Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 12:20:41 PM
Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke on Thursday used a Japanese greeting in response to a congresswoman’s question about preserving the history of Japanese-American internment during World War II, drawing rebukes from lawmakers who said his remark was offensive.
Rep. Colleen Hanabusa, D-Hawaii, a fourth-generation American of Japanese ancestry, asked Zinke in a hearing whether he would continue a National Park Service grant program that funds research and preserves confinement sites where the government incarcerated as many as 120,000 people of Japanese descent. She said both of her grandfathers were internees.
‘‘Are you committed to continue the grant programs that are identified, I believe, as the Japanese American Confinement Sites grants program, which were funded in 2017? Will we see them funded again in 2018?’’ Hanabusa asked.
‘‘Oh, konnichiwa,’’ Zinke replied, using a Japanese greeting typically spoken in the afternoon.
After an awkward pause, Hanabusa corrected him.
‘‘I think it’s still ‘ohayo gozaimasu,’ but that’s OK,’’ she said, using the phrase for ‘‘good morning.’’ Then she moved on.
Several of Hanabusa’s colleagues voiced outrage about the exchange after it circulated on social media later in the day, saying Zinke had shown a profound insensitivity toward Asian-Americans.
‘‘Rather than greet her like he would any other Member of Congress, he responded to her as if she did not speak any English,’’ Rep. Judy Chu, D-Calif., said in a statement. ‘‘Whether intentional or not, his comments invoke the offensive stereotype that Asian Americans are perpetual foreigners regardless of how long their families have lived in the United States.’’
Others said it was especially inappropriate coming during a conversation about Japanese internment, under which the government forced innocent citizens into overcrowded and often unsanitary camps, separating families and seizing private property in the process.
Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii, who was born in Japan, wrote on Twitter:
An Interior Department spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment Friday morning.
Hanabusa said in Thursday’s hearing that one of her grandfathers was born in Hawaii when it was still a territory and was held in an internment camp in there during the Second World War. She didn’t find out about his incarceration until he was in his 80s, she said, because Japanese Americans ‘‘just did not speak about it.’’
‘‘And that’s been the problem that many face,’’ she told Zinke.
President Trump’s proposed 2019 budget doesn’t seek funding — about $2 million in previous years — for the Japanese American Confinement Sites program, the goal of which is to study and preserve internment camps for the benefit of future generations.
Grants issued through the program have ‘‘kept this history alive,’’ Hanabusa said. ‘‘I believe that it is essential that we as a nation recognize our darkest moments so that we don’t have them repeat again.’’
Zinke said funding for the program ‘‘probably got caught up’’ as the Interior Department was considering other budget items such as national park operations.
‘‘I think it was an oversight in the budget,’’ he said. ‘‘I understand the importance of it to American history.’’
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/03/16/konnichiwa-ryan-zinke-tells-japanese-american-lawmaker-discussing-internment-her-grandfathers/1TcWNmVofL9K9vKzsQMn5N/story.html
Post by: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 12:22:21 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:36:45 PM
Partisan Politics is all that is....
I imagine the Green Decoy sports groups are going wild, they see Obama's land grab legacy being unraveled. :twocents:
Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
I imagine the Green Decoy sports groups are going wild, they see Obama's land grab legacy being unraveled. :twocents:His land grab legacy? You mean the one where one Clinton monument and one Obama monument have been turned into now 5 monuments by Trump? Hunting was allowed before and after monument status, the only thing that stopped was oil/mineral excavation in areas where it hadn't already began before they were monuments.
Love it when people say actions are "land grabs" when the land is already managed by the feds in the first place. Did the feds grab land from the feds? :dunno:
Post by: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 12:46:21 PM
Come on now Tex, quick telling facts.I imagine the Green Decoy sports groups are going wild, they see Obama's land grab legacy being unraveled. :twocents:His land grab legacy? You mean the one where one Clinton monument and one Obama monument have been turned into now 5 monuments by Trump? Hunting was allowed before and after monument status, the only thing that stopped was oil/mineral excavation in areas where it hadn't already began before they were monuments.
Love it when people say actions are "land grabs" when the land is already managed by the feds in the first place. Did the feds grab land from the feds? :dunno:
We all know Obama took millions of poor people land and created parks/monuments and everything else with it (even though only Congress could do that ;) )
:tinfoil:
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:52:30 PM
I spend a lot of time in Utah, many of the people there called it a land grab, just like what it was! There certainly are people who live in other states readily willing to tell Utah what is best for them. :twocents:
Post by: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 12:54:10 PM
Zinke wants a new 130,000 acre monument in Montana. Is that going to be a "land grab"?
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/dec/06/zinke-defends-monument-reductions-supports-badger-/
Post by: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 12:55:38 PM
I spend a lot of time in Utah, many of the people there called it a land grab, just like what it was! There certainly are people who live in other states readily willing to tell Utah what is best for them. :twocents:And who exactly did the feds take the land from? Oh that's right the feds.
No state/private land was overnight turned into fed land. The president can only declare monument status on current fed land, or land that will be donated (ie I'll give you 5k acres if you make it a monument). Congress on the other hand can make deals to acquire state/private lands to turn it into a monument.
Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 12:56:18 PM
Bearpaw:According to the "Utah definition"... yes
Zinke wants a new 130,000 acre monument in Montana. Is that going to be a "land grab"?
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/dec/06/zinke-defends-monument-reductions-supports-badger-/
Post by: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 01:24:31 PM
I would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:24:57 PM
I don't know much about the Badger/Two Bears area? Reading info from the story at your link raised a question in my mind regarding what status the land is in currently. Another important poi nt is that Zinke is proposing 112,000 acres, that's a lot different than millions of acres that Obama tied up in Utah. One of my guides lives in MT, I can ask him how local people view the issue. In my opinion that should be one of the determining factors, what do the local people want and what is the land currently used for?
Something that should be pointed out, the Utah monuments were huge, millions of acres, far bigger than they needed to be, that's a land grab! All Zinke and Trump are doing is paring those monuments down to a more reasonable size. They didn't eliminate them! Most people I know in Utah are extremely happy with Trump!
I think you are mixing apples and oranges with your arguments against Zinke! It's appears you will flame him whether he reduces the size of a monument or creates a monument, there is a word for that but I don't think I need to say it! :dunno:
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
I would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!
Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please! :chuckle:
Post by: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
Most people I know in Utah are extremely happy with Trump!Well I'd hope so, it's a Republican state. That's like saying the majority of the populace in California are anti-Trump. Duh
Post by: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 01:35:29 PM
I would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!
Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please! :chuckle:
There is a difference between maliciously racist and racially insensitive. The rep from HI was not Japanese. She is a 4th generation American. There is no conceivable reason to greet her that way. He might as well have asked her if she needed chopsticks when her Caesar salad showed up at lunch.
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:36:43 PM
Most people I know in Utah are extremely happy with Trump!Well I'd hope so, it's a Republican state. That's like saying the majority of the populace in California are anti-Trump. Duh
:yeah: I agree with you completely on that. Which is why people in CA wanted the monuments to be huge and people in Uath wanted them reduced! ;)
Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 01:39:53 PM
It's obvious you guys are going to criticize Zinke no matter if he reduces or creates monuments, that tells me this is little more than political badgering regarding Zinke! You criticize the guy no matter what he wants to do! :dunno:Actually I've supported some of his decisions, but I have no problem calling him out at time. I'm not someone who sees that all Republicans can do no evil and Dems can only do evil, they can both do evil.
My big thing is I don't see him as a "god" that he likes to portray himself as, and as some on here think he is. That for some reason he is here to protect everyone's hunting and fishing rights everywhere and so on. In reality, he hasn't done much. There isn't a single thing WA hunters can say he's done to improve our hunting/fishing, and in reality, he cant do much. He has no authority over states issues, he cant say what happens with the Forest Service.
His supporters like to say he got rid of the Obama lead "ban" for refuges, when in reality it wasn't a ban at all as it was a policy statement that refuges should move towards being lead free, shocking thing is most refuges were lead free before Obama took office, and this reg is still in place.
