Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
I have been reading here for a fair length of time and I have found that there are members and friends of members here that have had strange encounters while investing in many of the pursuits we discuss here.
This topic is not a a place to debate, trash or harass folks who want to discuss events or experiences thet have taken place. If joking, wasting peoples time and running the subject it's comedy course is desired please take it to another thread. The subject and some individuals involved certainly deserve some laughs but there is a select group of people who take the data side of this very seriously.
The motivation is simply to understand how these creatures survive and exist in our current state of ecology, killing one of these creatures is not an objective our group is invested in.
I hope to here both privately and within the thread about what you or someone you know has experienced. If you chose to reach out privately to me I want to make it clear that your information will remain private.
Sasquatch behavior is something that is not well understood and it does expand beyond much more than yells, and banging on trees.
Noted strange happenings we hear about from areas of reports and track finds include the following.
- Gibberish talking sounds - almost like the speech patterns attempted by a hearing impaired person but often very angry and or emotional, we also hear that the volume and pitch is deeper or seemingly ,, not normal for a human ,,. Also sometimes described like someone who is excited talking but there is not clear words presented.
- Wooing / Screaming - This is often either far off or very close to a witness and is described as similar to some of the sounds chimps, bonobos and gorilla produce. It can also be paired with knocking, whistles, grunts and ground thumps. Sound type specifically noted would be Whoops, Moan Howls, Guttural screaming, Bellowing and even peacock type sounds.
- Whistles - Loud, and sharp ( not bird like ) both short and long in duration.
- Knocks / Slaps / Ground thumps and Rock Clacks - Both loud and subdued and mostly at night, these sounds will also typically take place from more than a single location as it is believed based on the information to be a form of communication.
- Vehicle Shaking / Rocking - Hitting, tapping and moving of cars and trailers parked in more remote areas. It is believed at this point this is either test to see if their is people around or possibly just interest in the object itself.
- Metal Tapping / Banging - Sounds similar to a tin / steel can being beaten or drummed with a stick.
- Rock / Object throwing - This seems to most often happen in areas ( not frequented normally by human traffic ) where people setup camp or park for longer periods of time at night. It also happens to fisherman along river ways. We believe this is to possible way they push people out of an area or a way to get free food.
- Tree Destruction - waving, repeated cracking and dismantling of trees in a area near a remote camp ( not simply a tree falling ), in some cases the entire tree has been pulled up and positioned across a road way ( almost as if to block ), this is believed to be a form of intimidation or a display.
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 11, 2018, 10:50:04 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on April 11, 2018, 10:54:19 AM
Post by: ryan2202 on April 11, 2018, 11:05:50 AM
Hunting along a hillside, dropping down towards a riverbed - chasing deer, I've had huge river rocks thrown towards me.
During a hunting trip, sleeping in the bed of my truck with the canopy for shelter, I've felt the truck rock, heard something brushing up against it - the .45 moved a little closure to me that night.
It's been a while now - but I remember these times pretty well - one reason my heads stays on a swivel when I'm out the woods alone -
But the outdoors keeps calling and I keep answering....maybe someday I'll meet Mr. Squatch
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 11, 2018, 11:11:39 AM
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:chuckle: I don't think I'd want to meet him, right @Dan-o
Post by: trophyhunt on April 11, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
Post by: N7XW on April 11, 2018, 11:42:39 AM
Hello everyone, I am a sasquatch report investigator based in western WA state ( also not to bad of a deer hunter either :) ).
I have been reading here for a fair length of time and I have found that there are members and friends of members here that have had strange encounters while investing in many of the pursuits we discuss here.
This topic is not a a place to debate, trash or harass folks who want to discuss events or experiences thet have taken place. If joking, wasting peoples time and running the subject it's comedy course is desired please take it to another thread. The subject and some individuals involved certainly deserve some laughs but there is a select group of people who take the data side of this very seriously.
The motivation is simply to understand how these creatures survive and exist in our current state of ecology, killing one of these creatures is not an objective our group is invested in.
I hope to here both privately and within the thread about what you or someone you know has experienced. If you chose to reach out privately to me I want to make it clear that your information will remain private.
Sasquatch behavior is something that is not well understood and it does expand beyond much more than yells, and banging on trees.
Noted strange happenings we hear about from areas of reports and track finds include the following.
- Gibberish talking sounds - almost like the speech patterns attempted by a hearing impaired person but often very angry and or emotional, we also hear that the volume and pitch is deeper or seemingly ,, not normal for a human ,,. Also sometimes described like someone who is excited talking but there is not clear words presented.
