Post by: Brushcrawler on March 09, 2018, 07:38:45 AM
Post by: huntnphool on March 09, 2018, 07:40:19 AM
Seems like the raffle sales kicked off pretty heavy for 2018? That’s a lot of tags sold only a few days in!
If you are serious about winning one, that's actually the best way to do it, dump all your money in right away and discourage anyone else from putting a dollar in. :twocents:
Post by: greenhead_killer on March 09, 2018, 08:08:25 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on March 09, 2018, 08:19:05 AM
Where you check to see what’s in so far?
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/
Post by: Naches Sportsman on March 09, 2018, 08:21:26 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on March 09, 2018, 08:23:56 AM
The numbers of tickets sold doesn't mean a whole lot as it takes only 1 ticket to win. I'll be in for elk and goat.
I'd argue that if I have 3,000 tickets and you have 1, I may have better odds - but you are correct - it just takes one.
@Gringo31
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 09, 2018, 08:42:10 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 09, 2018, 08:43:36 AM
Yeah nothing like the those with ALOT of extra cash loading up the raffles super early to give themselves even better odds. Man I hate what these things have become, just another way for the RICH to cut to the front of the line. I'll spend my money elsewhere, I wish they would institute a cap on how many raffle tickets a person could buy in each category. In the end the State just wants the almighty $$$$$$ though.
I'm with you. I thought about maybe buying a few raffle tickets this year, but this makes me change my mind on that directly.
Post by: jackelope on March 09, 2018, 08:44:19 AM
The numbers of tickets sold doesn't mean a whole lot as it takes only 1 ticket to win. I'll be in for elk and goat.
I'd argue that if I have 3,000 tickets and you have 1, I may have better odds - but you are correct - it just takes one.
@Gringo31
Don't forget an obscene amount of luck in that scenario.
Post by: Timberstalker on March 09, 2018, 08:46:07 AM
The numbers of tickets sold doesn't mean a whole lot as it takes only 1 ticket to win. I'll be in for elk and goat.
I'd argue that if I have 3,000 tickets and you have 1, I may have better odds - but you are correct - it just takes one.
@Gringo31
Don't forget an obscene amount of luck in that scenario.
I agree entirely.
More times than not - the big ticket buyers win them.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 09, 2018, 08:46:32 AM
Curtis
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 09, 2018, 08:53:53 AM
Yeah nothing like the those with ALOT of extra cash loading up the raffles super early to give themselves even better odds. Man I hate what these things have become, just another way for the RICH to cut to the front of the line. I'll spend my money elsewhere, I wish they would institute a cap on how many raffle tickets a person could buy in each category. In the end the State just wants the almighty $$$$$$ though.
Agreed. I support the idea of the raffles for conservation $$ but I would also like to see a cap on tickets per person. Otherwise they're basically just selling wildlife, might as well be an auction tag.
Post by: jackelope on March 09, 2018, 09:10:43 AM
Honestly, I am probably going to buy one of those now just because of the rich guys. I'd love to see myself or someone on this forum grab a coveted sheep or goat tag when someone else has dumped $10,000+ into it.
Curtis
Gringo31 did it. It happens
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 09, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
Honestly, I am probably going to buy one of those now just because of the rich guys. I'd love to see myself or someone on this forum grab a coveted sheep or goat tag when someone else has dumped $10,000+ into it.
Curtis
Gringo31 did it. It happens
Last year someone won the NE Big 3 on here. I wish he would have followed up with more info later.
Post by: jjhunter on March 09, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 09, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
I might just buy a ticket again this year :)
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 09, 2018, 11:57:07 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 09, 2018, 12:04:13 PM
:)
I might just buy a ticket again this year :)
You're either a great guy or an agent of WDFW but either way you've motivated me to spend some $$$ on these things LOL
Post by: trophyhunt on March 09, 2018, 12:06:47 PM
Post by: shanevg on March 09, 2018, 12:43:48 PM
Post by: X-Force on March 09, 2018, 12:52:38 PM
I'll take donations for anyone that wants to buy a goat raffle ticket for me just so we can show up the "rich guy" loading the pool. :)
I figured you were the one that dropped $12,000 on goat raffle tickets.
Post by: shanevg on March 09, 2018, 12:56:38 PM
I'll take donations for anyone that wants to buy a goat raffle ticket for me just so we can show up the "rich guy" loading the pool. :)
I figured you were the one that dropped $12,000 on goat raffle tickets.
