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Title: Report on longbeards from Colville
Post by: giddyhitch on March 13, 2009, 07:54:29 AM: Talked with my buddy over there and he said he has been seeing about two dzn turkeys coming out of the woods every morning across from his field. Mmmmmmm I can taste the smoked turkey :drool:
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Post by: SpokaneSlayer on March 13, 2009, 07:55:29 AM: Is that the place where we are going?
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Post by: giddyhitch on March 13, 2009, 07:57:42 AM: Yes it is and I can give you some more good news as well :tung:
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 13, 2009, 02:56:52 PM: 2 dozen..... thats all ? He must live on the wrong side of the tracks :IBCOOL:
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Post by: giddyhitch on March 13, 2009, 03:42:01 PM: Just a figure of speech. Didn't want to alarm anyone :yike: :chuckle:
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 13, 2009, 04:09:50 PM: No, saying there are only 2 dozen is what is alarming........considering the area !
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Post by: SpokaneSlayer on March 13, 2009, 04:15:11 PM: I'm sure there a lot more up there.
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Post by: Phantom Gobbler on March 13, 2009, 04:18:00 PM: My Experience is that in gerneral the further you go north of Colville, the fewer birds that are found. What have others experienced?

Also how is the bird population on the west side of Lake Roosevelt and north of the Colville Indian Population??
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 13, 2009, 05:44:08 PM: North of Coleville, just depends on what degree you set your compass. There are some that are good and some that arent.

I have been on the rez and its nutz !!! Havent been on the north side before
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Post by: yelp on March 13, 2009, 06:45:22 PM: North and East of Republic and Curlew is great and also east towards Tonasket from Republic has turkeys....some private mixed with public...I go up to Republic in May...I let it warm up...It doesn't get a lot of sun and the birds seem to turn on a little later in my opinion...There are lots of areas to try.
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Post by: BLKBEARKLR on March 13, 2009, 06:57:28 PM: How can you hunt on the Rez??

Thanks
Joe
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Post by: Diehard0123 on March 13, 2009, 06:58:02 PM: What's the snow like out near Collvile especially on the higher hills?
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 13, 2009, 08:20:52 PM: You Can NOT hunt turkeys on the Res if you are NOT an enrolled member of the tribe.
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Post by: BLKBEARKLR on March 13, 2009, 08:24:14 PM: Ok that is what I thought was just making sure that there was not something I was missing, I have seen quite a few birds there when driving through it. Thanks for the info

Joe
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Post by: hookr88 on March 13, 2009, 09:35:09 PM: Yesterday I talked to a guy who asked me for directions last year, said he was from Chewelah. Of course I asked about turkeys he said they were making a mess of his yard. I told him I could help with that. Anyways, yesterday he said he had about sixty in the yard and his shoes are a mess, when was I coming over? My son might have some fun on the youth weekend.
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Post by: yelp on March 13, 2009, 09:41:41 PM: I have talked with Tribal biologists a few years ago and I told them that they are missing an opportunity to allow turkey hunting via non tribal hunting permits. You can hunt waterfowl and upland birds in certain areas of the tribe..so the mechanism is already in place. They could actually make some $ if they allowed some spring hunting in certain areas. It wouldn't interfere with any tribal hunting seasons..I think it would be a win win. There are a lot of birds on the tribe and they are having some damage issues to crops.
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 13, 2009, 10:06:32 PM: Yelp, it all comes down to getting them off the big game management plan. Once that happens the tribes can allow them to be hunted under their small game rules as pheasant and quail ect are.
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Post by: yelp on March 14, 2009, 08:56:08 AM: Your right NWTFhunter but the tribal council makes it happen. I don't know why its in the big game list. The nontribal licenses allow the hunting for the most part non native wildlife (pheasants, quail , chukar and huns) ALso waterfowl...Turkey should be on that list in my mind. I told biologists they could sell tags for 50 -100 dollars and they could make some serious change for the tribe. I know of a lot of hunters who would pay to get an extra turkey in the spring. Many tribes that allow hunting, go the way of having to have tribal guides while on the reservation (Spring Bear hunts Quinault Tribe). That however seems to be pretty popular because the tribes have better control over hunters on the reservation..I would rather see them designate for example the Inchelium Unit as the harvest unit for turkeys and you buy a tag over the counter. Who knows right now In my opinion, the reservation is a big incubator and it is producing lots of wild turkeys who filter off the reservation to the north, west, south and east..back and forth across the Columbia River.
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Post by: Diehard0123 on March 14, 2009, 11:02:35 AM: Quote from: NWTFhunter on March 13, 2009, 08:20:52 PM
You Can NOT hunt turkeys on the Res if you are NOT an enrolled member of the tribe.

