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Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: KopperBuck on March 09, 2018, 11:06:52 AM
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I don't live in a great area to try on boots, nor do I make it to those places very often. I've been hesitant to order anything online because I'm worried about the hassle of returning/exchanging to get the right fit. Beyond that, what I'm really concerned about is whether or not I can really try these out. Are you guys wearing boots for 10+ miles and then returning them? I got way too far with my Meindl's. Probably 80-100 mi on them at least.
I have to buy new boots. There's no way around it. I currently run Meindl's Denali, and they destroy my feet. I've never had foot problems in my life. But these make the balls of my feet hurt so incredibly bad that I can barely walk downhill after all day. Before I tried the Perfekts, but was having a fit issue. I tried these on, and at the store they felt great. After hunting in them for a bit, I thought maybe they needed more break in (previous were Pronghorns before they went downhill). I was just in the beginning stages of spring bear so I didn't have a choice, I had to use these. I've tried many different types of inserts - currently have Lathrops in. But still have the problem. They're a stiffer boot than I'm used to, I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. Any type of broken/rocky ground and it's going to be a long day.
Fast forward to today - I'm looking at all brands... Crispi, Kenetrek, Lowa - am I missing someone? I don't want to go through this scenario again where I hate my boot, but can't do much about it.
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I don't live in a great area to try on boots, nor do I make it to those places very often. I've been hesitant to order anything online because I'm worried about the hassle of returning/exchanging to get the right fit. Beyond that, what I'm really concerned about is whether or not I can really try these out. Are you guys wearing boots for 10+ miles and then returning them? I got way too far with my Meindl's. Probably 80-100 mi on them at least.
I have to buy new boots. There's no way around it. I currently run Meindl's Denali, and they destroy my feet. I've never had foot problems in my life. But these make the balls of my feet hurt so incredibly bad that I can barely walk downhill after all day. Before I tried the Perfekts, but was having a fit issue. I tried these on, and at the store they felt great. After hunting in them for a bit, I thought maybe they needed more break in (previous were Pronghorns before they went downhill). I was just in the beginning stages of spring bear so I didn't have a choice, I had to use these. I've tried many different types of inserts - currently have Lathrops in. But still have the problem. They're a stiffer boot than I'm used to, I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. Any type of broken/rocky ground and it's going to be a long day.
Fast forward to today - I'm looking at all brands... Crispi, Kenetrek, Lowa - am I missing someone? I don't want to go through this scenario again where I hate my boot, but can't do much about it.
Also add Schnee's to your list of brands to check.
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Might give lathrop and sons a call and talk about the custom fitting service. It isn’t cheap but you’ll never have to worry about crappy fitting boots. :twocents:
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I would suggest getting your feet measured, especially for width. I just found out my feet are "extra wide". That means 4E+. And I wonder why I've had problems with shoes and boots my whole life.
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The Schnee’s Beartooths I just picked up are the most comfortable and easiest boot to break in I’ve ever owned before. I spend a lot of time in the woods for work so I love boots that don’t take 20-30 miles to break in.
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Just remember as you get older your feet will have a tendency to get wider, those with high insteps will find it getting smaller. Also you lose the muscle in on the bottoms which is harder on your feet. :twocents:
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I don't think of it as getting older, I think of it as being broke :chuckle: in.
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Boots are highly personal, you will find lovers and haters for every brand.
Unfortunately, I don't know many places that will take boots back that have been visibly worn. There are a few retailers that will, look more toward the REI type of store as well as store brands like Cabelas.
Personally, I've had the best luck with brands not mentioned on here. Again, it's a personal thing and for me, I don't want to spend $400 on a brick for my feet, I like light, roomy and zero or near zero heel drop.
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Cabelas has a great return policy. 60 days no questions asked no matter how much you wore them.
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I am made fun of often and go barefoot as often as possible. It has helped me tremendous. Going on about 10 years now. I no *censored* completely gutted and rebuilt a 1946 rental house for three months last summer and did it barefoot. Ace hardware got use to it and I am sure still talk about me.
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My feet have very little "cushion" on the top of my feet. The vains stand higher than the rest of my foot, so a lot of boots and shoes when laced cut the circulation off, and are very uncomfortable. 40 years of kicking things (martial arts) starts to effect your feet in negative ways. It makes it hard to find boots that work with my feet. Even within the same brand the different models fit differently. I have had the most luck with Merrell boots and trail shoes, and Asolo GTXs as boots.
Creative lacing helps, but it usually takes a week or two to weed out the boots or shoes that effect my feet.