I wish I had that kind of money. :)
Post by: Stein on March 09, 2018, 01:04:56 PM
Post by: Scheindogg on March 09, 2018, 01:40:47 PM
:yeah:Honestly, I am probably going to buy one of those now just because of the rich guys. I'd love to see myself or someone on this forum grab a coveted sheep or goat tag when someone else has dumped $10,000+ into it.
Curtis
Gringo31 did it. It happens
Last year someone won the NE Big 3 on here. I wish he would have followed up with more info later.
I remember that. He *only* dropped 3k on it and won but don’t remember a follow up..
Post by: trophyhunt on March 09, 2018, 02:07:05 PM
yup, dropped us like a lead balloon!:yeah:Honestly, I am probably going to buy one of those now just because of the rich guys. I'd love to see myself or someone on this forum grab a coveted sheep or goat tag when someone else has dumped $10,000+ into it.
Curtis
Gringo31 did it. It happens
Last year someone won the NE Big 3 on here. I wish he would have followed up with more info later.
I remember that. He *only* dropped 3k on it and won but don’t remember a follow up..
Post by: Gringo31 on March 09, 2018, 09:13:30 PM
If you draw, it’s just over the top crazyville. But, for 10-20 bucks, there is enough fun dreaming because “you got a chance”.
Agree that I’d like a bunch of guys to buy a ticket or two to increase the odds of a whale not being drawn. :tup:
Post by: teanawayslayer on March 10, 2018, 06:44:38 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 10, 2018, 08:49:14 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 10, 2018, 09:07:54 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 10, 2018, 09:21:45 AM
:dunno:
Post by: idahohuntr on March 10, 2018, 09:53:28 AM
Yeah nothing like the those with ALOT of extra cash loading up the raffles super early to give themselves even better odds. Man I hate what these things have become, just another way for the RICH to cut to the front of the line. I'll spend my money elsewhere, I wish they would institute a cap on how many raffle tickets a person could buy in each category. In the end the State just wants the almighty $$$$$$ though.:yeah:
I prefer an allocation where most folks have an opportunity. Raise the special permit fee a few dollars and throw all these auction and raffle permits into the regular draw :dunno:
Post by: trophyhunt on March 10, 2018, 10:08:36 AM
One solution may be that the tickets get more expensive the more you buyHmm, I like that idea!
:dunno:
Post by: Pegasus on March 10, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
Post by: Jpmiller on March 10, 2018, 12:25:21 PM
You guys better watch your words too. One of these years I will flood the raffle and then my feelings will be hurt when I re read these threads lol
Post by: Tbar on March 10, 2018, 12:33:19 PM
Is there a way to see where the raffle and auction tag winners harvested their animals? If they go through one of the units open only to them they aren't really taking a chance away from anyone else.They have exclusive areas in many cases. They also have to manage for potential harvest in other areas. This results in a greater impact to Joe public. If you go all in, good for you! Don't hate the player just the game.
You guys better watch your words too. One of these years I will flood the raffle and then my feelings will be hurt when I re read these threads lol
Post by: elkchaser54 on March 12, 2018, 10:04:37 AM
Post by: Stein on March 12, 2018, 10:25:52 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 12, 2018, 01:46:42 PM
Can you hunt say hunt elk in the blues with a rifle in September with a raffle tag ? Or does it limit to what season is going on at that time?
Assuming you have an eastside elk raffle, it's any weapon and any GMU except a few that are closed here and there. So yes...you could hunt Dayton with a rifle in September if you wanted.
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on March 15, 2018, 02:06:14 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 15, 2018, 04:59:29 AM
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on March 15, 2018, 05:37:42 AM
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on March 17, 2018, 09:52:41 PM
Stay home and win big
Big money, Big money! Less potato chips for stay at home if no win big! :'( :chuckle:
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 19, 2018, 07:26:53 AM
Post by: LabChamp on April 07, 2018, 06:08:00 AM
One solution may be that the tickets get more expensive the more you buy
:dunno:
Now that is an awesome idea. First 10 5 bucks, next 10 they go up to 10 bucks, next 10 they go up to 15 bucks, and so forth. Wanna load the draw now big money boys lol Sure but every 10 tickets the price bumps up by 5 bucks.
