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Title: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Buckmark on April 11, 2018, 09:28:12 AM
In my front lot this morning   
Atleast they build in job security  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Viking360 on April 11, 2018, 01:34:21 PM
haha, ill have to show this to some die hard chevy guys at work.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: fish vacuum on April 11, 2018, 04:16:14 PM
Lol
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Grit dog on May 21, 2018, 09:59:36 PM
Well, they all need something, but considering the newest ones there are 5-10 years old, one that's 10-15 years old, 1 that can now drink legally and 1 that is approaching 30 years old, I'd say it's a testament to how long they last!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Mudman on May 21, 2018, 10:14:37 PM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: RadSav on May 22, 2018, 01:29:42 AM
Never owned a Dodge that was worth the price I paid for it.  Ford, Chevy and surprisingly Nissan have treated me really well.  If I was given a 2018 Dodge for free...I'd immediately sell it and buy a used something else.  Anything else!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 22, 2018, 05:08:59 AM
 :tup:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Timberstalker on May 22, 2018, 05:11:12 AM
Never owned a Dodge that was worth the price I paid for it.  Ford, Chevy and surprisingly Nissan have treated me really well.  If I was given a 2018 Dodge for free...I'd immediately sell it and buy a used something else.  Anything else!

While I value you in almost every post prior to this, I believe I now have to use the “Block Feature.”

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 22, 2018, 05:12:02 AM
say it isn't so
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: RadSav on May 22, 2018, 06:01:04 AM
Never owned a Dodge that was worth the price I paid for it.  Ford, Chevy and surprisingly Nissan have treated me really well.  If I was given a 2018 Dodge for free...I'd immediately sell it and buy a used something else.  Anything else!

While I value you in almost every post prior to this, I believe I now have to use the “Block Feature.”

 :chuckle:

 :chuckle: :chuckle:
Have had three of them.  Each a giant POS.  Wife's Charger gets a recall notice about twice a week, none that fix any of the problems.  So I guess the cars aren't much better.  Carry 20 spare fuses, lots of wire, crimpers and connectors, couple gallons of transmission fluid and a Sat' Phone - would be my recommendation for Dodge owners.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 22, 2018, 06:20:48 AM
Wife had a 2007 Dodge Magnum with 3.5 and AWD.  Couldn't have ever asked for more from it (except for it to be the 5.7)

I've got a 2000 1/2 ton with the 5.9 that I've only had to limp back to the highway for a water-pump in 160,000 miles of abuse--thanks again @BULLBLASTER  :chuckle:  Also, I've got a 2012 Ram that so far is doing fine but is certainly nothing fancy. 

I've basically come to the conclusion that I will despise anything new I purchase vehicle-wise.  I think brand loyalty is usually misplaced in the automobile world.  They all put out winners sometimes and they all put out a turd.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: boneaddict on May 22, 2018, 06:27:32 AM
I’ve went.....Dodge, Ford, Dodge, Dodge, Dodge, Ford. 
First Dodge was great, wrecked it,
First Ford was a piece
Then an awesome Dodge,
Then less awesome,
Then too car like,
Back to Ford. Great truck.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Antlershed on May 22, 2018, 07:10:17 AM
After having a 2011 Silverado 1500 that went to hell after 85k mikes, I fully support this photo.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: bhawley76 on May 22, 2018, 07:40:21 AM
Last I checked they circled the answer not the problem. :twocents:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 22, 2018, 07:48:16 AM
All those GM products obviously have pulled an RV to the repair shop for fixin' and are just sitting inside having coffee with the shop owner... geesh Buckmark, you misinterpreted what you saw.  Everybody knows Chevy's rule and all the others drool  :chuckle:

Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: 7mmfan on May 22, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
I've owned 2 trucks. First was a 92 Toyota 4 banger. Ran it to 285,000 before I sold it. Ran like a top. Bought a 2008 Silverado 5.3 with 23,000 on it, and I now have almost 180,000 on it, with zero problems. Like has been said, they all make good ones, and they all make turds. So far I've been lucky.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Dhoey07 on May 22, 2018, 09:56:20 AM
I'd say that the picture shows that GM's are worth fixing  :tup:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: jrebel on May 22, 2018, 10:11:17 AM
Ford....half ton only!!!  May be able to convince me to buy a new 6.7 but 10 years prior suck arse. 
Chevy.....well the pic tells it all. 
Dodge.....I have no complaints and have owned two diesel and have no complaints.   :tup:

