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Title: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: bearpaw on April 17, 2018, 04:21:01 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/apr1618a/

White-tailed deer: Hunters will be allowed to take antlerless white-tailed deer in game management units 101-121 in northeast Washington. Special permits will be available to seniors and hunters using modern firearms, while other hunters can take antlerless deer during general hunting seasons.

An open general season whitetail antlerless hunt will wipe out our herds!  :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Timberstalker on April 17, 2018, 04:24:25 PM
So they are letting archery and muzzy kill does, during general.
That's how I read that.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: bearpaw on April 17, 2018, 04:26:17 PM
So they are letting archery and muzzy kill does, during general.
That's how I read that.

I sure wished it said that. Two years ago after the winter kill they made a clerical error, even though a retraction was printed, all the wardens allowed hunters to possess does.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Alchase on April 17, 2018, 04:26:52 PM
Sounds like they did not learn their lesson from the "Methow Meat Hunt" that took place about 10 years ago that defistated the herd.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: trophyhunt on April 17, 2018, 04:27:38 PM
That just doesn't make good sense at all, wow.  What would their justification be for this, damage claims???
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: jagermiester on April 17, 2018, 04:32:49 PM
What are they thinking?
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: teanawayslayer on April 17, 2018, 05:30:42 PM
What are they thinking?
obviously there not as usuall.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: lewy on April 17, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
I honestly think the state is trying to rid Washington of ungulates
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on April 17, 2018, 05:44:10 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/apr1618a/

White-tailed deer: Hunters will be allowed to take antlerless white-tailed deer in game management units 101-121 in northeast Washington. Special permits will be available to seniors and hunters using modern firearms, while other hunters can take antlerless deer during general hunting seasons.

An open general season whitetail antlerless hunt will wipe out our herds!  :bash: :bash: :bash:


So they are letting archery and muzzy kill does, during general.
That's how I read that.

It looks like modern hunters will be limited to special permits for antlerless, so if seniors and hunters using modern firearms are the ones that will be limited to permit opportunities, who exactly are the "other hunters" then???

It reads to me that these "other hunters" will be using something other than a modern firearm, so they will in effect have a general, either sex season during the times they can hunt without needing a special permit.

Otherwise why would there be any need for any special permits at all? 
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on April 17, 2018, 05:48:49 PM
So they are letting archery and muzzy kill does, during general.
That's how I read that.

I sure wished it said that. Two years ago after the winter kill they made a clerical error, even though a retraction was printed, all the wardens allowed hunters to possess does.

I think it does indeed say that.  But until the actual regs are available to confirm one way or another, maybe an inquiry would be in order to voice your concerns.

Especially since apparently there was an error in the past that didn't get caught and corrected in a timely manner, get ahead of it now so there is no need to try and correct it after the fact.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Bob33 on April 17, 2018, 05:49:46 PM
I believe this must be incorrectly worded. It's ambiguous. I'd contact the Wildlife department of WDFW to get clarification.

Two years in a row, I found errors in late season dates for a second deer permit in Western Washington and got them changed before publication.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Ironhead on April 17, 2018, 06:44:50 PM
I honestly think the state is trying to rid Washington of ungulates
They need to remove ungulates to make room for all the wolves! ;)
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: smalldog on April 17, 2018, 07:09:45 PM
They are considering giving the does back in areas 101-121 for Archery again.  They took the does away from Archery because of the fires and now it looks like they may give it back to the way it was.  Its a type error and is meant on for the Archers.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: bobcat on April 17, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
The proposed seasons have been available since sometime in January. This shouldn't be a surprise. But it is in fact only for the archery and muzzleloader seasons, not modern. And, disabled hunters and youth hunters get 4 days to take antlerless whitetail during the general season. Everything you see in the proposal linked below was made official this past weekend.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-415-020.pdf
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on April 17, 2018, 07:46:25 PM
My guess is that they're treating it like 454 to reduce road kill.

That being said, it's ironic that some of these units were 4pt minimums just a few years back. :bash:
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Bob33 on April 17, 2018, 07:49:35 PM
The proposed seasons have been available since sometime in January. This shouldn't be a surprise. But it is in fact only for the archery and muzzleloader seasons, not modern. And, disabled hunters and youth hunters get 4 days to take antlerless whitetail during the general season. Everything you see in the proposal linked below was made official this past weekend.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-415-020.pdf
The surprise is in the wording of the press release.  It's not entirely true that "other hunters can take antlerless deer during general hunting seasons."
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Timberstalker on April 17, 2018, 07:50:47 PM
The proposed seasons have been available since sometime in January. This shouldn't be a surprise. But it is in fact only for the archery and muzzleloader seasons, not modern. And, disabled hunters and youth hunters get 4 days to take antlerless whitetail during the general season. Everything you see in the proposal linked below was made official this past weekend.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-415-020.pdf
The surprise is in the wording of the press release.  It's not entirely true that "other hunters can take antlerless deer during general hunting seasons."

Looks like someone understood the press release correctly.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: cem3434 on April 17, 2018, 08:03:10 PM
Looks like I'm switching from modern this year. :bash:
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: bearpaw on April 17, 2018, 08:12:07 PM
The proposed seasons have been available since sometime in January. This shouldn't be a surprise. But it is in fact only for the archery and muzzleloader seasons, not modern. And, disabled hunters and youth hunters get 4 days to take antlerless whitetail during the general season. Everything you see in the proposal linked below was made official this past weekend.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-415-020.pdf
The surprise is in the wording of the press release.  It's not entirely true that "other hunters can take antlerless deer during general hunting seasons."

I sent a message to WDFW!
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: dscubame on April 17, 2018, 08:12:58 PM
Anterless opportunities are abundant.  No big deal here just alot of negative nannies always looking for a reason to complain.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: bobcat on April 17, 2018, 08:17:52 PM
The proposed seasons have been available since sometime in January. This shouldn't be a surprise. But it is in fact only for the archery and muzzleloader seasons, not modern. And, disabled hunters and youth hunters get 4 days to take antlerless whitetail during the general season. Everything you see in the proposal linked below was made official this past weekend.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-415-020.pdf
The surprise is in the wording of the press release.  It's not entirely true that "other hunters can take antlerless deer during general hunting seasons."

Yes, I know. Obviously the press release was worded incorrectly. To know what it really means you need to look at the proposals, or by the end of this week, look at the actual regulations that will be posted online.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Bob33 on April 17, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
Proofreading, the lost art.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: hunter399 on April 17, 2018, 08:27:39 PM
I don't think mistake ,anything to make more money ,intell wildlife populations are so bad that nobody in there right mind will buy a tag. :twocents:
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: Bigshooter on April 17, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
The proposed seasons have been available since sometime in January. This shouldn't be a surprise. But it is in fact only for the archery and muzzleloader seasons, not modern. And, disabled hunters and youth hunters get 4 days to take antlerless whitetail during the general season. Everything you see in the proposal linked below was made official this past weekend.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/wac/220-415-020.pdf

People are smart enough to get on this forum and post but to damn stupid to look this up.
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: dscubame on April 17, 2018, 09:00:50 PM
Wow
Title: Re: WDFW Season Setting Mistake? I sure hope this is a clerical error?
Post by: bearpaw on April 18, 2018, 09:52:02 AM
I got clarification today:

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Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.

The new regulations will be available on line April 19.

As to your questions, the proposed rule will allow, during general season GMU 101-121, archery and muzzleloader to harvest any white-tailed deer.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

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