Post by: ffbowhunter on January 01, 2018, 12:56:50 PM
Post by: cem3434 on January 01, 2018, 03:37:07 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 01, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
Post by: ffbowhunter on January 01, 2018, 05:12:46 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 01, 2018, 05:35:29 PM
I archery hunt elk which is why I figured type 9 is for me. I wouldn’t rifle hunt there. I am leaning towards putting in for harder to draw units and praying I get lucky with drawing the Gila in New Mexico!if you find a good archery unit, I’d love a pm. I’m looking to Idaho or Wyoming with a couple good buddies for a new bow elk hunt.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 01, 2018, 05:53:23 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 01, 2018, 05:59:02 PM
I would just draw the general WY tag and go hunt.to me the Wyoming regs are confusing as hell, can you hunt unit 62 with archery with a general tag?
Post by: vandeman17 on January 01, 2018, 06:05:04 PM
I would just draw the general WY tag and go hunt.to me the Wyoming regs are confusing as hell, can you hunt unit 62 with archery with a general tag?
Tag and I agree. Every time I think I get my head wrapped around their regs I read something that throws me for a loop.
Post by: Bob33 on January 01, 2018, 06:05:07 PM
You can hunt in September with archery equipment if you purchase an archery license.I would just draw the general WY tag and go hunt.to me the Wyoming regs are confusing as hell, can you hunt unit 62 with archery with a general tag?
Post by: Bigshooter on January 01, 2018, 08:00:38 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 01, 2018, 08:15:03 PM
Bob, I think you have to have a draw tag to hunt some of those units. Not the general tag. So if you drew any of those rifle tags you could buy the archery license and then hunt those units. For example if you drew a unit 100 tag you could hunt the archery season. And if you drew the general tag you could hunt the archery season in any of the general rifle units that are listed. Not all of the units that are list are general season units.Yes, although I thought the question pertained to someone with a unit 62 tag. Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 01, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on January 01, 2018, 09:22:21 PM
Post by: ffbowhunter on January 01, 2018, 09:37:23 PM
Post by: Clearcut on January 02, 2018, 04:59:19 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 02, 2018, 06:18:42 AM
Post by: dscubame on January 02, 2018, 06:24:46 AM
The muddy waters are starting to clear up for me, thank you guys. So can I put in for my hard to draw type 1 unit 62 as my first choice, then do a type 9 easier draw unit as my second? And if drawn for my second choice, keep my 10 points?
That's correct you lose your points only by drawing first choice.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 02, 2018, 06:58:59 AM
Dang, all these years I've only put in for my one choice!! Anyone know a good second choice for archery I should be putting in for, doesn't have to be a trophy unit?The muddy waters are starting to clear up for me, thank you guys. So can I put in for my hard to draw type 1 unit 62 as my first choice, then do a type 9 easier draw unit as my second? And if drawn for my second choice, keep my 10 points?
That's correct you lose your points only by drawing first choice.
Post by: ffbowhunter on January 02, 2018, 08:01:29 AM
The muddy waters are starting to clear up for me, thank you guys. So can I put in for my hard to draw type 1 unit 62 as my first choice, then do a type 9 easier draw unit as my second? And if drawn for my second choice, keep my 10 points?I would double check that you can even draw a type 9 second choice with a regular tag.
Post by: Netminder01 on January 02, 2018, 08:26:55 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 02, 2018, 08:32:46 AM
ok, I will call when I can, thanks for the helpThe muddy waters are starting to clear up for me, thank you guys. So can I put in for my hard to draw type 1 unit 62 as my first choice, then do a type 9 easier draw unit as my second? And if drawn for my second choice, keep my 10 points?I would double check that you can even draw a type 9 second choice with a regular tag.
Post by: Bob33 on January 02, 2018, 08:36:33 AM
For nonresident full price elk, deer and antelope, preference points can be accumulated either by submitting the applicable fee when applying for the initial limited quota drawing for licenses or by purchasing a preference point during the preference point only application period as per the dates on page 3.
If the nonresident applicant wants to accumulate preference points in the initial license drawing, they must select the fee option that includes the preference point fees for full price elk, deer and antelope licenses. The preference point fees that must be remitted are $52 for elk, $41 for deer and $31 for antelope ($10 for youth for each species). These applicants will be awarded a preference point if unsuccessful in drawing their first choice.
For nonresident full price elk, full price deer and full price antelope, an individual’s accumulated preference points are only considered in the initial drawing for the applicant’s first choice in the preference point drawing.
If the applicant submits the appropriate preference point fee with their license application for the initial license drawing and does not draw their first choice, they will be awarded a preference point for the year in which the application was submitted. Drawing a license for your second or third choice does not cause preference points to be deleted and the applicant will still be awarded a preference point for the year.
For nonresident full price elk, full price deer and full price antelope, an applicant will lose all accumulated preference points if they draw their first choice license in the initial limited quota drawing or if they fail to purchase a preference point in the initial drawing or during the appropriate application period for two (2) consecutive years.
For party applications, all of the applicants’ preference point totals will be averaged to determine the preference point ranking used in the initial preference point drawing.
There are no preference points for reduced price cow/calf or reduced price doe/fawn licenses. Applicants for reduced price licenses do not lose their preference points if successful in the reduced price license drawing, nor do they accumulate preference points if they are unsuccessful drawing these license types.