In WA he's basically limited to National Parks and Wildlife Refuge issues. He oversees BLM but BLM is such a minor player in WA as they have less than 500,000 acres.
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:41:48 PM
I would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!
Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please! :chuckle:
There is a difference between maliciously racist and racially insensitive. The rep from HI was not Japanese. She is a 4th generation American. There is no conceivable reason to greet her that way. He might as well have asked her if she needed chopsticks when her Caesar salad showed up at lunch.
:chuckle: That was a good one. I really don't understand his comment either, but again, why would he intentionally be racist or intentionally show disrespect in congress? Has anyone asked him why he said that?
Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 01:42:41 PM
"An Interior Department spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment Friday morning.":chuckle: That was a good one. I really don't understand his comment either, but again, why would he intentionally be racist or intentionally show disrespect in congress? Has anyone asked him why he said that?I would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!
Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please! :chuckle:
There is a difference between maliciously racist and racially insensitive. The rep from HI was not Japanese. She is a 4th generation American. There is no conceivable reason to greet her that way. He might as well have asked her if she needed chopsticks when her Caesar salad showed up at lunch.
Post by: KFhunter on March 16, 2018, 01:44:34 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
It's obvious you guys are going to criticize Zinke no matter if he reduces or creates monuments, that tells me this is little more than political badgering regarding Zinke! You criticize the guy no matter what he wants to do! :dunno:Actually I've supported some of his decisions, but I have no problem calling him out at time. I'm not someone who sees that all Republicans can do no evil and Dems can only do evil, they can both do evil.
My big thing is I don't see him as a "god" that he likes to portray himself as, and as some on here think he is. That for some reason he is here to protect everyone's hunting and fishing rights everywhere and so on. In reality, he hasn't done much. There isn't a single thing WA hunters can say he's done to improve our hunting/fishing, and in reality, he cant do much. He has no authority over states issues, he cant say what happens with the Forest Service.
His supporters like to say he got rid of the Obama lead "ban" for refuges, when in reality it wasn't a ban at all as it was a policy statement that refuges should move towards being lead free, shocking thing is most refuges were lead free before Obama took office, and this reg is still in place.
In WA he's basically limited to National Parks and Wildlife Refuge issues. He oversees BLM but BLM is such a minor player in WA as they have less than 500,000 acres.
By your comments I'm not sure if you think I have a statue of him in my house or not! :chuckle:
Seriously I doubt Washington is high on Zinke or Trump's list, this state has done nothing but try to trash the Trump administration, am I wrong?
I'll be happy if Zinke and Trump make improvements in other states and do whatever they can to erase Obama's missteps. Trump has only done one thing that I seriously disagreed with, he talked about raising the age of gun purchasing to 21. I did what I figured was the most effective action, I sent twitter messages and facebook messages directly to Trump's accounts and sent a letter to his fundraising organization that I would not donate again if Trump violated the 2nd Amendment. I'm sure my messages alone made no difference, I'm also sure others did the same thing, it was only a few days and Trump changed his stance on weapons.
Probably should thank the NRA!
So, I'm very happy with Trump's actions thus far. When he missteps I will do my part to join others in letting him know, I'll do the same with Zinke and hope it helps!
Post by: KFhunter on March 16, 2018, 02:10:00 PM
A big fat nothing burger.
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 02:42:55 PM
Well that statue sure looks like him ;)It's obvious you guys are going to criticize Zinke no matter if he reduces or creates monuments, that tells me this is little more than political badgering regarding Zinke! You criticize the guy no matter what he wants to do! :dunno:Actually I've supported some of his decisions, but I have no problem calling him out at time. I'm not someone who sees that all Republicans can do no evil and Dems can only do evil, they can both do evil.
My big thing is I don't see him as a "god" that he likes to portray himself as, and as some on here think he is. That for some reason he is here to protect everyone's hunting and fishing rights everywhere and so on. In reality, he hasn't done much. There isn't a single thing WA hunters can say he's done to improve our hunting/fishing, and in reality, he cant do much. He has no authority over states issues, he cant say what happens with the Forest Service.