- Wooing / Screaming - This is often either far off or very close to a witness and is described as similar to some of the sounds chimps, bonobos and gorilla produce. It can also be paired with knocking, whistles, grunts and ground thumps. Sound type specifically noted would be Whoops, Moan Howls, Guttural screaming, Bellowing and even peacock type sounds.
- Whistles - Loud, and sharp ( not bird like ) both short and long in duration.
- Knocks / Slaps / Ground thumps and Rock Clacks - Both loud and subdued and mostly at night, these sounds will also typically take place from more than a single location as it is believed based on the information to be a form of communication.
- Vehicle Shaking / Rocking - Hitting, tapping and moving of cars and trailers parked in more remote areas. It is believed at this point this is either test to see if their is people around or possibly just interest in the object itself.
- Metal Tapping / Banging - Sounds similar to a tin / steel can being beaten or drummed with a stick.
- Rock / Object throwing - This seems to most often happen in areas ( not frequented normally by human traffic ) where people setup camp or park for longer periods of time at night. It also happens to fisherman along river ways. We believe this is to possible way they push people out of an area or a way to get free food.
- Tree Destruction - waving, repeated cracking and dismantling of trees in a area near a remote camp ( not simply a tree falling ), in some cases the entire tree has been pulled up and positioned across a road way ( almost as if to block ), this is believed to be a form of intimidation or a display.
Mind sharing any personal experiences you've had?
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
I'm no Squatch Hunter, nor enthusiast; maybe a casual fan - but sometimes, things happens in the woods and you just are left scratching your head or possibly holding onto that weapon of choice during hunting season a little tighter. After reading some of the descriptions in the past, and seeing how consistently many experience by others are described very similar in nature, I can't help but wonder if there's a few out there.
Hunting along a hillside, dropping down towards a riverbed - chasing deer, I've had huge river rocks thrown towards me.
During a hunting trip, sleeping in the bed of my truck with the canopy for shelter, I've felt the truck rock, heard something brushing up against it - the .45 moved a little closure to me that night.
It's been a while now - but I remember these times pretty well - one reason my heads stays on a swivel when I'm out the woods alone -
But the outdoors keeps calling and I keep answering....maybe someday I'll meet Mr. Squatch
Thank you for giving mention to these types of events and for holding a stance on the subject that does not assume one way or the other.
I would be interested in hearing the details of those instances.
I would like to mention that these events as a majority are completely explainable in most instances and are not Sasquatch related. I will also state there is a record going back hundreds of years that shows that some of the cases just don't fit the bill of other wildlife or human activity.
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 11:55:45 AM
Hello everyone, I am a sasquatch report investigator based in western WA state ( also not to bad of a deer hunter either :) ).
I have been reading here for a fair length of time and I have found that there are members and friends of members here that have had strange encounters while investing in many of the pursuits we discuss here.
This topic is not a a place to debate, trash or harass folks who want to discuss events or experiences thet have taken place. If joking, wasting peoples time and running the subject it's comedy course is desired please take it to another thread. The subject and some individuals involved certainly deserve some laughs but there is a select group of people who take the data side of this very seriously.
The motivation is simply to understand how these creatures survive and exist in our current state of ecology, killing one of these creatures is not an objective our group is invested in.
I hope to here both privately and within the thread about what you or someone you know has experienced. If you chose to reach out privately to me I want to make it clear that your information will remain private.
Sasquatch behavior is something that is not well understood and it does expand beyond much more than yells, and banging on trees.
Noted strange happenings we hear about from areas of reports and track finds include the following.
- Gibberish talking sounds - almost like the speech patterns attempted by a hearing impaired person but often very angry and or emotional, we also hear that the volume and pitch is deeper or seemingly ,, not normal for a human ,,. Also sometimes described like someone who is excited talking but there is not clear words presented.
- Wooing / Screaming - This is often either far off or very close to a witness and is described as similar to some of the sounds chimps, bonobos and gorilla produce. It can also be paired with knocking, whistles, grunts and ground thumps. Sound type specifically noted would be Whoops, Moan Howls, Guttural screaming, Bellowing and even peacock type sounds.
- Whistles - Loud, and sharp ( not bird like ) both short and long in duration.
- Knocks / Slaps / Ground thumps and Rock Clacks - Both loud and subdued and mostly at night, these sounds will also typically take place from more than a single location as it is believed based on the information to be a form of communication.
