Post by: wooltie on March 21, 2018, 11:38:30 AM
Post by: h20hunter on March 21, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
Post by: wooltie on March 21, 2018, 11:49:49 AM
180g Accubond
2,726 ftps
I've have shot factory ammunition where the primers looks just like this -- slight little crater edge, flat primer, but still some curse near the edge.
Post by: Timberstalker on March 21, 2018, 12:08:11 PM
Just kidding. It doesn't look bad.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 21, 2018, 12:10:36 PM
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2018, 12:10:51 PM
I don't think your at max,or at 2726 ftps ,I use this for a lot of reloading cause I refuse to buy reloading manuals.It didn't have accubonds as bullet option ,but had 180 sp,anyway I will hit you with a pic and link to website for future .
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com
Post by: jasnt on March 21, 2018, 12:11:52 PM
Post by: Curly on March 21, 2018, 12:13:58 PM
24" barrel? I'd say you are approaching max. Probably can't go much if any more powder.
BTW - I ran that load thru Quickload and it came up with 2,748 fps (from 24" barrel) at a pressure of 59,380 psi.
Without knowing the exact H20 capacity of your case and OAL, it is more of a guess, but I thru in the default H20 capacity and standard OAL of 3.34"
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2018, 12:19:45 PM
Primer looks good. No flattening.I do agree with curly
24" barrel? I'd say you are approaching max. Probably can't go much if any more powder.
Post by: wooltie on March 21, 2018, 12:20:01 PM
1:10 twist, 24" benchmark, shooting a model 70.
WLR primers
.020" from the lands
The COAL is longer than standard because the ABs are like spears...longer bullets, but still fit in my mag.
Nosler claims 56.5g is max load with IMR4350 (using Nosler cases); I saw IMR's website claims the same max side w/Winchester cases.
I figured I was getting close and was going to try a couple more loads above 55.5g. I think 2,750 ftps is the standard velocity for 30-06/180g.
I'm not really chasing velocity but would like to get the fastest 'sweet spot'.
I have fired brass from Hornady factory ammo that is a light slow load which displays the same characteristics--flattened primer and slight edge around the firing pin mark.
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2018, 12:32:26 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 21, 2018, 12:44:23 PM
Post by: Cougartail on March 21, 2018, 12:49:27 PM
Post by: wooltie on March 21, 2018, 01:00:51 PM
When your primer is stuck to the bolt, I back off a bit.. lol I always load moderate loads in rifles as they seem to be more accurate?
I've heard many people say the mid range tends to be more consistent as well.
I shot a ladder in the 54.0-55.0 range which produced a spread of 18 ftps. Velocities were 2650, 2650, 2648, 2646, 2660, 2668. I bet that spread could drop somewhere in this range.
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on March 21, 2018, 01:06:39 PM
Post by: Matth on March 21, 2018, 01:54:44 PM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on March 21, 2018, 08:29:01 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 21, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
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Subtle pressure sign while working up loads for a .458-.375 Ultra Mag.
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Post by: mountainman on March 21, 2018, 09:02:10 PM
Primer looks good. No flattening.Agree. Good starting point. Learn to watch for real pressure signs (bolt lift, flattened primers, ejector polishing etc..) . primers cratering is not always a sign of over pressure. Move up slowly, watch for pressure signs 👍and accuracy curves. Doing so, you will never be able to post a pic of a broken gun or worse yet!
24" barrel? I'd say you are approaching max. Probably can't go much if any more powder.
BTW - I ran that load thru Quickload and it came up with 2,748 fps (from 24" barrel) at a pressure of 59,380 psi.
Without knowing the exact H20 capacity of your case and OAL, it is more of a guess, but I thru in the default H20 capacity and standard OAL of 3.34"
Post by: crabcreekhunter on March 21, 2018, 10:27:17 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 21, 2018, 11:05:22 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 22, 2018, 06:13:34 AM
Post by: birddogdad on March 22, 2018, 06:20:52 AM
While developing wildcat chamberings on the AR15 platform. This is a indication of excessive pressure. Part of the wildcat game. Anyone who worships quick load should drop a little more $$$ in that plate on the seventh day.😊 It's just a guide line. You have to pay to play, no matter the hobby/sport/addiction. Don't forget to buckle up, it's a great ride!👍
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Subtle pressure sign while working up loads for a .458-.375 Ultra Mag.
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hey Hammer, those the CE raptor brass bullets? how do you like? with or without tips?
Post by: birddogdad on March 22, 2018, 09:14:36 AM
Would appreciate anyone's input as to whether this primer is showing signs of excessive pressure.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle
you are well within the max recommended charge here.. make sure you are seated within limits too and no worries...
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 22, 2018, 09:29:00 AM
While developing wildcat chamberings on the AR15 platform. This is a indication of excessive pressure. Part of the wildcat game. Anyone who worships quick load should drop a little more $$$ in that plate on the seventh day.😊 It's just a guide line. You have to pay to play, no matter the hobby/sport/addiction. Don't forget to buckle up, it's a great ride!👍
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Subtle pressure sign while working up loads for a .458-.375 Ultra Mag.
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hey Hammer, those the CE raptor brass bullets? how do you like? with or without tips?
Yes. CEB 370gr Raptor Non-Con tipped. BC doesn't improve much with the tip, as if it really matters with a .458 diameter bullet. The tips helped a bunch with feeding from the box Mag due to their huge hollow point. Super accurate! Yorke got me interested in the "Hammer Bullets" I'm shooting them in .375, 7mm & .224. They are working on .458's. I'm looking forward to shooting some.
Post by: wooltie on April 23, 2018, 05:48:09 PM