Some suggestions when applying for licenses with the preference point option: to maintain your preference points, do not apply for an easy-to-draw area as your first choice. If you do and are successful, then all of your accumulated points will be deleted and the odds of drawing a license in a hard-to-draw area will be diminished for several years until you build up 14 preference points again. If you desire to hunt more often without sacrificing your preference points, continue to apply for your preferred (hard-to-draw) hunt area as a first choice and apply for easy-to-draw hunt areas as your second choice. By reviewing the random drawing odds from previous years, you can find hunt areas with good odds of drawing a license as a second and possibly a third choice. On the other hand, it is nearly certain you will draw a license in a hunt area with 100% odds listed for the second choice drawing. However, be advised that drawing odds can and do change from year to year as applicants shift their preferences for specific hunt areas. The prior year’s drawing odds are a useful indicator of relative odds, but provide no absolute guarantees.
Post by: jmscon on January 02, 2018, 09:41:00 AM
Post by: ffbowhunter on January 02, 2018, 10:00:14 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 02, 2018, 10:09:20 AM
Well my app is in time to roll the dice!best of luck!
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 02, 2018, 02:56:51 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 03, 2018, 07:41:50 AM
My great hope is that sometime in the near future people will start calling em "archery" instead of "type 9". I also hope I draw a archery tag in WY sometime soon...
Since almost every type 1 tag has an archery season attached to it what do you call the type 1 tags? Archery tags, rifle tags or type 1?
So do you want to draw a type 9 tag sometime soon or a type 1 tag? Since both most likely will have an archery season.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 03, 2018, 09:23:46 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 03, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
True dat. Maybe "archery only" tag. I'm looking to draw a archery only tag :)
:chuckle:
Post by: Jpmiller on January 03, 2018, 01:13:29 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 03, 2018, 01:39:28 PM
So if this is dumb I apologize but I'm having a hard time communicating with my family out there to find what unit he typically hunts. If he can buy a general otc elk tag as a resident can I apply for a general elk tag as a nonresident and hunt wherever he is or since I'm non resident I need to specify a unit to apply?
The general tag let's residents and nonresidents hunt the same units. It is the same tag. But nonresidents have to draw it.
Post by: Jpmiller on January 07, 2018, 05:50:08 PM
So if this is dumb I apologize but I'm having a hard time communicating with my family out there to find what unit he typically hunts. If he can buy a general otc elk tag as a resident can I apply for a general elk tag as a nonresident and hunt wherever he is or since I'm non resident I need to specify a unit to apply?
The general tag let's residents and nonresidents hunt the same units. It is the same tag. But nonresidents have to draw it.
Thanks. Can I draw a cow/calf tag without drawing a general tag? I'm only going to be able to hunt a few days during a visit to see family and I want the best odds of driving home with meat.
I'm probably going to have to call fish and game at some point these regs confuse the heck out of me still.
Post by: High Climber on January 07, 2018, 06:55:08 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 08, 2018, 09:10:02 AM
The muddy waters are starting to clear up for me, thank you guys. So can I put in for my hard to draw type 1 unit 62 as my first choice, then do a type 9 easier draw unit as my second? And if drawn for my second choice, keep my 10 points?Yes
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 08, 2018, 09:11:34 AM
So if this is dumb I apologize but I'm having a hard time communicating with my family out there to find what unit he typically hunts. If he can buy a general otc elk tag as a resident can I apply for a general elk tag as a nonresident and hunt wherever he is or since I'm non resident I need to specify a unit to apply?Yes, if you draw a nonresident general elk license you can hunt any unit he can as a resident with a general OTC license.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 08, 2018, 09:19:58 AM
Yes, you can draw a reduced price cow/calf license without drawing a full price tag.So if this is dumb I apologize but I'm having a hard time communicating with my family out there to find what unit he typically hunts. If he can buy a general otc elk tag as a resident can I apply for a general elk tag as a nonresident and hunt wherever he is or since I'm non resident I need to specify a unit to apply?
The general tag let's residents and nonresidents hunt the same units. It is the same tag. But nonresidents have to draw it.
Thanks. Can I draw a cow/calf tag without drawing a general tag? I'm only going to be able to hunt a few days during a visit to see family and I want the best odds of driving home with meat.
I'm probably going to have to call fish and game at some point these regs confuse the heck out of me still.
Post by: Indian Summer on January 08, 2018, 10:02:09 AM
No matter where you go in Wyoming there will be less pressure than in most other states. So draw that tag, go hunt, and start planning your next hunt because you will want to go back as soon as possible. Good luck!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 08, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
The muddy waters are starting to clear up for me, thank you guys. So can I put in for my hard to draw type 1 unit 62 as my first choice, then do a type 9 easier draw unit as my second? And if drawn for my second choice, keep my 10 points?
I wouldn't call 62 a hard to draw area although the success rate is 64%, 64% & 65% the past 3 years. Has 300-320 bulls in it with an exceptional 340 Last year there was a 100% draw for people with 9 points on special lisc draw for that area. So if you do indeed want to spend all you point on 62 then go for it.
Post by: Indian Summer on January 08, 2018, 02:37:06 PM
Post by: Craig on January 08, 2018, 02:42:57 PM
Post by: cem3434 on January 13, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
Post by: Bob33 on January 13, 2018, 09:49:29 AM
Post by: Indian Summer on January 14, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
Post by: CaNINE on January 24, 2018, 07:22:19 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 24, 2018, 07:34:58 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 24, 2018, 08:08:41 AM
Post by: Jpmiller on January 24, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 24, 2018, 11:50:48 AM
The Wyoming bio I talked to at the sheep show in Reno said you'll almost never get drawn for the second choice? Anyone draw second choice often? He also said I have a 50% chance at drawing my unit 62 elk tag this year, 50% minimum, could be higher.I hope you do. However it's literally impossible to predict the draw odds based on preference points...what with 5-50 tags available for NR's in the higher demand units and THOUSANDS of people with 10/11/12 preference points that have just been sitting on the sidelines forever. Especially impossible to predict this year with the price increase...but you gotta put your name in the hat to get selected :)