His supporters like to say he got rid of the Obama lead "ban" for refuges, when in reality it wasn't a ban at all as it was a policy statement that refuges should move towards being lead free, shocking thing is most refuges were lead free before Obama took office, and this reg is still in place.
In WA he's basically limited to National Parks and Wildlife Refuge issues. He oversees BLM but BLM is such a minor player in WA as they have less than 500,000 acres.
By your comments I'm not sure if you think I have a statue of him in my house or not! :chuckle:
Seriously I doubt Washington is high on Zinke or Trump's list, this state has done nothing but try to trash the Trump administration, am I wrong?
I'll be happy if Zinke and Trump make improvements in other states and do whatever they can to erase Obama's missteps. Trump has only done one thing that I seriously disagreed with, he talked about raising the age of gun purchasing to 21. I did what I figured was the most effective action, I sent twitter messages and facebook messages directly to Trump's accounts and sent a letter to his fundraising organization that I would not donate again if Trump violated the 2nd Amendment. I'm sure my messages alone made no difference, I'm also sure others did the same thing, it was only a few days and Trump changed his stance on weapons.
Probably should thank the NRA!
So, I'm very happy with Trump's actions thus far. When he missteps I will do my part to join others in letting him know, I'll do the same with Zinke and hope it helps!
I have no problem giving credit when credits due. But when he takes credit for something he didn't do it's time to blast him for it. Point in example: About two months ago he announced that about 10 refuges will have expanded hunting/fishing opportunities in 2018. He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year) and that these 10 refuges actually began the process to open to these new opportunities before Trump was even elected. Quite simply, Zinke just happened SOI at the time the review came thru and he signed the approval. Yet for some reason his press release/statement made it sounds like it was something he spearheaded :dunno:
Post by: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 02:50:01 PM
He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!
Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 04:08:50 PM
He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!
Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
It's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years. :tup:
Post by: fish vacuum on March 16, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I spend a lot of time in Utah, many of the people there called it a land grab
People in Utah believe a lot of illogical stuff.
Post by: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 04:16:36 PM
He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!
Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
It's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years. :tup:
He got bin Laden.
Post by: Lucky1 on March 16, 2018, 04:20:22 PM
Correction. The navy seals got bin laden.He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!
Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
It's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years. :tup:
He got bin Laden.
Post by: Alchase on March 16, 2018, 04:21:55 PM
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Rep. Colleen Hanabusa, D-Hawaii, a fourth-generation American of Japanese ancestry, asked Zinke in a hearing whether he would continue a National Park Service grant program that funds research and preserves confinement sites where the government incarcerated as many as 120,000 people of Japanese descent. She said both of her grandfathers were internees.
He said "konnichiwa" a very common greeting meaning "hello" in English.
He was being courteous to her ancestry, something that most Japanese would appreciate.
What a crop of political dem crap.
Post by: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 04:22:40 PM
He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!
Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
It's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years. :tup:
He got bin Laden.
True, it was during his admin although it's quite arguable another president may have gotten Bin Laden much quicker? :dunno:
Post by: davk on March 16, 2018, 06:07:21 PM
His land grab legacy? You mean the one where one Clinton monument and one Obama monument have been turned into now 5 monuments by Trump? Hunting was allowed before and after monument status, the only thing that stopped was oil/mineral excavation in areas where it hadn't already began before they were monuments.And BHA was saying Trump was stealing our land :chuckle:
Love it when people say actions are "land grabs" when the land is already managed by the feds in the first place. Did the feds grab land from the feds? :dunno:
More leftist nonsense.
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on March 17, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
Post by: jackmaster on March 17, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on March 18, 2018, 08:22:49 AM
The Parks Department has received ZERO direction from Zinke since his appointment.
Meetings that have been scheduled and require his attendance have been blown off so he can go ride his horse.
The guy's a joke, just like his boss.
Also, I have a question for Bearpaw, did the Monument status per Clinton/Obama for the lands in Utah affect your guiding operation?
I wonder if there is a restriction on professional guiding within theses areas which would ban you capitalizing on this area.
