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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Dan-o on December 19, 2017, 09:44:09 PM

Title: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: Dan-o on December 19, 2017, 09:44:09 PM: I'm no wildcatter - at all.
So, this may be the stupidest question of the year......

But Biggerhammers AR-10 just made me wonder....... Anybody ever neck a 45/70 down to say 35ish caliber?

I wonder what the ballistics would look like.
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 19, 2017, 09:51:06 PM: I think the .33 WCF was a necked tapered .45-70. The ballistics are kind of meh. The .50-110 was necked to .348 and wildcatters have opened to .35 and it is between the .358 Win and the .35 Whelen.
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 21, 2017, 06:22:29 PM: Just too much hassle to go through, I suppose. If you were P.O. Ackley back in the day, why would you bother with necking down an old-school, huge .45 cal rimmed cartridge (which would take multiple steps), when there were so many better, higher case capacity, rimless cartridges available later on during the dawn of the wildcatting era (1950's-60's). Just a guess.
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: yorketransport on December 21, 2017, 09:46:19 PM: I've thought about trying it just for fun. You'd end up with something like the JDJ wildcats based off of the 444 Marlin case. I think a 45/70 necked down to 375 in a Marlin 1895 would be a pretty fun set up.
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2017, 10:48:24 PM: Thanks Yorke.

I picked up a Marlin in 45/70 and that's what got me to wondering. I bet a 375/70 would pack a pretty good punch, and with better trajectory than the 45/70.

Might make it a legit medium range gun?
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: coachcw on December 22, 2017, 06:19:24 AM: Just run one of the lighter .45 bullets pretty much same difference
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: daddysprad on December 22, 2017, 06:32:14 AM: I have a Marlin 1885 in 40-65. All of the ammo I have shot out of it is 45-70 necked down. I bought the reloads years ago because the original factory ammo is worth quite a bit..
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: yorketransport on December 22, 2017, 06:52:31 AM: I’d say you’d be good for 250 yards at least. It would probably duplicate the performance of the 358 And 356 Win, and that’s not a bad thing!
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: smdave on December 22, 2017, 12:46:03 PM: They call this the 35 Greevy Express
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2017, 12:58:40 PM: Quote from: smdave on December 22, 2017, 12:46:03 PM
They call this the 35 Greevy Express

I like it!👍☝️
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: Dan-o on December 22, 2017, 01:04:14 PM: That is exactly what I was thinking of.

I think that would be a blast and a good brush gun.
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: T-Bone on December 22, 2017, 02:22:41 PM: Someone has already come up with the idea for AR fans:
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/phoenix-weaponry-debuts-ar-based-45-70-auto-rifle/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20171222_FridayDigest_153&utm_campaign=/blog/phoenix-weaponry-debuts-ar-based-45-70-auto-rifle/
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: N7XW on December 22, 2017, 02:28:57 PM: Quote from: smdave on December 22, 2017, 12:46:03 PM
They call this the 35 Greevy Express
Kinda looks like a 30-30 on steroids.
Title: Re: Anybody ever wildcat (neck down) a 45/70?
Post by: AWS on December 25, 2017, 12:35:20 PM: I just read Watters article on the Greevey Express, the inventor built it on a rebarrelled Marlin 1895 and Watters did his on a Siamese Mauser(A Mauser designed for rimmed cartridges).