I love these debates!!!!!   :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: bobcat on May 22, 2018, 10:20:58 AM
I don't have much experience with different trucks, have only had Chevy's. My 2002 Silverado with the 5.3 has over 150,000 miles and I've only had to replace the fuel pump, alternator a couple times, the brakes, and shocks. That's in 16 1/2 years. Towed quite a bit with it too. So I can't imagine a much better track record. However if I ever buy another truck I might get a Ford just to try something different.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Antlershed on May 22, 2018, 11:25:48 AM
But I'll leave you all with this.....buy a tundra and don't worry about it 8)
:yeah:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 22, 2018, 11:38:50 AM
Nice truck but you should have gotten MGM color
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: CP on May 22, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
21 years, 200,000 miles, still going strong.

 8)
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Antlershed on May 22, 2018, 12:22:38 PM
Nice truck but you should have gotten MGM color
They couldn’t find one available with the right options when I was buying, and I wasn’t in a position to be able to wait for them to build me one.  :tup:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: h20hunter on May 22, 2018, 12:31:28 PM
I'm fond of this color....
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: fish vacuum on May 22, 2018, 12:42:07 PM


I don't have much experience with different trucks, have only had Chevy's. My 2002 Silverado with the 5.3 has over 150,000 miles and I've only had to replace the fuel pump, alternator a couple times, the brakes, and shocks. That's in 16 1/2 years. Towed quite a bit with it too. So I can't imagine a much better track record.

I always chuckle when guys say how great their truck has been, then list all the stuff they've had to replace. The 2 current Toyotas in my driveway have a combined 360k on them and the newer of the two is 18 years old. I know the complete vehicle history from both the original owners. Brakes, batteries, plugs & wires is all they've had replaced. My previous Toyota was purchased at 100k and sold at 220k. One A-arm bushing was the only other thing it ever needed.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: bobcat on May 22, 2018, 12:49:00 PM


I don't have much experience with different trucks, have only had Chevy's. My 2002 Silverado with the 5.3 has over 150,000 miles and I've only had to replace the fuel pump, alternator a couple times, the brakes, and shocks. That's in 16 1/2 years. Towed quite a bit with it too. So I can't imagine a much better track record.

I always chuckle when guys say how great their truck has been, then list all the stuff they've had to replace. The 2 current Toyotas in my driveway have a combined 360k on them and the newer of the two is 18 years old. I know the complete vehicle history from both the original owners. Brakes, batteries, plugs & wires is all they've had replaced. My previous Toyota was purchased at 100k and sold at 220k. One A-arm bushing was the only other thing it ever needed.

A fuel pump and an alternator in over 16 years is excessive you think? I hear of expensive things going out like transmissions and engines on newer trucks, so I thought my luck was pretty good. But again I don't have much to compare to as I've not owned anything else.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: fish vacuum on May 22, 2018, 12:57:07 PM


A fuel pump and an alternator in over 16 years is excessive you think? I hear of expensive things going out like transmissions and engines on newer trucks, so I thought my luck was pretty good. But again I don't have much to compare to as I've not owned anything else.

A fuel pump and 2 alternators might not be excessive, but it's not as good as zero fuel pumps and zero alternators. The cost for those repairs isn't much. The headache of possibly being broke down somewhere is worth a lot.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Antlershed on May 22, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
I'm fond of this color....
Your driveway is steep!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: deerlick on May 22, 2018, 01:13:19 PM
as a mechanic at an independent shop that works on every make. the better answer is pre emission dodge diesel and tundra. best of both worlds. love my trucks
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: jackelope on May 22, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Buckmark on May 22, 2018, 01:16:47 PM
I'm fond of this color....
So they could not sell it huh, employee program vehicle  :chuckle:
It fits you, im sure it is within the pink color spectrum
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: h20hunter on May 22, 2018, 01:18:51 PM
Yup....just dont feel the same behind the wheel.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Timberstalker on May 23, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.

Easy turbo  :chuckle:.......  Dodge stood behind my RAM entirely - even with 14 trips to the service department in the first 8 months of ownership of a New truck!
But she breathes better now!  And runs, like a raped ape!  Haven't had her to the service shop in 13,000 miles - My longest run since I bought her new in 2014.

But even with all of that BS above, I'll never own another GM rig again.  My 2010 Chevropuke blew up with 102,000 miles on it.  Had a 100K mile Bumper to Bumper warranty and they told me to pound sand.

They offered to sell me a brand new Duramax for Cheap, real cheap.  I told the owner of the dealership, that if I had the extra cash, I would buy the Dmax and take it down to our mall in town, sell tickets and burn it.  He didn't like that.

Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: gee_unit360 on May 23, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
But I'll leave you all with this.....buy a tundra and don't worry about it 8)
:yeah:
:yeah:   Set it and forget it... Tundra
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Mudman on May 23, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.
If you replace with Kore, Carli, Thuren etc they steer good!  Bilstein a good idea too.  Yeah remove the Gov and they are pretty darn good.  I did the Valair double clutch as well.  Required for manuals with power.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Buckmark on May 23, 2018, 04:11:29 PM
I should of named this thread What brand of truck YOU should buy so i can pay my bills  :chuckle:

I looked back at these and this group was good for almost 12k worth of billed work   :tup:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Mudman on May 24, 2018, 06:32:55 PM
 :dunno:  All I know is my Dodge cummins have cost me significantly less $ to operate.  Have their faults yes.  I liked my 01 F350 the best but man it hit me hard in the wallet.  Little 01 s-10 was a great car but firewood made it scream "Help"! :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: jackelope on May 24, 2018, 08:15:52 PM
They all have their problems. Nobody can ever dispute that.

Just like to flip crap when the opportunity arises.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: jrebel on May 24, 2018, 08:36:44 PM
Dodges look better than the other two.   :peep:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: kckrawler on May 24, 2018, 08:59:35 PM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.

Haven't had her to the service shop in 13,000 miles - My longest run since I bought her new in 2014.

So you're saying that you haven't been in the shop in 13k miles? Impressive  :o
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 24, 2018, 09:41:11 PM
Just my opinion here, these are not the policies of this forum.

If you want a very strong, longest lasting truck on the road, trailering SOB, buy a GMC or Chevy.
If you want a rickety, steaming piece of doo, buy a Dodge.
If you want to pour the price of the truck into it over the next 10 years, buy a Ford.
If you want something that can barely pull a motorcycle trailer, buy a Nissan or a Toyota.

And as far as the Tundra goes, my buddies full size could barely move my boat and trailer on level ground. 
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Antlershed on May 24, 2018, 09:44:51 PM
Just my opinion here, these are not the policies of this forum.

If you want a very strong, longest lasting truck on the road, trailering SOB, buy a GMC or Chevy.
If you want a rickety, steaming piece of doo, buy a Dodge.
If you want to pour the price of the truck into it over the next 10 years, buy a Ford.
If you want something that can barely pull a motorcycle trailer, buy a Nissan or a Toyota.

And as far as the Tundra goes, my buddies full size could barely move my boat and trailer on level ground.
Could barely move it? How big is your boat?  :o
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: jackelope on May 24, 2018, 09:59:07 PM
It’s 74’ long and weighs 156k pounds.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: PlateauNDN on May 24, 2018, 10:22:47 PM
Ram, nuff said. 8)
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Timberstalker on May 25, 2018, 05:09:42 AM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.

Haven't had her to the service shop in 13,000 miles - My longest run since I bought her new in 2014.

So you're saying that you haven't been in the shop in 13k miles? Impressive  :o

Absolutely impressive!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: CP on May 25, 2018, 06:12:41 AM
2 weeks and almost 500 miles, zero problems.  :)

And it pulls stuff too.

Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: C-Money on May 25, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
First pickup was an 84 F150 300-6, had rear axle issues

Second truck was an 86 F250, 6.9 diesel. Had vacuum pump, and fuel pump issues that were really not a big deal. Drove the wheels off that old pickup and wish I still had it.

Third truck 04 F350 V-10 gas. awesome pickup, zero complaints.

The above pickups are my personal, play/haul pickups. I have owned a tundra, and a suburban, and now a 99 Tahoe that are considered family cars. The 01 suburban was great, until all the electrical things just up and quit working. Traded it on the Tundra. Tundra was to expensive, had an opportunity to sell it, and done so. Tundra was in the shop a lot, water pump, re built the rear end, re built the front end, lots of shop time, but all warranty covered. 99 tahoe has been good, replaced fuel pump, spider injection harness, water pump, Rt rear axle. Bought a 05 Nissan Sentra brand new, 184,000 miles and still going strong. Had to have the tranny pulled and worked on at 62,000.  Point being, in my days of car ownership, the Nissan and the Fords have been in the shop the least of all the vehicles I have owned.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: thinkingman on May 25, 2018, 09:29:06 AM
But I'll leave you all with this.....buy a tundra and don't worry about it 8)
:yeah:
:yeah:   Set it and forget it... Tundra
Don't worry about the frame rusting and collapsing?  There is a recall for that.
Don't worry about the bed rust perforation?  There is a recall for that.
Don't worry that the rear springs lose their arch and Toyota doesn't care....
Not much of a truck unless you just want a lift and 35s and stare at it.
Toyota is the most overrated brand on the road.
Only buy it for the styling.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: kselkhunter on May 25, 2018, 09:51:01 AM
But I'll leave you all with this.....buy a tundra and don't worry about it 8)
:yeah:
:yeah:   Set it and forget it... Tundra
Don't worry about the frame rusting and collapsing?  There is a recall for that.
Don't worry about the bed rust perforation?  There is a recall for that.
Don't worry that the rear springs lose their arch and Toyota doesn't care....
Not much of a truck unless you just want a lift and 35s and stare at it.
Toyota is the most overrated brand on the road.
Only buy it for the styling.

There is plenty of statistical, factual data online on vehicle reliability that proves Toyota is a very reliable brand.   

My personal experiences:

First Toyota: 1991 Toyota pickup.   I sold it to my friend for his kid to use in 2004.  After his son graduated college he sold it to his landscaper for his kid to use.  Had my friend in town last week, and he said my old truck is still in use by his landscaper's kid, with over 350K miles now.  Had to have the clutch replaced at 280,000 miles.  Not a single other major problem in 27 years of use thus far. 

Second truck: 2004 Tundra.   Still chugging along at 145K miles.   One recall that I remember for passenger airbag, which took a few hours to swap out at no cost to me.  That is the only issue in 14 years so far.....
never had anything break or need to be replaced other than the usual maintenance.  I love my Tundra so much that I've retired it to only a woods vehicle to stretch it's life span with less annual miles.  Bought a Ford Explorer two years ago for my every day vehicle, and the Tundra is for hunting/fishing purposes. 


Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: thinkingman on May 25, 2018, 11:07:28 AM
Keeping a car on the road and excellent design are two entirely different things.
I see a lot o 1967 Dodge Darts on the road, too....

The design and execution flaws in Toyota vehicles are glaring, if you look for them.

Frames rusting out...Rear springs that aren't....How do you ignore that stuff?
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: jackelope on May 25, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.

Haven't had her to the service shop in 13,000 miles - My longest run since I bought her new in 2014.

So you're saying that you haven't been in the shop in 13k miles? Impressive  :o

Absolutely impressive!

Yer gonna blow 'er up if you don't get 'er in for a LOF!!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Timberstalker on May 25, 2018, 02:27:19 PM
Chev makes a fancy PU.  Dodge/Ram makes a truck.  Ford cant decide.
:rolleyes:
Ya...as long as you don't mind not being able to steer. Those Dodges are a hell of a truck once you modify the crap out of them and undo everything Dodge did.

Haven't had her to the service shop in 13,000 miles - My longest run since I bought her new in 2014.

So you're saying that you haven't been in the shop in 13k miles? Impressive  :o

Absolutely impressive!

Yer gonna blow 'er up if you don't get 'er in for a LOF!!

