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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: SkookumHntr on March 22, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
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Lookin at this caliber for my daughter, she's 12. Any reviews? Recoil? Range? Grouping etc
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Lookin at this caliber for my daughter, she's 12. Any reviews? Recoil? Range? Grouping etc
It's hard to find opinions and reviews on that one. Why are owners so tight lipped?
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Bought one for my kid last fall, he was 12. Ruger. Great little gun, out of the box accurate. Comfortable recoil. Lightweight to carry. I took it to Idaho deer hunting, one shot one kill. I did a little write up on the gun last Oct time frame. If you dig back it's there.
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low recoil, fantastic ballistics and range will depend on the rifle, scope and shooter combination. I love mine and my son shoots it all the time. He is 8. :tup:
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CREEDMOOR...........
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The wife shoots one . Lady Savage 6.5 Creedmoor, has had many other rifles but this is her favorite. Light recoil and designed for women. She has won some shoots, 200 and 400 yds. One shot kills deer and bear.
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I think it's just a great all-around caliber, good for young shooters, but also very capable for anyone. I know a lot of adults who have used the 6.5 Creedmoor on deer, bear and antelope.
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243 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm08 Rem. All excellent choices for low recoil.
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Helped my buddy set up his 6.5 Kimber a few weeks ago.
1/2 inch groups. Not that I believe in one short action cartridge being inherently more accurate than another.
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It's great for those seeking a gender neutral solution.
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It's great for those seeking a gender neutral solution.
:chuckle:
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My 6.5 Creedmoor
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It's great for those seeking a gender neutral solution.
:chuckle:
Funniest part about that is that is why i want a Savage Storm 6.5 my wife, girls and i can all shoot it. :chuckle:
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I have had the chance to shoot a few. Very pleasant and impressive ballistics. I've heard over and over by people that know their.......stuff......yeah we joke about man buns and all but there is no doubt it is a dandy cartridge and it flat shoots.
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The 6.5 Creed is right in middle of the 7mm-08 Remington and the 243 Winchester. Same case, with a bullet 2 hundredths of an inch smaller in diameter than the 7mm-08, and 2 hundredths of an inch bigger in diameter than the 243 Winchester.
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The 6.5 Creed is right in middle of the 7mm-08 Remington and the 243 Winchester. Same case, with a bullet 2 hundredths of an inch smaller in diameter than the 7mm-08, and 2 hundredths of an inch bigger in diameter than the 243 Winchester.
That'd be the 260 Rem, the practical choice since it can be formed from the 308 family. The Creed was built from the 30 TC, since that was a commercial hit...
Reviews are pretty universal, moderate recoil, usually accurate (that depends on the rifle as well), and good ballistics. Honestly it's a repackaged 6.5 x 55 Mauser with better off the shelf ammo availability.
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Well my daughter passed hunters safety Saturday and her new rifle is ordered!! Were getting the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor, paired with the Vortex Crossfire 4-12x44. Cant wait to hit the Range and clank some steel with this thing! :IBCOOL:
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The 6.5 Creed is right in middle of the 7mm-08 Remington and the 243 Winchester. Same case, with a bullet 2 hundredths of an inch smaller in diameter than the 7mm-08, and 2 hundredths of an inch bigger in diameter than the 243 Winchester.
That'd be the 260 Rem, the practical choice since it can be formed from the 308 family. The Creed was built from the 30 TC, since that was a commercial hit...
Reviews are pretty universal, moderate recoil, usually accurate (that depends on the rifle as well), and good ballistics. Honestly it's a repackaged 6.5 x 55 Mauser with better off the shelf ammo availability.
The Creedmoor can also be formed from the 308 family brass; same parent case but with the shoulder bumped back. Most of my 6.5 Creedmoor brass started as once fired LC 7.62 brass.
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Well my daughter passed hunters safety Saturday and her new rifle is ordered!! Were getting the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor, paired with the Vortex Crossfire 4-12x44. Cant wait to hit the Range and clank some steel with this thing! :IBCOOL:
I think you'll be very happy with that rifle. I can't bring myself to own a Creedmoor, but I have had a couple of 6.5x47 Lapua's which are the ballistic twin. It's a great chambering which typically shoots very well, offers lots of great bullet options, a growing selection of loaded ammo and lots of information from people who won't stop telling you how great it is. :chuckle:
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Ahhhhh another creedmoor thread. Haha
(https://s17.postimg.org/7z1nhjndr/CAD3419_A-86_ED-4762-9_FAC-0_ADBBD300_FE9.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/678omn40r/)
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Well my daughter passed hunters safety Saturday and her new rifle is ordered!! Were getting the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor, paired with the Vortex Crossfire 4-12x44. Cant wait to hit the Range and clank some steel with this thing! :IBCOOL:
Congrats. You'll enjoy that combo. Mine (my kids) likes Federal and Barnes ammo.