Post by: teanawayslayer on April 07, 2018, 08:22:34 AM
WA lost a big contributor recently. I'm sure others will step ini believe he was already out last year. Someone else has already stepped up. :bash:
Post by: trophyhunt on April 07, 2018, 09:08:42 AM
I sent this idea to one of the permit team members, worth a shot. I think it’s a good idea.One solution may be that the tickets get more expensive the more you buy
:dunno:
Now that is an awesome idea. First 10 5 bucks, next 10 they go up to 10 bucks, next 10 they go up to 15 bucks, and so forth. Wanna load the draw now big money boys lol Sure but every 10 tickets the price bumps up by 5 bucks.
Post by: meatwhack on April 07, 2018, 10:12:46 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on April 07, 2018, 10:16:44 AM
Post by: X-Force on April 07, 2018, 10:25:15 AM
I sent this idea to one of the permit team members, worth a shot. I think it’s a good idea.One solution may be that the tickets get more expensive the more you buy
:dunno:
Now that is an awesome idea. First 10 5 bucks, next 10 they go up to 10 bucks, next 10 they go up to 15 bucks, and so forth. Wanna load the draw now big money boys lol Sure but every 10 tickets the price bumps up by 5 bucks.
This whining is total bs. Put in for a raffle with 1 ticket and you will have better odds of drawing the raffle with the “points” you buy every year to draw an oil or even a covetted deer or elk permits.
Post by: Miles on April 07, 2018, 10:30:41 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 07, 2018, 10:40:58 AM
Post by: Miles on April 07, 2018, 10:48:22 AM
The idea of staggering the ticket prices has nothing to do with making it more fair, it will just raise more money. The raffle isn’t going anywhere, I’m not trying or looking for ways to make it “fair”.
How exactly will it raise more money? Details please.
- If someone has X amount of dollars to spend on a raffle, that's what they're going to spend...
How will it not effect odds? Again, details please.
- Will it not bring the # of chances per individual closer together if each person purchases the same dollar value of tickets as they did last year (thereby decreasing odds of the person with more money in the pot when comparing to last years odds)?
Post by: trophyhunt on April 07, 2018, 10:59:56 AM
I think it will raise more money simply because it would cost more to buy tickets after a certain number. I think people would end up spending more to buy the same amount of tickets. Maybe less tickets would be sold, but I just don’t see odds changing much either way. I’m not a stats guy, I’m also not crying about fairness with the raffles, I just thought it was a good idea when someone mentioned it.The idea of staggering the ticket prices has nothing to do with making it more fair, it will just raise more money. The raffle isn’t going anywhere, I’m not trying or looking for ways to make it “fair”.
How exactly will it raise more money? Details please.
- If someone has X amount of dollars to spend on a raffle, that's what they're going to spend...
How will it not effect odds? Again, details please.
- Will it not bring the # of chances per individual closer together if each person purchases the same dollar value of tickets as they did last year (thereby decreasing odds of the person with more money in the pot when comparing to last years odds)?
Post by: LabChamp on April 07, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
I sent this idea to one of the permit team members, worth a shot. I think it’s a good idea.One solution may be that the tickets get more expensive the more you buy
:dunno:
Now that is an awesome idea. First 10 5 bucks, next 10 they go up to 10 bucks, next 10 they go up to 15 bucks, and so forth. Wanna load the draw now big money boys lol Sure but every 10 tickets the price bumps up by 5 bucks.
This whining is total bs. Put in for a raffle with 1 ticket and you will have better odds of drawing the raffle with the “points” you buy every year to draw an oil or even a covetted deer or elk permits.
Calling someomes point of view "bs" is supposed to make it all better? That's the typical "internet white knight" I know more than you do attitude.
Remember we are in this together and the more we raise, the more we all profit, period. All the guys that have unlimited funds won't care and will continue to do what they do.
If I have a chance, that's great imo. The whole system is a cash grab from the state pure and simple. I don't believe in putting a price tag on special opportunities that everyone should have a shot at. The point system is a scam, just like the raffle imo. All wildlife was here before man and their monetary values they placed on their heads. Therefore I don't believe any man, wether it be a native American, white guy, oriental, or African American is more "entitled" than the other. Same way I don't believe the amount of money you have should be a factor in being able to obtain these special privileges. Sorry but your skin color, beliefs, or money doesn't mean jack to me. And I can assume visa versa via your previous comment. That's what makes America great right? You get to stand up for what you believe in and that's ok. You have to learn how to respect others before you understand that though.