It may be that the Government grants an exclusive franchise or similar contract to limited the impact on the area.
This is the case in most Parks and may be the reason certain user groups oppose this status.
With your boys Zinke/Trump changing the status, maybe you can guide and make a few bucks (Which seems reasonable).
On the other hand, if an individual hoping for solitude and along comes some outfitter with a 30 horse string to set up camp nest to you, not so fun.
This is not intended as an attack on Bearpaw or the guiding profession, I went with an outfitter in Montana last November and had a good time.
It's just that often times there are losers and winners in legislation, and each side feels strongly about the effects.
As for Mr. Zinkes' Japanese, he should maybe take lessons and speak appropriately, I wouldn't consider addressing an important political and/or social guest in a language that is 3 generations removed from that individual. The guy's and idiot and should stick to what he knows, which is certainly not Japanese. Mr. Zinke, just do the job that you were hired to do unless that job is to ruin this Country with your ignorance, which could be the case looking at the staff that Trump has hired to go through his revolving doors.
I hope that we all get what we want, but that's highly unlikely.
Anybody have a 7mm Mauser for sale?
Thanks for reading,
Rob.
Post by: bearpaw on March 19, 2018, 07:56:58 AM
Zinke has very little to do wit the State of Washington, and the little that requires his attention doesn't get done.
The Parks Department has received ZERO direction from Zinke since his appointment.
Meetings that have been scheduled and require his attendance have been blown off so he can go ride his horse.
The guy's a joke, just like his boss.
Also, I have a question for Bearpaw, did the Monument status per Clinton/Obama for the lands in Utah affect your guiding operation?
I wonder if there is a restriction on professional guiding within theses areas which would ban you capitalizing on this area.
It may be that the Government grants an exclusive franchise or similar contract to limited the impact on the area.
This is the case in most Parks and may be the reason certain user groups oppose this status.
With your boys Zinke/Trump changing the status, maybe you can guide and make a few bucks (Which seems reasonable).
On the other hand, if an individual hoping for solitude and along comes some outfitter with a 30 horse string to set up camp nest to you, not so fun.
This is not intended as an attack on Bearpaw or the guiding profession, I went with an outfitter in Montana last November and had a good time.
It's just that often times there are losers and winners in legislation, and each side feels strongly about the effects.
As for Mr. Zinkes' Japanese, he should maybe take lessons and speak appropriately, I wouldn't consider addressing an important political and/or social guest in a language that is 3 generations removed from that individual. The guy's and idiot and should stick to what he knows, which is certainly not Japanese. Mr. Zinke, just do the job that you were hired to do unless that job is to ruin this Country with your ignorance, which could be the case looking at the staff that Trump has hired to go through his revolving doors.
I hope that we all get what we want, but that's highly unlikely.
Anybody have a 7mm Mauser for sale?
Thanks for reading,
Rob.
WOW!
I have no personal gain or loss, I don't outfit that area at all and no plans to start. Instead, my interest is that I know quite a few people who actually live in Utah as I stated before and they are happy Trump has reduced those monuments to a more reasonable size. As soon as Obama took office he rescinded oil and gas leases all over Utah and he created huge monuments, that all impacts Utah's economy. It's not that I'm totally opposed to parks or monuments either, we need them, but millions of acres is ridiculous! I'm sick and tired of the restrictions that have been put on Americans and business by liberals/globalists who want to choke the economic vitality out of this country and reduce America to a third world country so it can be controlled by globalists! The Trump administration is a breath of fresh air, that is why the stock market and economy are surging, just as I said would happen when Trump was running for office! Trump is unchaining American business and unemployment is getting lower and lower and wages are finally increasing instead of decreasing!
You accuse me of personally directly benefiting as if that's the only reason for my concern and you can't seem to imagine why I simply want to support others! I also noted your thoughts on outfitters except for when you want to go hunting with them! WOW!