- Vehicle Shaking / Rocking - Hitting, tapping and moving of cars and trailers parked in more remote areas. It is believed at this point this is either test to see if their is people around or possibly just interest in the object itself.
- Metal Tapping / Banging - Sounds similar to a tin / steel can being beaten or drummed with a stick.
- Rock / Object throwing - This seems to most often happen in areas ( not frequented normally by human traffic ) where people setup camp or park for longer periods of time at night. It also happens to fisherman along river ways. We believe this is to possible way they push people out of an area or a way to get free food.
- Tree Destruction - waving, repeated cracking and dismantling of trees in a area near a remote camp ( not simply a tree falling ), in some cases the entire tree has been pulled up and positioned across a road way ( almost as if to block ), this is believed to be a form of intimidation or a display.
Mind sharing any personal experiences you've had?
I certainly will as this thread moves forward, some of the events I would like to touch on are a bit long winded as I have photos and audio in conjunction.
Some time in the coming week I will share some of my information here.
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 12:00:20 PM
Saw a video of a guy on Facebook that has a head of Bigfoot, also claimed to have a full body of one. His dad shot them both in 1953.
I have glanced at the story/videos and I can say that it is for a fact completely false.
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 11, 2018, 12:41:43 PM
Some great stories in there in the beginning. :tup:
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
I know you know the other thread has morphed into something else tha the original intent but if you read it from the beginning you can decipher the stories and when the transition occurred.
Some great stories in there in the beginning. :tup:
There has been several threads on here, is there a way you could post the link to this particular thread ?
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 11, 2018, 01:03:08 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2018, 02:52:52 PM
Post by: Mudman on April 11, 2018, 03:40:59 PM
Post by: B4noon on April 11, 2018, 04:03:05 PM
Post by: luckyman on April 11, 2018, 04:08:07 PM
Post by: W_Ellison2011 on April 11, 2018, 04:17:52 PM
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 05:07:22 PM
Lets say I find one and shoot it so I can have actual proof. Is WDFW going to fine me and send me to jail or am I going to get a reward? Just wondering. It's good info to have!
Skamania county had a ordnance that states it is illegal to chase, harass or harm a Sasquatch, you would also pay a fine and possibly face jail time.
It sounds silly but it is a real law. ( I have not reviewed if the law is still in standing )
There maybe a legal work around for this issue though as there has not yet been a type specimen that can serve as a reference example for the species.
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 05:08:06 PM
Lets say I find one and shoot it so I can have actual proof. Is WDFW going to fine me and send me to jail or am I going to get a reward? Just wondering. It's good info to have!
My bad here, wrong quote entry.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on April 11, 2018, 05:08:25 PM
Iv'e followed tracks both in snow and mud at different places. I heard the Gibberish up close and personal once, like right behind me. :yike:
I'd say you're a luckyman. :chuckle:
Post by: NathanFooter on April 11, 2018, 05:12:26 PM
Iv'e followed tracks both in snow and mud at different places. I heard the Gibberish up close and personal once, like right behind me. :yike:
Please check your PM Folder. Thanks
Post by: Curly on April 11, 2018, 05:24:06 PM
I've had large rocks thrown towards me. They were too large for a person to be throwing. So, I'm a believer. I sure wish I could see one.
Post by: Jpmiller on April 12, 2018, 12:35:30 PM
Post by: Whitenuckles on April 12, 2018, 08:29:28 PM
About 9 years ago my brother and I decided to do a high buck hunt. It took us a day and a half to reach our destination just out of devil's park. We got there the day before season and went for a little scouting trip. About an hour before dark we spotted a group of deer. We closed the distance to about 100-120 yards. While glassing the bucks we noticed a figure standing not 15 feet from the deer. It was next to a group of trees and not moving, but definitely not natural. After a few seconds we both assumed what it might be. After 15-20 min it didnt move or shake at all. We thought our eyes were plaaying tricks. We decided to walk strait at it. As soon a we got half way to it, it walked off.
Judge my story as you will. But 2 of us saw it. I know what I saw, and I get hell for my story all the time. Most might think it would be cool to see one. We were scared as hell all night and left for home as soon as the sun came up.
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 12, 2018, 09:00:20 PM
Post by: Pegasus on April 12, 2018, 09:31:47 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on April 12, 2018, 09:39:43 PM
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Post by: NathanFooter on April 15, 2018, 12:06:35 PM
This stretch has had many reports over the years ( even from forestry service ), the pattern so far seems to suggest that the sasquatch spend most of the warmer months at or above 2400 Ft and then drop down to as low as cover and security will allow.