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Ahhhhh another creedmoor thread. Haha
(https://s17.postimg.org/7z1nhjndr/CAD3419_A-86_ED-4762-9_FAC-0_ADBBD300_FE9.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/678omn40r/)
Common, is that all you got. I think that meme has been used 100 times, there has got to be something new.
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My bad, but I like it... if you don’t, simply don’t comment
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My bad, but I like it... if you don’t, simply don’t comment
Lighten up Francis...geez.
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Who’s Francis?
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oh and when I go shoot this thing you guys will be hearing about it!! ;) :chuckle:
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,217188.0.html
Dug up my old thread hope it helps.
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Who’s Francis?
Its from stripes
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oh and when I go shoot this thing you guys will be hearing about it!! ;) :chuckle:
Don’t hear much bad about em, plethora of great ammo too.
Love Francis
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The 6.5 Creed is right in middle of the 7mm-08 Remington and the 243 Winchester. Same case, with a bullet 2 hundredths of an inch smaller in diameter than the 7mm-08, and 2 hundredths of an inch bigger in diameter than the 243 Winchester.
The 6.5 Creedmoor walks all over the 7-08 across the board. Hundredths matter :tup:
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The 6.5 Creed is right in middle of the 7mm-08 Remington and the 243 Winchester. Same case, with a bullet 2 hundredths of an inch smaller in diameter than the 7mm-08, and 2 hundredths of an inch bigger in diameter than the 243 Winchester.
The 6.5 Creedmoor walks all over the 7-08 across the board. Hundredths matter :tup:
I don't think so. Maybe if you're a target shooter who shoots out to 600 yards and further, it might have a slight advantage. But if you're a hunter who wants to shoot deer out to 300 yards, I seriously doubt there's any significant difference between the two.
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Well my daughter passed hunters safety Saturday and her new rifle is ordered!! Were getting the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor, paired with the Vortex Crossfire 4-12x44. Cant wait to hit the Range and clank some steel with this thing! :IBCOOL:
That's the exact package I've been looking at for my wife who just passed her test a few weeks back. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts. :tup:
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The 6.5 Creed is right in middle of the 7mm-08 Remington and the 243 Winchester. Same case, with a bullet 2 hundredths of an inch smaller in diameter than the 7mm-08, and 2 hundredths of an inch bigger in diameter than the 243 Winchester.
The 6.5 Creedmoor walks all over the 7-08 across the board. Hundredths matter :tup:
I don't think so. Maybe if you're a target shooter who shoots out to 600 yards and further, it might have a slight advantage. But if you're a hunter who wants to shoot deer out to 300 yards, I seriously doubt there's any significant difference between the two.
I think he was joking.
There are so many calibers available now, there is a ton of overlap. It reminds me of when I was shopping for a motorcycle. I would stress over these horsepower maps and spec sheets and eventually realized that under real world conditions, any one of the five bikes I was considering would be just fine. The factors the ended up influencing my decision were the market availability and most importantly, how I fit on the thing. If the one I didn't choose had 5 more horsepower at 7000 RPM, I never missed it.
I had a .308 which was my do-it-all rifle. That's a great idea on paper, but I realized that I get so few days in the field, and I think about hunting so often, that buying 2 rifles really pencils out long term. 6.5 Creedmoor is marginal on elk, at best. But the .308 isn't much better. So I decided to get the 6.5 for deer and under and a .300 winmag for anything more than that.
Out of all the intermediate options, I picked the Creedmoor for 3 reasons. One, my buddy had one he wanted out of, so he made me a great deal. Two, it's just a great cartridge within its limits. Three, the ammo is cheap. Good bullet construction drops in price over time. It seems that raw material cost doesn't. So eventually, a high tech bullet will be cheap, but brass, lead and powder seem to only ever get more expensive.
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The 300 win mag is all you need for deer or elk. But dang all this talk I’m really feeling a need for a 6.5 Creedmoor. Gonna happen.
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The 300 win mag is all you need for deer or elk. But dang all this talk I’m really feeling a need for a 6.5 Creedmoor. Gonna happen.
6.5 Creed with the SRP brass and RL16 is the ticket the speed with a 140 Berger is crazy fast topped out at 2980 fps on a ladder test. my accuracy node is at 2890 with sub half moa.
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Looks like everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Anyone not have their 6.5 CM yet?
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I need to get on this bandwagon... Its killing me not owning one.
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No 6.5 for me. Still quite happy with my 243
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I have nothing against the 6.5 Creed and they all seem to shoot pretty well but it's no secret I'm a big fan of the 6.5-284 so I don't see myself jumping ships any time soon. Even loaded to short action OAL's, the 6.5-284 out performs the 6.5 Creed.
IMO, the real winner, with regard to the 6.5 Creed, is the marketing department because they've taken a ho hum middle of the road performing cartridge and turned it into a superstar.
