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Title: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: PA BEN on May 10, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
http://www.capitalpress.com/Livestock/20180509/state-says-wolf-recovery-plan-working-halfway-to-delisting
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: KFhunter on May 10, 2018, 05:51:26 PM
 :whoo: :whoo: :whoo:

Half way there folks!













wolf plan  :pee:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: Ridgeratt on May 10, 2018, 06:27:39 PM
Isn't that nice!! Sort of gives you a warm Fuzzy feeling.  :chuckle:


Sort of like this  :pee: into the wind you just get your knees wet!!!
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on May 10, 2018, 06:31:19 PM
They sure have RUINED the area around you guys!! :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: hunter399 on May 10, 2018, 07:18:27 PM
Wdfw wolves ,don't  :pee: down my back,and try to tell me it's raining.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: wolfbait on May 11, 2018, 10:12:52 AM
Hardly doubt this bit of WDF&Wolves calf slobber surprises anyone, the wolf introduction and management of WA has been one huge lie from the beginning, This is just more of the same WDFW swamp.

The only wolf control WA will receive will have to come from the public silently getting involved.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2018, 11:09:27 AM
Halfway there? Aren't there something like 20 packs now? We should be way closer than halfway. Not that it matters. If the WDFW ever delists, that's when their friends will start the court battles.  :bash:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 11, 2018, 11:49:44 AM
What a joke!! The legislature has instructed them to translocate wolves. Hell they can't even afford to wipe their you know what let alone transplant wolves. This whole subject turns my stomach.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: boneaddict on May 11, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
 :puke:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: huntnphool on May 11, 2018, 12:49:19 PM
 I'm shocked how many huntwa members are okay with the number of wolves we have now, and dumbfounded how they can be okay with being halfway there and looking forward to twice as many as the current situation.....SMH.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: WSU on May 11, 2018, 12:51:13 PM
Maybe halfway really means only half the state has lots and lots of wolves.   We need to cover the other half prior to being all the way there?
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2018, 12:52:39 PM
I'm shocked how many huntwa members are okay with the number of wolves we have now, and dumbfounded how they can be okay with being halfway there and looking forward to twice as many as the current situation.....SMH.

Have no fear. We already have twice as many as they're telling us we have.  :bash:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: KFhunter on May 11, 2018, 01:00:57 PM
I'm shocked how many huntwa members are okay with the number of wolves we have now, and dumbfounded how they can be okay with being halfway there and looking forward to twice as many as the current situation.....SMH.

Well if you're talking about me with my  :whoo:  that was total sarcasm
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: chiwawadan on May 11, 2018, 01:17:35 PM
I'm convinced this thread needs to continue its focus on the below emoji.
 
:pee:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: KFhunter on May 11, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
🐺 :pee:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: eastsidemallard74 on May 11, 2018, 02:43:28 PM
Working in what sense i wonder, depleting harvests? Collecting money for un fillable tags? Wa St. gov in a whole is such a joke.......... :twocents:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 11, 2018, 03:51:46 PM
Wiping out the moose herd just like they did in every other state!  :bash:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: Mudman on May 11, 2018, 04:31:42 PM
Its been made clear the only way management of wolves will occur is hunting trapping and all other means.  Its a choice every man/woman makes on their own.  Trust the Lawmakers or trust your family friends neighbors and every other person with a brain.  Sad it comes to that.  Years ago this was the livelihood of most all people in USA and ir was handled.  When the Caribou, moose, elk, deer # crashed what will they blame it on?? Us....
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 11, 2018, 04:36:05 PM
C'mon guys and gals, WDFW says there are only 122 wolves in the state.  We need to trust them with the well being of all of our wildlife.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 11, 2018, 08:59:30 PM
C'mon guys and gals, WDFW says there are only 122 wolves in the state.  We need to trust them with the well being of all of our wildlife.

WDFW PLEASE WAKE UP & ACT LIKE A RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT AGENCY!

I'd be willing to bet you can multiply the WDFW wolf count by 2 or 3, at least. But just for fun lets do the wolf math using federal government wolf data and the WDFW wolf count. The figures come from YNP where the primary diet is elk (22 per year).

