Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: ADAMS on May 20, 2018, 06:49:27 AM
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I just bought one of these for my 14 year old son (his first gun) from Buds. I purchased the 12 gauge model.
(https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/hiRes/4463_1.jpg)
I've never seen one of these in a store and have only seen a few reviews but I'm wondering if anyone here who has fondled one or owns one has an opinion.
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It is a copy of the old H&R and will kick hard with hi brass.If you put on a recoil boot it will help.I understand it will use Winchester chokes,too.You need to pattern it at 30 yrds.Shimming and shaving the stock to action fit will be easy and necessary as this is made in the PRC with no proofing or regulating.The old H&R needed to be regulated,too.I bought a couple at yard sales for $5 to $10 and they were all full choke and were way off.One 16 ga. shot 2 ft to the right and almost that low at 30 yrds.I regulated it and killed rabbits and squirrels better than a 20ga and less recoil than a 12.Your son should learn to put 2 shells between his off hand fingers for fast reloads.Once he is proficent with reloadind he will have little disadvantage to a guy using a pump.pcal
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@pcal: My first gun was an H&R Pardner in 20 gauge with a full choke. I wish I still had it. (kicking myself)
I've actually read and watched reviews that indicate that the fit on the Chinese made 301 is surprisingly good, better than the H&R / NEF models but that the finish is kind of crappy. Hopefully the one that arrives will be well fitted. I also understand that the 301s print low.
I currently have an NEF in .410 with a full choke. It's my favorite rabbit gun. I recall though that when I bought it, I had them bring another out because of noticeably terrible alignment between the barrel and receiver.
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I have the same gun. I tought my sons how to grouse hunt with it.
Mine shoots fine.
And when he gets older and moves on to a nicer gun, break loaders make awesome wall mounts!!
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One of the cool things you can do is make cut shot shells for use in a break action. They work best the more open the choke.
This you tube channel shows all manner of cool improvised shot shells.
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I would never take a new shotgun hunting without patterning it.If it doesn't put the pellets in the center of the circle it needs to be regulated.Regulating a shotgun requires you to move the center of the pattern by shaving the rear stock where it fits the reciever.Experts will use great care on fine shotguns and have to work with the shooter to fit THAT individual.I am not an expert nor claim great skills but I have worked on my own guns (remington 870,mossburg 500,bereta pump,lots of old singles)to make them hit where pointed.Pattern the gun on butchers paper with a 30 inch circle at 10 yards and when centered,move it out to 20 yrds.Some will then move it out to 30 but I find it's usually not off enough after getting it good at 20 to warrant that much fine tuning.Learning to wing shoot with an unregulated shotgun is impossible so get that done before wasting ammo and frustation.pcal