That happens in my garage!  Every 4k!  She's ready to run.  Haven't seen the Engine Light on in almost 4 months!!
No more exhaust and a RaceMe Tuner, she's breathing well!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Mudman on May 25, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
Dudes excavator broke down on site.  Hitachi.  Pape comes out to repair.  $$$.  Tech working and I ask him "its egr again huh?"  Yup he says.  Point is remove the Gov.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: magnanimous_j on June 05, 2018, 11:27:07 AM
I'm sure Chevy makes a very capable truck. But when I was selling, we would get them in on trade sometimes and I thought the fit and finish was junk. 30k and the interiors would be trashed. The leather would be worn and creased, many times cracking. The dashes would be faded and cracked. The whole thing squeeked and creaked. And this was in Western Washington.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 05, 2018, 12:19:46 PM
Yup....just dont feel the same behind the wheel.




At least you won't get lost and can be seen from the sky when stuck in the mud.......
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 05, 2018, 12:37:03 PM
I don't have much brand loyalty, but here's my own experiences and rundown:

1984 Nissan King Cab 4 cyl - gutless wonder, worst truck ever
1985 F150 Xcab - 300/6, 3spd manual with a granny gear - the one that got away, best truck ever, wish I still had it.  Sold it when the girlfriend moved in and she needed a place to park (I had two other vehicles and a motorcycle, plus my state truck)
1990 GMC xcab - 350, A/T, great finish and comfort, too bad it overheated on steep hills in hot weather, changed thermostat numerous times - no fix
1997 Dodge Ram 1500 Xcab - 318, 5 spd manual - 2nd best truck - bought new, drove it hard for 12 years without a single repair, best clearance with stock tires of any 1/2 ton.  Fuel pump finally went out at 148k miles, only repair on that truck.  Only sold it because my son outgrew the Xcab, still see it driving in town
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Crew Cab - 5.7l Hemi, A/T 108k miles so far.  Most comfortable truck ever, but lost at least 4 1/2" less clearance compared to the 1997.  Got the lifetime powertrain warranty, which is good because otherwise I'd be out of pocket over 6k so far.  Tows GREAT, fun to accelerate though I'm not a fan of the wire drive delay.  Unless I wreck it plan to keep it forever, but it's not perfect by any stretch.  Key fobs are a POS that stop working the locks after 1-2 years, replaced two under warranty and declined $250/pop to keep replacing them - at least there is a key in the fob to unlock manually, and it still works after the electronics die to start the truck

I've also had several state, county and university rigs:
1986 Chevy 1/2 ton and 1990 GMC 1500 Xcab, both 350 ATs - the Bighorn Mountains ate both of these trucks in less than 20,000 miles each of rough roads.  The guys at the tow/repair shop in Buffalo, after a few 4-5 hour round trips to fetch these broke down wonders, taught me to use the rollback and would let me take it and fetch them myself.  Murica! 
1992 F250 - V8 5spd MT good tough truck but MAN did it ride rough! 
1996 Ram 1500 360 5spd MT good tough truck and much nicer ride, this is the one that inspired me to buy the 1997 for myself
2001 Ford Expedition - what a POS
2000 Chevy 1500 Xcab - nice riding truck, towed well, lots of plasticky junk that cracked, broke or stopped working.  Lousy clearance, but the powertrain was durable and dependable - except the electronic hubs which had a bad habit of not working when it would have been really nice to have 4wd (same for the 1990 GMC)
2008 Chevy 1500 Crew cab - great dependable truck, don't recall ever having an issue
2016 Chevy 1500 Crew cab - so far so good, hate the wire drive delay and not as powerful as predecessor