122 wolves X 22 ungulates = 2684 ungulates (on a primarily elk diet)
Wait till we have 500 to 1000 wolves!




https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/gray-wolves-impact-elk
Quote
- Kill rates by wolves in winter are 22 ungulates per wolf per year – higher than the 12 ungulates per wolf rate predicted in the ESA.

 - Since 2000, wolves have caused 45 percent of known deaths and 75 percent of predation deaths (not including human harvests) of radio-collared female elk on the northern range. By comparison, human harvest and winter-kill accounted for 30 percent and 8 percent respectively of the known deaths.

 - The average annual harvest of 1,372 elk during the Gardiner late elk hunts from 1995 to 2004 was higher than the long-term average of 1,014 elk during 1976-1994. Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks has reduced antlerless permits by 51 percent from 2,882 to 1,400 during 2000-2004 and recently proposed 100 permits for 2006 – a 96 percent decrease from the 2,660 permits issued in 1995.

Oh goody, guess what's in store for Washington hunters?  (see underlined text above)
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 11, 2018, 09:17:10 PM
 :tree1: :pee:



Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: Bango skank on May 11, 2018, 09:24:26 PM
Its working alright.  Wolves all over, at least in the northeast corner.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: nwwanderer on May 11, 2018, 10:00:26 PM
Thanks Bango, perfect example.  Running the numbers puts the department in a death spiral, WDFW must realize they are bleeding badly and they are only half way to a 'goal'.  What does a $100 million department look like with 400 employees?
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 11, 2018, 10:55:48 PM
:tree1: :pee:



Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right!  :tup:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 11, 2018, 10:57:10 PM
Its working alright.  Wolves all over, at least in the northeast corner.

That's just a big black tick after that moose!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: wolfbait on May 12, 2018, 09:22:34 PM
:tree1: :pee:



Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right!  :tup:

We tried to tell y'all,...Not that anything said on this forum about wolves etc. promotes any form of caring for the ungulates from WDF&Wolves, as they are in their own agenda driven bubble.


In Washington, Some Mourn The Arrival Of New Fish and Game Director

http://tomremington.com/?s=Director+Unsworth



FWS Biologist Says Wolf Numbers Underestimated Mech Says 3,000 Wolves Exist in ID, MT & WY


http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No.28%20May%202008%20FWS%20Biologist%20Says%20Wolf%20Numbers%20Underestimated%20Mech%20Says%203,000%20Wolves%20Exist%20in%20ID,%20MT%20&%20WY.pdf



What They Didn’t Tell You About Wolf Recovery

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%2026%20January%202008%20full%20report.pdf



Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: wolfbait on May 12, 2018, 09:31:55 PM
I'm shocked how many huntwa members are okay with the number of wolves we have now, and dumbfounded how they can be okay with being halfway there and looking forward to twice as many as the current situation.....SMH.


Why don't you set up on of those poll thingy's so we can see how many people think where we are with wolves and the wolf plan is ok?


Remember according to WDFW wolves started "migrating" to WA in 2002.


FWS Biologist Says Wolf Numbers Underestimated Mech Says 3,000 Wolves Exist in ID, MT & WY


http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No.28%20May%202008%20FWS%20Biologist%20Says%20Wolf%20Numbers%20Underestimated%20Mech%20Says%203,000%20Wolves%20Exist%20in%20ID,%20MT%20&%20WY.pdf

Little pasted shocked?









Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 12, 2018, 10:29:20 PM
:tree1: :pee:



Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right!  :tup:

Was he was even worse than you figured?
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: nwwanderer on May 13, 2018, 05:03:44 AM
Time to include WA in those numbers.  That was 2008, what is the number today?
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 13, 2018, 10:56:14 PM
:tree1: :pee:



Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right!  :tup:

Was he was even worse than you figured?


Yes, yes, yes !!!
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 14, 2018, 03:30:16 AM
I of course was being facetious.  Where I moose hunted in 2016 there "were" no wolves.  Yeah right.
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 14, 2018, 11:49:31 PM
I seen a wolf today in 121. :bash:
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 15, 2018, 05:22:25 AM
Was it alone?
Title: Re: State says wolf recovery plan working
Post by: bearpaw on May 16, 2018, 10:15:52 AM
Was it alone?

We were in heavy timber, we only saw the one, but there could have been others out of sight!  :dunno:
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