Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 01, 2018, 01:24:06 PM
Location: Somewhere in the spud state elk woods
Hunt Pressure Status: Minimal in the area you’re hunting.
Hunt: Partner Hunt
Date: Mid Elktember
Time: 0830ish
Tag: Archery; bull only.
It's 16 September, 2018 (what a great time to be in the elk woods) and it's the 6th day of your 10 day southern Idaho archery elk hunt (the day of your hunt really doesn't matter, but, it’s just another piece of info). Your buddy shot a bull three days earlier and is now the designated caller for you. After 15 minutes of your buddy doing a real nice breeding sequence, you sense/hear something to your right and within seconds, this amorous young dude walks in silent, stops where he stands now, and is scanning in search of the elk he had heard. You've previously ranged the spot of that cover the bull is standing on the other side of at 25 yards. For the sake of this scenario, the thermals are gently blowing into your snout. Shoot or no shot?
If you say "shoot", save the picture to your desktop and open in MS Paint, you'll be able to place a spot, X, or whatever on the critter before you save it back to a jpg and add the marked up pic with your post.
Post by: Crunchy on March 01, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
Post by: High Climber on March 01, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Post by: npaull on March 01, 2018, 02:36:32 PM
Post by: Stein on March 01, 2018, 02:45:02 PM
Post by: lord grizzly on March 01, 2018, 02:45:54 PM
Post by: hunter399 on March 01, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
I always shoot, :chuckle: :chuckle:
That is very light brush I can see an arrow cutting through like paper.
Post by: Matth on March 01, 2018, 03:04:05 PM
are you guys kidding? that's a dead bullCompletely agree we would be pulling meat from bone already.
Post by: Mfowl on March 01, 2018, 03:16:35 PM
Post by: Special T on March 01, 2018, 03:49:08 PM
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Post by: luckyman on March 01, 2018, 04:30:41 PM
The only way I would pass is if he was all skittish and ready to run any second.
Post by: jrebel on March 01, 2018, 04:51:09 PM
Post by: luckyman on March 01, 2018, 05:08:18 PM
25 yard shot its dead Elk.
At least that's my shot.
Post by: Shawn Ryan on March 01, 2018, 11:35:12 PM
Post by: lamrith on March 02, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Not shooting. I've seen that much brush deflect an arrow enough to make that shot hit solid bone, gut shot, whatever. No need to spoil the hunt and the elk.Ditto. The spot I shoot in my backyard I have had a branch hang low between me and my target (I actually leave it there intentionally so I can learn to avoid and compensate for brush between me and target). A few times I have nicked a leaf as arrow passes at peak of the arc. 20yrds after touch the arrow was over 10" off POA. And that was just a leaf. not a branch, etc.
For me also I take these pictures as literal exactly what the shooter sees, meaning my eye level. There is brush at my eye level (arrow level on release of shot) within a few feet of where I stand, no way the arrow is climbing over that. Then the brush by the bull is full focus, so probably too close to him to drop behind as well. I have no issue threading a needle just too many needle to pass thru on this one for me. If there was JUST the branch close to him, I might consider a shot, but then again he is very poorly positioned and quartering to the shooter, and that alone leave little margin for error.
Post by: Matth on March 02, 2018, 07:01:27 AM
Post by: The scout on March 02, 2018, 07:44:34 AM
Post by: lord grizzly on March 02, 2018, 12:31:07 PM
Post by: Matth on March 02, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
you guys are talking about a 25 yard shot. then again my rig is 82# draw with 525 gr arrows. I've taken this shot (quartering towards and light brush, which this is light) dropped in about 50 yards like they all do:yeah: done it a few times myself.
Post by: Tbob on March 02, 2018, 07:28:03 PM
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Post by: W_Ellison2011 on March 03, 2018, 02:57:41 PM
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Post by: W_Ellison2011 on March 08, 2018, 02:39:34 PM
I've seen this one go badly several times. It takes very little in the way of branch size to deflect an arrow and lose all your penetration. I'd wait until there is a bigger hole. Actually I'd personally wait for a bigger bull too :chuckle:I agree about the branches and arrow deflection.. I have seen it myself. Took a shot at a deer and barely touched a single small vine maple branch and it deflected my arrow. Luckily it was a clean miss and the arrow was easy to find. I'm sure all of us would like a bigger bull.. but them young ones are more tender! lol
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 09, 2018, 08:54:33 AM