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Title: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on January 31, 2018, 04:51:44 PM: Hey guys/girls, Im currently working on getting my bow set up for next year. I have some new arrows to go with it. Im shooting Goldtip hunter pro 340s with a 125 field tip, the arrow is weighing in at 418 grains. I would like to get my arrow weight closer to 500 grains. What is the best option? Im not to familiar with FOC . Could I just get heavier field points and then transition to heavy broad heads come this fall? Or would that make the arrow fly all weird. Sorry still learning this Archery thing! Thanks Jason
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: Crunchy on January 31, 2018, 05:05:24 PM: Must be short arrows/draw length? Could opt for a heavier insert..
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on January 31, 2018, 06:33:17 PM: Quote from: Crunchy on January 31, 2018, 05:05:24 PM
Must be short arrows/draw length? Could opt for a heavier insert..
My arrows are 27"
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Post by: demontang on January 31, 2018, 06:37:28 PM: If your running the gold tips get the fact system weights and you can put weight up front which makes a higher foc too.
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Post by: Tjv28 on January 31, 2018, 07:08:53 PM: I’m pretty sure you’ll need a stiffer spline if you add that much weight to the front. I would consider a heavier arrow to start with. But, you could try adding weight to the front and the nock end.
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Post by: Seahawk12 on January 31, 2018, 07:30:19 PM: I bumped a thread up that has an foc calculator in it.
It's top of the bow hunting section right below this thread.
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on January 31, 2018, 07:51:15 PM: Thanks for the bump on the calculation thread. I'm hoping to use the arrows I have . I might not be able to get to 500 grains but would like to add some more weight if possible. It seems like most guys are using 100 -125 grain broardheads?
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Post by: Wolfdog2314 on January 31, 2018, 07:55:17 PM: Came across this today. Something to think about “debunking the FOC theory”. Not saying any one way is better than the other. Just interesting.

Link to the video.

Link to the discussion on archery talk: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5368801&page=3&p=1107101073&utm_source=threadloom&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ed92&utm_content=iss9#/topics/5368801?page=1
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Post by: biggfish on February 01, 2018, 02:23:48 AM: You could use tube weights, it's a shaft that you would put inside your arrow. It won't change foc just overall weight.

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Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: luckyman on February 01, 2018, 05:15:05 AM: You didn't say what your draw length,draw weight or what bow you shoot.
If 340 spine at 27" is where your bow tunes then going with 300's would allow you to leave them longer gaining more gpi. Trying to make a short arrow heavy is kind of taking the long way around.
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on February 01, 2018, 03:15:13 PM: My bow is a hoyt definant turbo , my draw is 26” my draw weight is 65 lbs.
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Post by: Crunchy on February 01, 2018, 04:41:56 PM: My personal thoughts are that your arrow weight is fine. I try to stay in that window of 6 grains per pound of pull which would put you at 390 to 400. I've killed plenty of elk with a 420 grain arrow.
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Post by: luckyman on February 01, 2018, 04:45:31 PM: Since you have gold tip now, I went to the gold tip site and used their spine chart.
Full length Kinetic Pierce Platinum in 250 spine 32"or full length Kinetic in 300 spine 30" will work and I came up with 485 and 486 grains. With heavier insert and maybe lumenoks your there.
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: luckyman on February 01, 2018, 04:48:28 PM: Quote from: Crunchy on February 01, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
My personal thoughts are that your arrow weight is fine. I try to stay in that window of 6 grains per pound of pull which would put you at 390 to 400. I've killed plenty of elk with a 420 grain arrow.

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Post by: demontang on February 01, 2018, 06:17:31 PM: Really don't need a 500 grn arrow in America. I was surprised how well a 370 grn arrow penetrated in africa.
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on February 01, 2018, 06:44:49 PM: Maybe I'm over thinking it. Just stick with the 418 grain weight and skip all the farting around?
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Post by: demontang on February 02, 2018, 08:37:23 AM: A lot of people do. As long as you have a decent foc they will fly well with heads. :tup:
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Post by: dreamingbig on February 09, 2018, 08:53:12 AM: A benefit of a heavier arrow is a quieter bow. Gold tip inserts allow you to use their weight system and screw in extra weight in your preferred increments.

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Post by: solomtnhunter on February 11, 2018, 03:05:12 PM: Not sure why you'd want 500 but to each his own. If i need to make up a little difference in weight i usually use plumbers tape on my broadhead threads.
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Post by: coachcw on February 22, 2018, 06:14:35 AM: your set up will work fantastic with your short draw length . id rather keep as much speed as possible .. I went with a heavy arrow just too be able to run it in both my bows one at 80 the other at 70 lbs . they hurt the 70s performance
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Post by: spoonman on February 22, 2018, 07:33:50 AM: So there is a happy medium with speed and weight that will give you the best kinetic energy. Do you know what your speed us with the 418g arrow? At your draw length adding weight could help or hurt you depending on what your speed is right now.
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on February 22, 2018, 06:55:17 PM: Quote from: spoonman on February 22, 2018, 07:33:50 AM
So there is a happy medium with speed and weight that will give you the best kinetic energy. Do you know what your speed us with the 418g arrow? At your draw length adding weight could help or hurt you depending on what your speed is right now.
I have not shot an arrow thru a chrono yet. Not sure the speed.
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Post by: Milkman on February 22, 2018, 07:27:49 PM: I'm gonna buy one, so you may have to come use it lol
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: JasonG on February 23, 2018, 07:03:50 PM: Quote from: Milkman on February 22, 2018, 07:27:49 PM
I'm gonna buy one, so you may have to come use it lol
Sounds good! Ha
Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: wildernessnut on March 24, 2018, 09:08:19 PM: Quote from: JasonG on January 31, 2018, 04:51:44 PM
Hey guys/girls, Im currently working on getting my bow set up for next year. I have some new arrows to go with it. Im shooting Goldtip hunter pro 340s with a 125 field tip, the arrow is weighing in at 418 grains. I would like to get my arrow weight closer to 500 grains. What is the best option? Im not to familiar with FOC . Could I just get heavier field points and then transition to heavy broad heads come this fall? Or would that make the arrow fly all weird. Sorry still learning this Archery thing! Thanks Jason
Just email gold tip, give them all you bow and arrow component stats and what your end goal is. They will email you with an exact arrow recipe that will get you where you want to be.

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Title: Re: Add some weight to an arrow?
Post by: Stein on March 24, 2018, 09:18:04 PM: For a draw weight of 65#, the people I trust suggest an arrow of 455 max and 422 minimum. With what you have, you could add a brass insert and bump up a few grains into that range. I wouldn't change much, as stated you can underspine pretty easily when you add a bunch up front.