favorite choices used to have a 20 cat quota when you could run them with hounds. Now the quota is a lot less and They are closed before they ever open. Total harvest for 105 in 2016 was 5 and 10 for 101.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2016/reports/cougar.php
Is this due to the fact there are less of them? If you talk to some of the cattle ranchers they will argue that.
Guess we are going to be slinging lead at the local yote population.
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If I said what I really thought about WDFW with their quota's I'd have to ban myself.
According to the website they update weekly, but it's been updated every day and now 101 is closed and I'm not driving to 113 to get started over there just to have it shut down while I'm out walking around in the snow scouting a new area. According to their site I should have had a week to chase cats because the site was just updated yesterday, and now it's updated again today :bash:
The hotline and website will be updated weekly beginning January 1, 2018
^ that's a lie, it's updated daily
I do believe someone has their "Mad Panties" on.
It's pretty sad when both of your favorite choices used to have a 20 cat quota when you could run them with hounds. Now the quota is a lot less and They are closed before they ever open. Total harvest for 105 in 2016 was 5 and 10 for 101.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2016/reports/cougar.php
Is this due to the fact there are less of them? If you talk to some of the cattle ranchers they will argue that.
Guess we are going to be slinging lead at the local yote population.
I started hunting 101 last year and I've never seen so much cougar sign in my life. Many of the land owners I talked to would mention "please if you see a cougar just shoot it." Sounds like they're becoming a real problem.
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Wow they shut down 101 fast. :yike:
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Wouldn't it be helpful if they posted some where what the harvest totals where to date. :dunno:
I know I am hoping for a perfect world.
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I have been doing some calling in 673. I have been able to get out a couple of times but nothing as of yet. This is my first year hunting them and I will keep you all posted
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If I said what I really thought about WDFW with their quota's I'd have to ban myself.
According to the website they update weekly, but it's been updated every day and now 101 is closed and I'm not driving to 113 to get started over there just to have it shut down while I'm out walking around in the snow scouting a new area. According to their site I should have had a week to chase cats because the site was just updated yesterday, and now it's updated again today :bash:
The hotline and website will be updated weekly beginning January 1, 2018
^ that's a lie, it's updated daily
I do believe someone has their "Mad Panties" on.
It's pretty sad when both of your favorite choices used to have a 20 cat quota when you could run them with hounds. Now the quota is a lot less and They are closed before they ever open. Total harvest for 105 in 2016 was 5 and 10 for 101.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2016/reports/cougar.php
Is this due to the fact there are less of them? If you talk to some of the cattle ranchers they will argue that.
Guess we are going to be slinging lead at the local yote population.
They're adding the depredation kills to the general hunting kills :bash:
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Don't forget the "Other" category also. One get run over and it counts also. Without giving them ideas no tribal harvest show either.