Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Upland Birds => Topic started by: shorthair15 on March 11, 2018, 06:55:14 PM
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Well I’m looking for a ou shotgun. Unfortunately don’t know squat about them I once shot a browning citori once. I saw a cz woodchuck g2 in 12 gauge I found a place that had 3 of them. Just don’t know anything about them. I was going to use it for chukars, quail and pheasant. May just get a stoeger m3000. Not even sure if u can get a good one for 700.00 most of the ones I see are 1500.00.
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Occasionally you'll find a used Ruger Red Label for sale at that price point.
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:yeah:
The Red Labels are nice and as mentioned above can be found used in that price range.
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I have a 90% RRL in 12ga 26" fixed IC/Mod with original box you can have for $750.
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I have a CZ Redhead 20ga that I really like I think it was about $800 new.
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I have a 20 gauge Beretta golden snipe made in 1968. Shoulders and shoots like a dream for me. You'll find something yhat fits you that is nice, for that budget.
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You can’t get a good new O/U for that price. However, if you search really hard, you should be able to find a Miroku for that price, or maybe $100-$200 more. Believe me, that extra $100-$200 will be money WELL spent. Most people have no idea what a Miroku is, but essentially, it’s a Browning. And when I say essentially, if you look on the side of many Brownings you will see Miroku on the side. Miroku is a Japanese firm that makes many of the Browning O/U’s. They are phenomenal guns but not well known in the US because Miroku agreed not to import Miroku branded guns into the US when they started making Brownings. With that said, across the pond Mirokus are well regarded as some of the best functioning guns Money can buy. They are easily on par with any Browning or Beretta, and many people say they are better. (Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge). IMO, I wouldn’t waste money on a CZ or Stoeger, guns with very little resale value, when you can get a much better gun for about the same price, that will slowly go up in value.
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I have a Browning Citori that I would sell for $700. 28" barrels with Invector choke tubes. i can send pics if interested.
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Jet Jockey is 110% correct on everything stated. M_59's Citiori is priced right as well
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In friendly disagreement, I am very pleased with my Stevens Model 555 in 28 Ga.; nice wood and on a true 28 Ga. frame at a nice price.
The CZ Teal O/U gets good reviews as well and Sportsman's Warehouse had them on sale a short time ago.
And yes...M_59's Citori is the one to buy; I own a Citori Satin Hunter that I have hunted waterfowl with for years.
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Valmet are pretty high quality, sell a lot of times in your price range...lock up similarly to a 3200.
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In friendly disagreement, I am very pleased with my Stevens Model 555 in 28 Ga.; nice wood and on a true 28 Ga. frame at a nice price.
The CZ Teal O/U gets good reviews as well and Sportsman's Warehouse had them on sale a short time ago.
And yes...M_59's Citori is the one to buy; I own a Citori Satin Hunter that I have hunted waterfowl with for years.
I’m nore than pleased with my Griffin and Howe Arrieta, but the second I shouldered a Purdey, I could see that the two guns werent in the same league. CZ’s and Stevens are Turkish guns, and 99% of Turkish guns have a long way to go before they match the quality of a B gun or Miroku. Not to say they won’t get there, but as of now, they aren’t. Spanish guns were the same way a long time ago as well, but the Spaniards figured it out and have since made phenomenal guns, but at nowhere near the price point of a Turkish gun. One good thing I’ll say about Turkish guns is typically, the wood quality is WAY above the rest of the gun. You can’t say the same about lower grade Berettas.
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Here are a couple of pics of the Citori. It is easier to post here than to try and send them to everyone that wants to see it.
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Point and shoot, if possible, everyone you find. You will find exactly what you want with patience. 28 gauge for that use would be a great choice, heck, with time you can have one of each, or more. Early Miroku, SKB, and Valmet are worth a look at that price. Sabattis might fit. Take your time. It is a fun ride.
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THats a great fun for the price. Is it a Miroku built Browning?