If we support each other America will be great again. America is finally a net producer of energy, what that means is that we are no longer held hostage by OPEC, we are no longer dependent on them and no longer lining their pockets with a steady stream of USD out of this country. In order to be a wealthy country we must manufacture and produce more, like we used to do a few decades ago, we must eliminate the trade deficit and reduce the flow of money continually leaving this country. Trump is reversing the globalist/liberal imbalance that has been created to suck the wealth from America and take away it's economic strength.
People really need to ween them self off the liberal kool-aid put out by the MSM which is owned and controlled by globalists who don't like what Trump is doing. The MSM spins everything to be anti-Trump no matter what he does, while they continue to give D's like Hillary who broke the law many times a free pass. MSM seriously impacts some peoples judgement. No personal attack meant, I'm just offering a little different view than what the MSM continually manipulates Americans with to impact their thought patterns.
Best Regards,
Dale
Post by: timberfaller on March 19, 2018, 08:17:08 AM
Post by: wolfbait on March 19, 2018, 08:28:09 AM
You liberals are seriously the BIGGEST SISSIES IN THE WORLD !! The stuff that offends your sensitive sensibilities is insane!! It seriously blows my mind what a bunch of babies you are!! Is it hard to feel like a man at times??
You shouldn't be surprised Jack, look at What the libs supported as a presidential candidate! The libs will leap out of their skins at any chance to nock the anti globalism Trump admin, while ignoring the stench of killery and the corrupt DNC. This last little stitch is the perfect example.
If we support each other America will be great again. America is finally a net producer of energy, what that means is that we are no longer held hostage by OPEC, we are no longer dependent on them and no longer lining their pockets with a steady stream of USD out of this country. In order to be a wealthy country we must manufacture and produce more, like we used to do a few decades ago, we must eliminate the trade deficit and reduce the flow of money continually leaving this country. Trump is reversing the globalist/liberal imbalance that has been created to suck the wealth from America and take away it's economic strength.
People really need to ween them self off the liberal kool-aid put out by the MSM which is owned and controlled by globalists who don't like what Trump is doing. The MSM spins everything to be anti-Trump no matter what he does, while they continue to give D's like Hillary who broke the law many times a free pass. MSM seriously impacts some peoples judgement. No personal attack meant, I'm just offering a little different view than what the MSM continually manipulates Americans with to impact their thought patterns.
Best Regards,
Dale
:yeah: :tup:
Post by: jackmaster on March 19, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
very well said :tup:You liberals are seriously the BIGGEST SISSIES IN THE WORLD !! The stuff that offends your sensitive sensibilities is insane!! It seriously blows my mind what a bunch of babies you are!! Is it hard to feel like a man at times??
You shouldn't be surprised Jack, look at What the libs supported as a presidential candidate! The libs will leap out of their skins at any chance to nock the anti globalism Trump admin, while ignoring the stench of killery and the corrupt DNC. This last little stitch is the perfect example.
If we support each other America will be great again. America is finally a net producer of energy, what that means is that we are no longer held hostage by OPEC, we are no longer dependent on them and no longer lining their pockets with a steady stream of USD out of this country. In order to be a wealthy country we must manufacture and produce more, like we used to do a few decades ago, we must eliminate the trade deficit and reduce the flow of money continually leaving this country. Trump is reversing the globalist/liberal imbalance that has been created to suck the wealth from America and take away it's economic strength.
People really need to ween them self off the liberal kool-aid put out by the MSM which is owned and controlled by globalists who don't like what Trump is doing. The MSM spins everything to be anti-Trump no matter what he does, while they continue to give D's like Hillary who broke the law many times a free pass. MSM seriously impacts some peoples judgement. No personal attack meant, I'm just offering a little different view than what the MSM continually manipulates Americans with to impact their thought patterns.
Best Regards,
Dale
:yeah: :tup:
Post by: jackmaster on March 19, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
man maggy you come up with some real wingdingers, go hurry your head in the sand , Obama gave the launch order cause he was commander in chief, but even his idiotic self almost muffed it!! Obama did NOTHING but leave Americans to DIE... remember that !! He had a chance to be a hero but he turned out to ONLY be an AMERICAN KILLING ZERO!!! Cheers to your messiah !!!He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!
Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
It's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years. :tup:
He got bin Laden.