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When I went for a 6.5, there was no question about it...I was not getting a CM :chuckle:
Really I just wanted to utilize the potential of the bullets with an additional 300-400 FPS but for a young shooter, the CM would probably be great. No better than the 243, 260, 7mm-08 in my mind but certainly no worse.
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I've enjoyed shooting the guns I've handled in it, not because it's the latest fad to trip down the 6.5 line but because I do like to see these middle ground calibers making a comeback. There was a time when the concept of "enough gun" was understood. Now like jacked up trucks with golf balls in gloves, if you don't have a hard kicking caliber with a brain numbing muzzle break you're just not a real shooter.
The 6.5 along with the 7x08, 308, 270win puts holes in targets, game animals down and is a pleasure to shoot.
Unless you're going after big bears, there's really nothing to dislike.
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the thing i notice (and what makes me slightly upset) about the 6.5CM is for how new of a cartridge it is, it is really inexpensive to buy good ammo for. i'm talking sub-$20 a box.
i saw remington cor-lokt ammo rolled out in 6.5CM for something like $18.99 a box advertised. don't see why they'd do that, when they charge around $30 for .260 and nearly as much for 7mm-08. it's almost like they want their own offspring to fail.
i remember when i was shopping for a "nice" hunting rifle in 2009, ruger was making the M77 in 6.5 creedmoor. it looked attractive to me but it was such a new chambering at the time, and you'd maybe see one ammo offering on the shelf. i ended up going with a 7mm-08 instead. things seem to have exploded in the past year or two, now it's everywhere.
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i saw remington cor-lokt ammo rolled out in 6.5CM for something like $18.99 a box advertised. don't see why they'd do that, when they charge around $30 for .260 and nearly as much for 7mm-08. it's almost like they want their own offspring to fail.
That's called economy of scale. Price per individual unit is lower when you're making them in higher volumes. 6.5 Creedmoor is being produced and sold in much higher volumes than .260, 7/08, etc, so the ammo is cheaper. Same reason why 9mm ammo is usually cheaper than .380 Auto.
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the thing i notice (and what makes me slightly upset) about the 6.5CM is for how new of a cartridge it is, it is really inexpensive to buy good ammo for. i'm talking sub-$20 a box.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/656_2081_10000778/products_id/18132/Hornady%20American%20Whitetail%206.5%20Creedmoor%20129g%20InterLock/
These are what I shoot. I haven't used on on a deer yet, but I've got faith they should perform. Less than $.9 a round.
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I have nothing against the 6.5 Creed and they all seem to shoot pretty well but it's no secret I'm a big fan of the 6.5-284 so I don't see myself jumping ships any time soon. Even loaded to short action OAL's, the 6.5-284 out performs the 6.5 Creed.
IMO, the real winner, with regard to the 6.5 Creed, is the marketing department because they've taken a ho hum middle of the road performing cartridge and turned it into a superstar.
120 year old Swede beats it also :dunno:
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Not in the availability, practicality or man bun department
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Ok cartridge, but give me a 7-08 for hunting every time.
Besides, I don't have enough hair left on top for a man-bun anyways☺
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Like it or love it. It’s here to stay, great chambering. Some have sniveled about it being a “Fad” cartridge for years and have since changed their tune. The guys that seriously drove them out of the gate knew the chambering was a performer. Now with a huge selection of ammo, especially from Hornady. Seriously accurate factory fodder out of a wide variety of factory rifles. If a guy can slap a trigger worth a darn, 1/2” MOA from a $400.00 factory rifle isn’t too shabby. At around $20.00 bucks a box to feed it. A guy doesn’t even need to invest the time or money to reload.
Some pitched the 6.5x47 for years before the Creedmoor’s arrival and members here ate it up. What’s the difference? I like shooting everything. Depends on my mood. Nothing wrong with super magnums, some just can’t drive them. Nothing wrong with a 6x45. They all kill stuff.
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Picked up a box of 143grn Hornadys, gonna see how she likes them this weekend if weather hold out!
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I have nothing against the 6.5 Creed and they all seem to shoot pretty well but it's no secret I'm a big fan of the 6.5-284 so I don't see myself jumping ships any time soon. Even loaded to short action OAL's, the 6.5-284 out performs the 6.5 Creed.
IMO, the real winner, with regard to the 6.5 Creed, is the marketing department because they've taken a ho hum middle of the road performing cartridge and turned it into a superstar.
Yup, in agreement. Don't think anyone here thinks its a "bad" cartridge, just that its no worse, but no better then other mid power 6.5 rounds. Kinda like arguing 257 Imp over 25-06 over 25/284. Not that much of a gap in performance between the lot. Those that aren't on fire" for the Creedmore are more against the "fanboy" mentality from advertisers driving the popularity. But some are easily led in that regard😉
Some even lurk here👍