Post by: Camo on December 28, 2017, 03:37:02 PM
Before I go any further and get crucified here. I understand that every year, there are “impressions” and verbalized contempt regarding out of state hunters in most western states. Most of which, I want to believe, (though unacceptable) are isolated incidents, that end up labeling an entire community. I also believe, from a PR standpoint, that most F&G representatives from any state, are going to be overly cognizant of this before they start making generalizations.
The previous sentence is the reason I am posting this. Based off our “very general” conversation, my “impression” is that there were enough incidents that took place during this past season that not only made Washington hunters stand out above all others, but more specifically hunters from the west side of the state, which would include me. Therefore, I am taking this personally and felt that it was my responsibility to pass this observation on to others. I greatly appreciate the experience and opportunity that Idaho and all other states afford me, which is why I spend the time and money to go there. I assume, like everyone else that does the same? Therefore, I will respect the laws, the landscape, and ethical responsibilities that come with it. Not only leaving it a better place for me to return to next year, but actually welcoming me back.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 28, 2017, 03:45:02 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 28, 2017, 03:49:43 PM
Nothing more.
Post by: lord grizzly on December 28, 2017, 04:00:51 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on December 28, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
A Washington game agent in eastern Washington told me that they had more trouble with hunters from Sedro Woolley than any other area.
We have a long ways to go on ethics. :twocents:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 28, 2017, 04:06:07 PM
As for generalizing about hunters' character based on where they live, that's a BS game. No better than racism or other bias really. I bet Washington hunters are the #1 or #2 nonresident hunter constituency in Idaho, and since most Washingtonians live in the greater Pugetropolis area, it stands to reason a fair number of their violators will be from there. It would be pretty ignorant to extrapolate from those demographics that western Washington hunters tend to be less ethical than others.
Post by: Camo on December 28, 2017, 04:22:29 PM
Idaho is eager to learn who is buying their tags and what they can do to keep them buying them. IMO I wouldn't read much more into it than that :dunno:There was additional "generic" conversation following that question that leads me to believe there was "some" substance behind the question.
The only conclusion I can reach from that is that they have a poorly trained agent who asked an inappropriate question.In this PC era that I live in, I personally appreciate a constructive "inappropriate" question. I would rather know what is going on as opposed to some new law or rule restricting me from something I didn't know was a problem. Maybe I can't innfluence it, but it won't be a surprise.
Nothing more.
Post by: Torrent50 on December 28, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 28, 2017, 07:08:44 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 28, 2017, 07:30:56 PM
Post by: sumpnz on December 28, 2017, 07:37:28 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 28, 2017, 08:05:37 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 28, 2017, 08:14:53 PM
Shudda asked that person if they litter when they drive through Washington ?
Lmao
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 28, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 28, 2017, 08:24:52 PM
Post by: Alan K on December 28, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
Some of the conversations I've had about Washington hunters over a drink with born and raised Idahoans cannot be discussed here as it is not suited for the general audience.
:yeah: :chuckle:
Post by: idahohuntr on December 28, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Some of the conversations I've had about Washington hunters over a drink with born and raised Idahoans cannot be discussed here as it is not suited for the general audience.:chuckle:
Once I get to idaho my Wa plated truck stays parked...dads old wood truck does just fine!
Post by: hughjorgan on December 28, 2017, 08:41:22 PM
Personally I'd love to see a wall go up on our border to the people's republic of Washington/Oregon/California. But that probably wouldn't be the best thing for revenue. I'm sure he asked you for good reason...
Good news for you more Californians are moving to your state every year, so pretty soon you to will get to be part of the peoples republic of California. :bash:
Post by: Camo on December 28, 2017, 09:12:53 PM
I appreciate having any F&G department as a resource tool and do not wish to be categorized as unethical to start off that conversation due to actions of others. I do not have a problem with asking a potential hunting partner if they are ethical hunters. Therefore, I don’t have a problem being asked, regardless if it is a state run agency. I don’t pay taxes there, I go there as a visitor, by my choice, but I will continue to self-police anywhere I visit as if it were my home. If this conversation results in one individual making more ethical decisions in the field going forward, then it worked.
Post by: Odell on December 28, 2017, 09:26:23 PM