If I do buy another truck, I'm really tempted to find another mid-80s F150 with the 300/6, MT and 4.11 rear.  Super easy to work on, and I still miss my first good truck.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 05, 2018, 12:52:38 PM
2007 Tundra 4.7L V8. I like it a lot more than that POC Grand Cherokee Laredo money pit.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: BlacktailBuck on July 07, 2018, 10:06:07 AM
My dad bought Ford after Ford after Ford.  He once told me before he passed ...." I will continue to buy a ford until I get a good one.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: PolarBear on July 07, 2018, 11:16:14 AM
1 ton Ford with the 7.3 and you can tow anything. You can't tow 7 tons of hay over the pass with a Tundra.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Buckmark on July 07, 2018, 11:23:07 AM
1 ton Ford with the 7.3 and you can tow anything. You can't tow 7 tons of hay over the pass with a Tundra.  :chuckle:
Sure you can, just make multiple trips   :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: rtspring on July 07, 2018, 11:44:05 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Special T on July 07, 2018, 12:10:00 PM
Never owned a Dodge that was worth the price I paid for it.  Ford, Chevy and surprisingly Nissan have treated me really well.  If I was given a 2018 Dodge for free...I'd immediately sell it and buy a used something else.  Anything else!
I've owned 5. 03-07 is the best vintage, and if I could use emissions delete stuff I'd buy some of the newer Cummins with the 6 speed stick.

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Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 07, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!

Never owned fords or thought much of them until riding in RTs Ford.......what a ride, it's like sitting on pillows..........it may or may not have rocked me to sleep once or twice.....

Wait, what??? Dodge I tell ya, dodge. :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Timberstalker on July 07, 2018, 01:58:36 PM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!

Never owned fords or thought much of them until riding in RTs Ford.......what a ride, it's like sitting on pillows..........it may or may not have rocked me to sleep once or twice.....

Wait, what??? Dodge I tell ya, dodge. :chuckle:

You traitor!
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: bigmacc on July 08, 2018, 07:56:55 PM
My dad bought Ford after Ford after Ford.  He once told me before he passed ...." I will continue to buy a ford until I get a good one.


 :tup:..Thats a great quote from your dad.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: h20hunter on July 08, 2018, 07:59:46 PM
 :tup:


Tundras burn gas....yup...that is what happens when they don't sit in the shop.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 08, 2018, 08:57:15 PM
Haven't seen this in a while.  My boat and trailer weigh 9000-10000 lbs (depending on fuel load, etc.)  If you buy a Tundra, trying to pull that much, you will most likely die trying.  Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 08, 2018, 09:17:42 PM
Heres a definitive list for what not to buy in no particular order:

Toyota
Nissan
Chevy
Gmc

Yup, that sums it up, oh and Ford. :chuckle:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: wadu1 on July 08, 2018, 09:50:32 PM
I've owned Ford, Dodge and Chevy, Chevy's have given me the best performance and the least amount of repair work. Here is a photo of a friends 2018 F250 with 7, 400 miles after a 15 minutes, just a pile of aluminum puddles
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 08, 2018, 11:00:16 PM
Plat, c'mon man.  Ford, really?  Found On Road Dead (Yes, Ford).  Go GMC or go home.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 08, 2018, 11:06:40 PM
Plat, c'mon man.  Ford, really?  Found On Road Dead (Yes, Ford).  Go GMC or go home.

I've driven a ford for work in the mts and the pre-2010 model f250 was awesome for low gear crawling and I've ridden in Rt's for 2 years and it's like rockin' a baby to sleep. Such a smooth ride. :chuckle:

But......go dodge! :tup:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Crunchy on July 08, 2018, 11:24:44 PM
Love my girl.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: JWEBB on July 09, 2018, 12:54:56 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: baker5150 on July 09, 2018, 07:18:30 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:

I will never understand how guys can put any faith into Ford Motor Company after the 6.0 and 6.4.
They screwed a LOT of people.


Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 09, 2018, 07:33:37 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:

I will never understand how guys can put any faith into Ford Motor Company after the 6.0 and 6.4.
They screwed a LOT of people.
Think that was more people than Chevy screwed over with the 2006-2009 5.3?  :dunno:
After what I went through with that I’ll never buy another new gm.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: baker5150 on July 09, 2018, 08:00:04 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:

I will never understand how guys can put any faith into Ford Motor Company after the 6.0 and 6.4.
They screwed a LOT of people.
Think that was more people than Chevy screwed over with the 2006-2009 5.3?  :dunno:
After what I went through with that I’ll never buy another new gm.

Oil consumption?  or?

I've ran hundreds of GM fleet rigs, mostly 5.3 and some 6.0. Only issues we've had are cheap interiors, paint, an a couple flex plates have cracked.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Dhoey07 on July 09, 2018, 09:26:28 AM
Love my girl.

