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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: chiwawadan on December 22, 2017, 11:44:37 AM

Title: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: chiwawadan on December 22, 2017, 11:44:37 AM: I have a question for you more experienced shooters out there. I'm zero'd at 100yds with remington core lokt 150gr 30-06 ammo. Heading up to the mountains and only have a few bullets left... Issaquah locations don't have the Remington's I would prefer - at least today on my way out of town. Winchester 150grs are available. Will my POI be negligible or am I better off zeroing in again on the Winchesters?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 22, 2017, 11:47:15 AM: The only way to tell for sure would be to shoot them and see.
They may be exactly the same at 100 yards or they could be a ways off.
Bullet differences, brass differences, powder, and velocity differences could make poi very different potentially
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: chiwawadan on December 22, 2017, 11:50:00 AM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on December 22, 2017, 11:47:15 AM
The only way to tell for sure would be to shoot them and see.
They may be exactly the same at 100 yards or they could be a ways off.
Bullet differences, brass differences, powder, and velocity differences could make poi very different potentially

I had a feeling that was the case.

Any folks around Issaquah have Remington Core Lokt 150grs for 30-06 hanging around I can pick up before I head over the pass this afternoon? :chuckle:

Maybe instead of worrying about it I'll test the half dozen of each I have and see what that difference actually is? Thanks for the input!
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: Bob33 on December 22, 2017, 11:50:13 AM: It is likely to be different but you can't know how much without shooting the new ammunition. I'd hunt with the few rounds you have that the gun is sighted in with. :twocents:
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: Skillet on December 22, 2017, 11:51:54 AM: :yeah:
And your gun may just not group the Winchesters at all. Best to check it out, imho
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: bobcat on December 22, 2017, 12:32:25 PM: Even if you were to buy a new box of Remington ammo, there's no guarantee it will shoot the same as the ammo your rifle is sighted in with. What is it that you're hunting? For bigger targets at close distances, it may not matter. But you do need to confidence in your gun. I always want to be sighted in with ammo that I know is exactly the same as what I'm hunting with.
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 22, 2017, 12:41:30 PM: Quote from: bobcat on December 22, 2017, 12:32:25 PM
Even if you were to buy a new box of Remington ammo, there's no guarantee it will shoot the same as the ammo your rifle is sighted in with. What is it that you're hunting? For bigger targets at close distances, it may not matter. But you do need to confidence in your gun. I always want to be sighted in with ammo that I know is exactly the same as what I'm hunting with.
:yeah: there is a reason that shooters who are into precision buy powder, bullets, and brass from the same manufacture lot in bulk.

I'll bet rem to rem if there is a shift in POI, it will be minimal. Like Bob33 said, hunt with what you have and maybe pick up a box of something else. If you for some reason shoot through the good stuff, make time to shoot a few of the new to check zero and accuracy. Adjust shot distance based off new accuracy and keep hunting :tup:
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: chiwawadan on December 22, 2017, 01:08:02 PM: The good thing is that I'm not out shooting animals this weekend - just target practicing and running low on ammo. But, I wanted to get everyone's take on this.
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 22, 2017, 01:32:56 PM: Shooting tipped bullets to non-tipped not unusual to shift 2 - 5 inches even. Untipped to untipped maybe 1-2”.
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: bobcat on December 22, 2017, 01:44:12 PM: I'd agree with 1 to 2 inches, between Winchester 150 grain Power Points and Remington 150 grain Core Lokts. They may also shoot to nearly the same point of impact but I'd expect them to be at least an inch apart. More than 2 inches I'd be surprised. But again no way to know without actually shooting them in your rifle.
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 22, 2017, 01:52:13 PM: Quote from: chiwawadan on December 22, 2017, 01:08:02 PM
The good thing is that I'm not out shooting animals this weekend - just target practicing and running low on ammo. But, I wanted to get everyone's take on this.
well in that case you need all the boolits
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: shootem on December 22, 2017, 10:20:27 PM: In my opinion there is no reason to think 2 different brands with 2 different bullets will shooot the same at all even if they are the same weight.
Title: Re: 150gr 30-06, Change in POI between brands?
Post by: KFhunter on December 22, 2017, 11:40:04 PM: Quote from: Karl Blanchard on December 22, 2017, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: chiwawadan on December 22, 2017, 01:08:02 PM
The good thing is that I'm not out shooting animals this weekend - just target practicing and running low on ammo. But, I wanted to get everyone's take on this.
well in that case you need all the boolits

agree 100% shoot them all up and be done with it. Next year switch to Hornady Superformance 165 SST