Post by: HaydenHunter on March 17, 2018, 06:33:11 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d2b009466bc_story.html?utm_term=.e196da5ea516 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d2b009466bc_story.html?utm_term=.e196da5ea516)
Post by: Bullkllr on March 17, 2018, 07:16:35 AM
Post by: TVHunts on March 17, 2018, 07:19:01 AM
Too bad WDFW isn’t as smart IF&G
Post by: TVHunts on March 17, 2018, 07:19:55 AM
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/mar/14/10-wolves-killed-in-northern-idaho-to-boost-elk-nu/
Post by: wolfbait on March 17, 2018, 02:40:22 PM
“We’ve made an obligation to try to manage this elk herd at levels at maybe not peak levels, but at least bring it back to levels that we’ve seen in the past that were adequate for hunting,” said Jim Hayden, a biologist with Fish and Game."
How long will it be before WDF&wolves manage predators to promote hunting?
Never?
Post by: bearpaw on March 19, 2018, 09:52:40 AM
Post by: bigmacc on March 19, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
The Lolo elk population is at 13%, only about 2,000 elk left, they figure they have 65-100 wolves in there, they need to kill another 55-90 wolves to give the elk a chance to recover.
A real shame what has happened to the Lolo elk herd, I agree that a whole lot more wolves need to be taken out to save that herd. More and more of our historical game herds are being decimated by wolves and other predators, like I said before "something isn't quite right", the Methow mule deer herd will be next, hovered around 30k to 35k for decades and since wolves and the predator explosion in the valley they claim its about half that now, and continues its tailspin. I would bet that myself and other folks that know that herd would say its a whole lot less than what WDFW claim, a WHOLE lot less. Its a good thing Idaho is at least taking wolves out to benefit an elk herd even though a lot more need to go, I highly doubt we would ever see Washington take out predators to help our game herds, I truly hope Im wrong.
Post by: wolfbait on March 19, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
The Lolo elk population is at 13%, only about 2,000 elk left, they figure they have 65-100 wolves in there, they need to kill another 55-90 wolves to give the elk a chance to recover.
A real shame what has happened to the Lolo elk herd, I agree that a whole lot more wolves need to be taken out to save that herd. More and more of our historical game herds are being decimated by wolves and other predators, like I said before "something isn't quite right", the Methow mule deer herd will be next, hovered around 30k to 35k for decades and since wolves and the predator explosion in the valley they claim its about half that now, and continues its tailspin. I would bet that myself and other folks that know that herd would say its a whole lot less than what WDFW claim, a WHOLE lot less. Its a good thing Idaho is at least taking wolves out to benefit an elk herd even though a lot more need to go, I highly doubt we would ever see Washington take out predators to help our game herds, I truly hope Im wrong.
At least IDFG have liberal hunting of cougars and bears. WA game herds are getting slammed from all sides while WDF&wolves refuse to acknowledge the impact of excessive predation.
Post by: bigmacc on March 19, 2018, 01:01:36 PM
The Lolo elk population is at 13%, only about 2,000 elk left, they figure they have 65-100 wolves in there, they need to kill another 55-90 wolves to give the elk a chance to recover.
A real shame what has happened to the Lolo elk herd, I agree that a whole lot more wolves need to be taken out to save that herd. More and more of our historical game herds are being decimated by wolves and other predators, like I said before "something isn't quite right", the Methow mule deer herd will be next, hovered around 30k to 35k for decades and since wolves and the predator explosion in the valley they claim its about half that now, and continues its tailspin. I would bet that myself and other folks that know that herd would say its a whole lot less than what WDFW claim, a WHOLE lot less. Its a good thing Idaho is at least taking wolves out to benefit an elk herd even though a lot more need to go, I highly doubt we would ever see Washington take out predators to help our game herds, I truly hope Im wrong.
At least IDFG have liberal hunting of cougars and bears. WA game herds are getting slammed from all sides while WDF&wolves refuse to acknowledge the impact of excessive predation.
Yep, I agree, IDFG is at least making an effort to controll predators and unfortunately you are right about this state even acknowledging that predators old and new are decimating our herds, it will be sad if in a few years we are talking about(AT ONE TIME) the states largest mule deer herd only having a few thousand head left in it and at the rate the Methow herd has declined in the last 15 years the time of only having a few thousand left like the Lolo elk herd is only a handful of years away I,m afraid..... :twocents:
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 19, 2018, 01:53:36 PM
Post by: bigmacc on March 19, 2018, 02:58:16 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/10-wolves-killed-in-northern-idaho-to-boost-elk-numbers/2018/03/14/14959304-27c6-11e8-a227-fd2b009466bc_story.html?utm_term=.5fe194d1d63f
:tup:....good for Idaho Fish and Game.