A girl truck???  :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:  :o
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: 7mmfan on July 09, 2018, 09:56:08 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:

I will never understand how guys can put any faith into Ford Motor Company after the 6.0 and 6.4.
They screwed a LOT of people.
Think that was more people than Chevy screwed over with the 2006-2009 5.3?  :dunno:
After what I went through with that I’ll never buy another new gm.

Oil consumption?  or?

I've ran hundreds of GM fleet rigs, mostly 5.3 and some 6.0. Only issues we've had are cheap interiors, paint, an a couple flex plates have cracked.

I have a 2008 5.3 and its approaching 180k with zero issues. It does use some oil though.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: BeWitty on July 09, 2018, 10:17:22 AM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:

I will never understand how guys can put any faith into Ford Motor Company after the 6.0 and 6.4.
They screwed a LOT of people.
Think that was more people than Chevy screwed over with the 2006-2009 5.3?  :dunno:
After what I went through with that I’ll never buy another new gm.

Oil consumption?  or?

I've ran hundreds of GM fleet rigs, mostly 5.3 and some 6.0. Only issues we've had are cheap interiors, paint, an a couple flex plates have cracked.

I have a 2008 5.3 and its approaching 180k with zero issues. It does use some oil though.

Have you looked into the Range Tuner? It turns the AFM off and will stop using oil and fouling plugs. $200 on Amazon and worth every penny. Many of the 5.3l motors have this problem and this seems to solve the problem in most cases. It did for me.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: 7mmfan on July 09, 2018, 11:05:08 AM
I haven't. So far it hasn't really been a problem. My mechanic did the last tune up and didn't mention anything about fouled plugs.
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 09, 2018, 01:07:19 PM
Tundras eat gas! Chevys need 3 blocks to turn around!  Buy a Ford and spend money on guns!


 :tup: :yeah:

I will never understand how guys can put any faith into Ford Motor Company after the 6.0 and 6.4.
They screwed a LOT of people.
Think that was more people than Chevy screwed over with the 2006-2009 5.3?  :dunno:
After what I went through with that I’ll never buy another new gm.

Oil consumption?  or?

I've ran hundreds of GM fleet rigs, mostly 5.3 and some 6.0. Only issues we've had are cheap interiors, paint, an a couple flex plates have cracked.
Yes oil consumption, In mine it lead to fouled plugs that I replaced numerous times (gm wouldn’t warranty) and finally a dead #7 hole. Gm would not warranty it at that point either. Had to go to regional warranty rep for gm and they told me that I didn’t buy the truck from the dealer I had been working with.  there was literally zero record of me having bought a gm truck or ever had it in that dealers. They stuck to that story even after I produced the paperwork from the day I bought it brand new, then they offered to pay 40% of the engine rebuild. It was a headache that went on for 3 years...
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Sneaky on July 09, 2018, 03:26:44 PM
I drive a 2015 chevy 5.3 daily. Less than 50k miles the brakes failed, needed a new vacuum pump. Uses oil like crazy. No reason a brand new truck in this day and age should use oil like that....2 quarts in between oil changes.

All trucks have their issues but the made in mexico hot garbage chevy has been producing recently wouldn't even be on my radar for a new purchase
Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Gobble Doc on July 09, 2018, 09:11:29 PM
No complaints with my 2003 Tacoma. In last 15 years I had to replace a window motor, alternator, and intake manifold gasket a couple months ago. It has never once not started for me or stranded me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180710/a4d79b5c90d5ec3494744b63641aed9f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180710/7e7cb00be6fed69b5477fefd39a6be88.jpg)


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Title: Re: What brand of truck not to buy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 09, 2018, 09:24:24 PM
No complaints with my 2003 Tacoma. In last 15 years I had to replace a window motor, alternator, and intake manifold gasket a couple months ago. It has never once not started for me or stranded me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180710/a4d79b5c90d5ec3494744b63641aed9f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180710/7e7cb00be6fed69b5477fefd39a6be88.jpg)


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My tacoma will fit wall tent wood stove all camping gear, chainsaw cooler on the hitch extender and has never failed me either. 161k on it. Best option all around!!
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