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Well I’m looking for a ou shotgun. Unfortunately don’t know squat about them I once shot a browning citori once. I saw a cz woodchuck g2 in 12 gauge I found a place that had 3 of them. Just don’t know anything about them. I was going to use it for chukars, quail and pheasant. May just get a stoeger m3000. Not even sure if u can get a good one for 700.00 most of the ones I see are 1500.00.
I shoot my stoeger condor 20g quite a bit and haven't had any issues with it. I'm sure it's a cheaply made piece of junk to some but it has never failed me, it kills birds and I bought it for well under 700.
I bought it right after I passed up a Red Label that was twice the price but much prettier.
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There is a difference between a shotgun that is used only for hunting, and one that needs to handle the demands of thousands of rounds of trap and skeet, as well as hunting. I might shoot around 300 shells a year. There are many, many options that will handle that type of use.
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Citoris are miroku, some early Charles daly also. SKB was marketed by Ithaca for some time. Sabatti might be a Remington or Charles daly. The new SKB is Turkish and pricey, look for the Japan made ones. Good searching and hunting
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I have a solid japanese SKB O/U that I bought because the Ruger plant for red labels was striking. 1995ish? That thing has been a tank, and I have seen some Red Labels having QC issues over the same time frame. So, another vote for looking at SKB, and just go over the gun carefully for fit/finish, damage, and action.
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If you dont mind used gun i like looking on gun broker. I have picked several great shotguns under $700. Marlin model 90 is a clasic OU that I would take chukar hunting anyday.
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CZ teal foes on sale for $549 a lot. Full set of chokes and hard case. Usually $799
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I got one of these brand new in 20ga
https://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/Stevens555
on sale at cabelas right at 700 out the door
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Agree completely on the Miroku comments. I have a 1960's Charles Daly Miroku 28 gauge that I found in mint condition back in the 90's for a bargain price. It was a gun I lusted after as an airman stationed at Charleston AFB in South Carolina during the 60's. At $375 back then when new, just too expensive on an airman's salary especially with a wife and son. However as one ages and has more disposal income, dreams of youth become reality.
Look at those older Daly Miroku's. Bargain prices in 12 and 20 gauges. Back in the day many considered them every bit as good as the Browning Superimposed O/U's.
Good luck in your search. :tup:
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I have a Stoeger Condor that i really like. Used it hard for 3 seasons now and hasn't had one issue. Its not fancy nor does it have the "Name Brand" but it gets the job done. Also, it keeps me from carrying a $2000 dollar gun in the chukar hills. :tup:
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Yeah I have a Longfowler and like it.
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I have a nice Mossberg silver reserve for $550.00
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Well I’m looking for a ou shotgun. Unfortunately don’t know squat about them I once shot a browning citori once. I saw a cz woodchuck g2 in 12 gauge I found a place that had 3 of them. Just don’t know anything about them. I was going to use it for chukars, quail and pheasant. May just get a stoeger m3000. Not even sure if u can get a good one for 700.00 most of the ones I see are 1500.00.
CZ has a growing following and most people who own them like them.
I have a CZ Woodcock G2 and it has been a great gun for the money and it came with a multi year warranty. .
Tristar puts out some very affordable doubles as well and I know several guys who have used them without fail. They also come with a 5 year warranty.
I also have a Stoeger Condor Supreme that I bought a little over 10 years ago. Never a failure. But if I had to do it again and wanted a sub $1000 O/U I would buy CZ.
These guns are made for hunting and some light duty at the range. If you intend to go pound out thousands upon thousands of rounds shooting clays then spend some more money and buy a more expensive gun. But for the budget conscious hunter who wants a double I don’t think you can go wrong with CZ. Particularly the newer ones since their parts are largely CNC’d now.
Or to frame it another way. You can spend $1500-$2000 on a double or you can spend $700ish on a double with a warranty and if you get 10 years out of it is that really a failure?