Post by: lord grizzly on April 15, 2018, 12:13:20 PM
Post by: NathanFooter on April 15, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
Some interesting stories and a fun thing to believe in. But really I think at this point in history it’s totally debunked. There’s literally thousands of trail cams in the woods and has been for a long time now. Simple law of averages would say pics of one would at least keep up in some proportion to sightings.
There are a few trail camera photos of what are likely Sasquatch ( based on size and limb ratios ), I personally know of a photo that has not been published as the owner does not want to receive negative attention.
I am aware of at least 3 other photos/videos that are not public and I have heard of a few that are rumored to be included on a few upcoming documentaries in the works.
It also comes down to the fact that a photo does not hold much weight anymore as things can be fabricated, this is why a few people do not share as they know that folks will just assume that they are making it all up. If I had ownership of a photo of sasquatch and it was posted in this forum I would likely receive dozens of posts stating that the photo is fake because bigfoot is not real.
High resolution thermal camera footage is the only way that we can give an illustration of a true living creature that could pass any degree of scientific scrutiny.
Post by: lord grizzly on April 15, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
Post by: runamuk on April 15, 2018, 01:52:50 PM
Post by: NathanFooter on April 15, 2018, 02:32:14 PM
I’m not sure I understand what the trail cam pic of the owl proves other than my point. I viable breeding population of animals would be showing up with as much surveillance as there exists I the last 2 decades in its habitat. Still, fun campfire stories
It is just an example of something on camera that could potentially be a sasquatch or an owl or an other known critter. It was not intended to represent a ,, real bigfoot ,, photo. In this case there is just not enough information to say what exactly is on camera, it is entirely up to the viewers interpretation.
Some folks do have great photos but do not post or share with the public because people will interpret what they view is the truth and more often than not the determination is that it is a hoax on the witness or the witness is hoaxing or it is some other animal.
Consider yourself in this position: You have a great photo of a sasquatch on camera, are you ready to post a photo and take ownership of the repercussions ?
My statement is that they do get detected in these formats ( trail camera/plotwatcher ) but the few truly good photos do not reach the public eye for examination for a number of reasons.
Post by: lord grizzly on April 15, 2018, 02:38:11 PM
Post by: NathanFooter on April 15, 2018, 03:03:03 PM
Myself in that situation of possessing an undeniable photo of a big foot.i sell it to the highest bidder. And so would most.
So it would be fair to say that you would remove yourself from that situation of owning the reputation behind the photo ?
If this is the case a third party looking at the photo is already going to discount the information as "shady" and therefore gaining no traction in the scientific sense.
If you are suggesting that you would put your name and character behind the photo with the intention of collecting an attributed value then it is also discounted by the public as a con or hoax. Why ? - because there is already a stigma and now someone was making money on it.
Either way people don't give credit as they lean on the side of a perceived sure bet and or an assumption based out of ignorance. This unfortunately is where we as humans get in our own way of understanding the reality of a situation or event. :bash:
Post by: lord grizzly on April 15, 2018, 04:52:43 PM
Post by: Dan-o on April 15, 2018, 04:58:48 PM
IMO your argument is nonsense. If people had good pics they'd post them.
Besides,many of those trail cams out there have video mode. And still no clear pics or video.
To argue that people don't share is nonsense. I guarantee if I ever got good Biggie video I would share it.
I get deer, elk, bear, cougar, coyote, bobcat, etc. I get good, irrefutable video.
Lots of unexplained things happen. That don't make it bigfoot.
Post by: NathanFooter on April 15, 2018, 05:11:02 PM
Pick up a rifle while your looking though, usually great elk country
We can agree on this much. ;)
Post by: runamuk on April 15, 2018, 05:34:24 PM
Post by: Dan-o on April 15, 2018, 05:46:15 PM
Post by: Rob on April 15, 2018, 08:45:14 PM
Post by: NathanFooter on April 17, 2018, 09:21:10 AM
I wont share pics with the general public. If I had pics of a presumed "foot" chances are I would not share. If I ever kill something hunting, probably wont share that either. I get all sorts of odd junk on my trail cam.
If such pictures are obtained they should be shared at the very least with a serious research group ( not to be shared with the public ) that is actively working on documentation of the species.
There is good reason to believe the overall population of these creatures is not doing so well.
Humans have a habit of going into untouched areas seeking new resources that through harvest completely change the landscape and as a result create negative effects on the species inhabiting the region.
There may come a time that if we do not acknowledge their position in wild territories we may drive them to the point of extinction.