KopperBuck, you might want to get your feet checked out for orthotics. I don't mean those crap DR. Scholls you buy at all the corner drug stores, but ones fitted by a podiatrist. They can make a world of difference.
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I wonder since this is my first time with more of a mountain boot that maybe it just isn’t my gig. My old pronghorns were pretty flexible. They were great boots, but pre overseas. My hunting partner has burned through two pair in 3 years and I’ve been apart of every mile he’s been in them. Was trying to avoid that.
I’ve never sprained an ankle in my life, but if you watch me sometimes you would swear they broke. Never blister. Never have sore feet. I wear cowboy boots mostly, muck boots after that. But these last hunting boots have me fooled and gun shy. Seriously thinking about having my feet checked out. I’ve always been a little pigeon toed - probably doesn’t help with a stiffer boot?
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Why did you go with a stiffer boot?
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More or less I was trying something else other than Danner’s after seeing and hearing about the failures. Tried something claimed to be more “quality”. I hadn’t bought a pair of boots in a long time - I just figured everything had updated since my last purchase. Kind of like phones.
I also hunt areas where people claim a stiffer/mountain boot is needed or is helpful. I thought maybe I was missing out on something. I’m not sure I am.
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Duluth Trading has some boots guaranteed for a lifetime.
Wear em. Abuse em...send em back for a full refund at any time. No questions asked. Even if there are holes in them and the soles are missing
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REI all the way! Heck they'll mail ya a new pair of boots even if you have a hissy-fit and chuck the old ones off a cliff...Just ask miss yellow-blazin' Cheryl Strayed! :chuckle:
http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/2015/05/post_71.html
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REI all the way! Heck they'll mail ya a new pair of boots even if you have a hissy-fit and chuck the old ones off a cliff...Just ask miss yellow-blazin' Cheryl Strayed! :chuckle:
http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/2015/05/post_71.html
REI does have a great boot return policy, I have returned a couple different pairs through them, no questions asked.
I also saw the boots I just returned, in their Year end discount sale, with no explanation of why they were returned with a discounted price, LOL
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Blackovis has a good selection, good prices, and a decent return policy.
https://www.blackovis.com/clothing/footwear
Quality Hunting Boots
The quality of your hunting boots can mean the difference between a successful hunt and an unenjoyable experience. We carry boots from some of the best boot makers in the business including Crispi, Zamberlan, Kenetrek, Under Armour, Danner and more. With our 30-day return policy, feel free to send them back if you try them on and they don’t fit. Just make sure to keep the tags on and don’t wear them outside. Choose BlackOvis.com for quality lightweight hunting boots, gore-tex hunting boots and much more.
I went to *REI and got my feet measured and bought a cheaper pair of boots that I pretty much wear every day to work. And then I went and ordered a pair of Crispi's from Blackovis.
Another place I was told to check out last year when I was looking for boots is https://www.bakershoe.com/
They have a guy named Kyle who apparently is a "WorldWide Legend when it comes to fitting boots." They also appear to have decent prices and good return policy (https://www.bakershoe.com/page/free-ground-fedex-any-order-over-75-free-exchanges). Slightly better return policy IMO than Blackovis.
* note: REI might not be a place worth patronizing anymore though, if you read about their anti-gun positions as of late.
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I have been wearing the Salomon Quest 4D GTX's the last couple years. They are super comfortable and require little to no break-in. My first pair started leaking after 1 season so I sent them back to salomon and they gave me a brand new pair (Salomon has a 2 year warranty).
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I sent back some black ovis crispis after a month. New pair is on the way. Cabela's had a 60 day return not to mention the lifetime of the product guarantee on their branded products, even the Cabela's meindls. I'd double check that with the Bass pro take over though. They have been making a lot of changes.
Usually you can get like 70% of your money back just selling an almost new pair on the forums.
Last year I did meindls and kennetreks. Now on the crispis then I'll try schnees.
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I ended up buying Crispi Nevada Legend GTXs today. I really like the rocker. Given my earlier problems, these just might be the ticket. Not to mention they were super comfortable. By chance Alpine Archery here in La Grande carried a few. Slim pickings until their next shipment May 1, but had larger sizes luckily - took the 13s. I was impressed they come in 12.5. Without thick socks I woulda bought those. Always have a problem being in between a 12 & 13.
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If you decide on Crispi, just trace your feet on paper and give those measurements to the crispi expert at Black Ovis. He got me the perfect size. They allow you to send them back if not worn down. Mine took almost 0 break in.
Swap out footbeds.
By the time my kenetreck were finaly broken in, I was 60 miles of use into then.