You can hunt on the Rez if you are on a guided hunt by one of the members of the tribe. You can see signs in the yards of the indians as you drive through the rez offering guided hunts.
Title: Re: Report on longbeards from Colville
Post by: NWTFhunter on March 14, 2009, 01:14:12 PM: You can NOT hunt TURKEYS on the reservations. They are listed in the big game management plan and No big game can be hunted on the reservations. You can hunt pheasant, quail, chuckar, grouse, ducks, geese. Did I forget any other small game animal ?

I dont know who told you that you can or what native said he would take you, but you are playing with fire. If a native takes you out and another files a complaint your in deep chit my friend.
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 14, 2009, 01:15:49 PM: Where is our friend from the Colville nation that posts here sometimes ?
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Post by: Turkeyman on March 14, 2009, 02:03:36 PM: Your right Yelp they would make some good money. They need to do it like they do in South Dakota.
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Post by: yelp on March 14, 2009, 02:07:55 PM: Diehard I assume you are talking about the Spokane Reservation? There were some signs years ago just north of Fort Spokane. I talked with the owners and they guide off of the reservation in Stevens county they are not allowed to guide on the tribal property...I think thier last name was Kiessler Or Kieffler? Something like that they had a fish and hunting guide service. I think they lease land up by Fruitland somewhere.

NWTF hunter is right...you can't be guided by a member...I know quite a few guys that hunt all kinds of animals on the reservation with thier Tribal buddies...Its Illegal period. Unless the tribes change the rules currently its illegal.
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 14, 2009, 02:52:57 PM: Yelp, I know the signs the he and you are talking about.. When I saw them the first time I hit the brakes and was like WTH ? So I went and talked to him also. Found out it was off the reservation.

I was just kinda waiting to see how long he would argue and think he could hunt on the res. for turkey hehe.
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Post by: turkey slayer on March 15, 2009, 10:54:07 AM: Yelp, their names are Keiffer but last I herd they ar'nt guideing anymore
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Post by: @RCHER on March 16, 2009, 04:19:30 PM: Quote from: NWTFhunter on March 14, 2009, 01:14:12 PM
...No big game can be hunted on the reservations.

The only exception I'm aware of being the guided depredation bear hunts offered by the Quinault in co-op with WDFW.
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 18, 2009, 03:23:30 PM: That is very true Archer, I had forgotten about those bear hunts.
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Post by: Quimby on March 18, 2009, 09:38:15 PM: Hey everyone, these are some great reports. I am new to turkey hunting and I am excited to finally go this year. I am taking my 9 year old boy as well. My plan is to camp at Curlew State Park and hit the area around there. I am not asking for anyone to give up their secrets or spots, but if you have some advice I would love to hear it.

A couple of other questions I have as well:

Is it worth heading over for opening weekend or should I wait a while?

How does one get onto to private land? Is it a case by case basis with the landowner or is there a resource I can contact that has a list of owner opening up their land?

My in-laws live in Tonasket, but I am not sure how the hunting is around there. I have been reading a lot of how it seems to be better in Eastern Ferry and Stevens county, so I figured Curlew State Park would be somewhat central to the area. Is this a good spot or should I stay elsewhere?

Thanks for any advice that is given.
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Post by: NWTFhunter on March 19, 2009, 12:09:59 AM: Quimby, I have never hunted around there...... but in order to get permission on private land.......Its either knowing someone, or knocking on doors, or hanging out at the local barber shop burger joint with an open ear ! Making that contact is the biggie !

I have just landed 2 huge spots in the Colville area......... Some say it who you know, I say its who your dating...LOL.
Title: Re: Report on longbeards from Colville
Post by: Diehard0123 on March 19, 2009, 07:04:35 AM: Quote from: yelp on March 14, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Diehard I assume you are talking about the Spokane Reservation? There were some signs years ago just north of Fort Spokane. I talked with the owners and they guide off of the reservation in Stevens county they are not allowed to guide on the tribal property...I think thier last name was Kiessler Or Kieffler? Something like that they had a fish and hunting guide service. I think they lease land up by Fruitland somewhere.

NWTF hunter is right...you can't be guided by a member...I know quite a few guys that hunt all kinds of animals on the reservation with thier Tribal buddies...Its Illegal period. Unless the tribes change the rules currently its illegal.
Ya those are the ones I was talking about. I have never been interested in contacting them I just saw the signs and a few guys in the yard that were native. made me think that they were offering hunts on the res.
Title: Re: Report on longbeards from Colville
Post by: Quimby on March 19, 2009, 07:18:03 PM: I figured as much with landing a great contact. Unfortunately I am never really over there much, so I may have to do some door belling when I get over there.
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Post by: yelp on March 19, 2009, 07:50:55 PM: Quimby...Go late April...Republic and Curlew turn on later...lot of snow this year...they will be down on private land. :twocents: