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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: ljsommer on May 23, 2018, 06:34:09 AM
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If you carry in the woods, where (on your person) do you carry? I haven't had a lot of experience with this, but I was wondering if a belt OWB carry position would get snagged on stuff, and at least with my setup the idea of putting in multi-mile trips with a heavy sidearm on my hip seems annoying.
I know some backpacks have handy little spots for sidearms which shifts the weight a bit. Post with your experiences!
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cross draw
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Look at a Diamond D chest holster. They are nice. Especially when carrying a bigger gun (revolver etc). Works great with a backpack on. I do carry on my hip often times. I prefer a crossdraw when packing on my hip (Easy to sit down with pistol on). The only holster style I hate when I'm in the thick woods, is thigh rigs they catch on everything.
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This is my next purchase related to carrying.
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I've got a man gear alaska chest rig. I love it.
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Paddle holster for me or if I’m running a pack with a decent waist belt it goes on that, never leave home without it, it saved my ass last spring
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I have been wanting one of the chest harness. Always carry
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Can you run a chest holster rig with a bino harness? Thats always been my concern with those setups
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Personally I would NEVER carry a sidearm on/in a pack or a pack harness. Too many ways to go FUBAR. Carry it on your belt or somehow attached to your person. I'm interested in the chest harness idea and plan to look into it. Carrying on the waste is always a problem with a pack but certainly doable. I have tried a leg holster that puts the gun below the packstrap but just didn't feel right flopping around my leg.
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i always have my pack on so my sidearm is on the waist belt. I used to carry just on belt of pants but that was annoying when I had my pack's waist belt locked down
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This is what I use, and I love it. Doesn't interfere with my bino's or pack and it's always right there and easy to draw out if needed.
https://gunfightersinc.com/products/kenai-chest-holster/
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I carry my revolver in the Diamond D chest holster. Easy to reach, and I like it better than hip/leg holsters I used in the past.
I only carry my pistol for archery, muzzleloader, and for scouting trips. I don't carry my pistol for modern firearm. For modern firearm I wear my binocular harness for my larger Nikon binoculars. For archery and muzzleloader I have a compartment on the hipbelt of my backpack that holds my smaller Vortex binoculars. These two setups work for my purposes.
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On my belt. If I'm wearing a pack that has a waist belt then I use a Safariland belt drop holster.
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Paddle holster for me or if I’m running a pack with a decent waist belt it goes on that, never leave home without it, it saved my ass last spring
Lewy, is there a story about "last spring" on here?
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Safariland molle coupler for an Uncle Mikes Kydex for G20 on backpack belt or Simply Rugged chest holster for the heavier stuff.
Otherwise, a simple Galco Cop Leather OWB or kydex paddle holster, if I don't have a backpack belt going over it for a smaller semi-auto.
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Paddle holster for me or if I’m running a pack with a decent waist belt it goes on that, never leave home without it, it saved my ass last spring
Lewy, is there a story about "last spring" on here?
:yeah:
Also, following. I have not found a system that is reasonably comfortable and secure. My EDC is a Beretta Nano which is magically low profile, so sometimes I get away with the hipbelt pocket of my Osprey pack. I'm thinking my next attempt will be a proper hipbelt holster.
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I carry two Bond Hand Cannons in a double shoulder rig.
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I'm using either a Sig P365 in a vedder IWB holster if I'm not going in too deep. (haven't got to try it out yet, still waiting for holster)
If I am going further out in the woods I have a Gen 3 G20 in a safariiland drop holster with TRL1 HL light. This works well on bicycle, ATV or just hiking with a pack on but not so well in the pickup :chuckle:
With a little work on the belt loops it doesn't flop around on my leg anymore, but I'll probably change it to a low ride with leg strap so it'll flop around even less.
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Paddle holster for me or if I’m running a pack with a decent waist belt it goes on that, never leave home without it, it saved my ass last spring
I have a Blackhawk Serpa paddle holster I like quite a bit, but it slides around on my hunting pants material (even with a good thick leather belt).
I think that functionally a chest harness makes a lot of sense, but I was worried about it conflicting with my chest bino harness.
@KFhunter I'll be using a G20 as well.
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"I'll be using a G20 as well."
Check out the USGI M12 (IIRC) holsters. Safariland makes a lot of add-ons for that system, including shoulder harness.
Buy the holster surplus and save a bundle. It fits the G20 quite nicely.
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When hiking or scouting I carry ODB, with one of many holster options.
When wearing a pack, I carry crossdraw in a Serpa II. All my packs have Serpa IIs mounted or have quickdisconnects.
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I wear the chest rig with a binocular harness at times. It's a pain if I'm using larger binoculars. If I'm using my smaller ones it works out just fine.
Really gonna have to put both of em on before you'll know if they work or not for you, I can see some people not liking both in their chest.
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Alien gear Mollie holster clips right on to my Kifaru waist belt. Haven't used it yet but plan on using it this year and testing it out at home it seems to be the perfect route for me.
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I haven't put hands on one yet but if you use a bino pack or harness check out the razco holster. It sits right below the bino pack and attaches to it.
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HPG kit bag. Keeps your handgun secured and gives you space to keep license,radio, etc handy. I attach my binoculars to the straps and they don’t interfere with drawing the handgun.
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I have the gun fighters inc chest holster and I use it with a AGC bino harness. It works well and the grip of the pistol sticks out far enough for quick access. It does g t a bit bulky but it works. I haven’t used the Razco but I’m not sure I’d like the pistol that low.
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I always carry spray and sometimes a gun although the latter is more for the two legged animal problems.
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Paddle holster for me or if I’m running a pack with a decent waist belt it goes on that, never leave home without it, it saved my ass last spring
Lewy, is there a story about "last spring" on here?
:yeah:
Also, following. I have not found a system that is reasonably comfortable and secure. My EDC is a Beretta Nano which is magically low profile, so sometimes I get away with the hipbelt pocket of my Osprey pack. I'm thinking my next attempt will be a proper hipbelt holster.
Not on here, my friends and family know the story.
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This is what I use, and I love it. Doesn't interfere with my bino's or pack and it's always right there and easy to draw out if needed.
https://gunfightersinc.com/products/kenai-chest-holster/
Only way to carry. I have one and love it.
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I use a vedder light tuck IWB for everyday carry. translates perfectly to the woods - put many many miles on and don't know its there... They are very reasonable in price, comfortable, and they make one for just about every gun out there.
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I carry almost every time I’m out in the woods, especially in the spring while shed hunting. Lately I carry my Sig p320 on my hip with the factory holster. I don’t really have any complaints, or see a need to change anything. It’s fine in the comfort department and quick/easy to draw from.
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Ruger .357 in thigh holster. Ready for quick draw if needed.
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As an interesting follow-up to this, what are your thoughts on caliber? I had a long discussion with a friend about the effectiveness of a 9mm against a cougar or black bear (however unlikely), and he was of the mind that a 9mm, even with multiple shots just won't get the job done.
I had planned on ordering a G20 anyway but the conversation did push me to order it a bit sooner than I would've otherwise.
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cross draw since my bino case sits on my chest.
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Ruger .357 in thigh holster. Ready for quick draw if needed.
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On longer hikes does the drop thigh affect your gait or pace? I've got a Ruger blackhawk I've been trying to find a good carry for
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As an interesting follow-up to this, what are your thoughts on caliber? I had a long discussion with a friend about the effectiveness of a 9mm against a cougar or black bear (however unlikely), and he was of the mind that a 9mm, even with multiple shots just won't get the job done.
I had planned on ordering a G20 anyway but the conversation did push me to order it a bit sooner than I would've otherwise.
Police use them on 300 pound people every day, so they would likely work but you won't see many people recommend them. That said, the 9 mm is much better for multiple shot scenarios than a heavier recoil load and all of the advice is anecdotal at best. Current bullet technology and +P or +P+ loads really made a difference in the effectiveness.
I do believe bears are harder to stop quickly. Even vital shots take longer I believe, maybe due to their slower heart rate. For a bear, I would always use spray if it wasn't on top of me. 10-20 9mm rounds flying around the woods under a stressful situation isn't the safest thing if you have hunting buddies.
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As an interesting follow-up to this, what are your thoughts on caliber? I had a long discussion with a friend about the effectiveness of a 9mm against a cougar or black bear (however unlikely), and he was of the mind that a 9mm, even with multiple shots just won't get the job done.
I had planned on ordering a G20 anyway but the conversation did push me to order it a bit sooner than I would've otherwise.
Police use them on 300 pound people every day, so they would likely work but you won't see many people recommend them. That said, the 9 mm is much better for multiple shot scenarios than a heavier recoil load and all of the advice is anecdotal at best. Current bullet technology and +P or +P+ loads really made a difference in the effectiveness.
I do believe bears are harder to stop quickly. Even vital shots take longer I believe, maybe due to their slower heart rate. For a bear, I would always use spray if it wasn't on top of me. 10-20 9mm rounds flying around the woods under a stressful situation isn't the safest thing if you have hunting buddies.
I definitely agree with having spray around, but I just think back to all the interviews of bear attack survivors when they talk about using the spray and then the bear walking through it like nothing at all happened, and their gun was out of reach. Yikes. I'll take "both options", please. ;)
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This is my next purchase related to carrying.
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I carry a Glock 20 in my Gunfighter backpacking and mt biking and couldn't be happier with it; I forget its there.
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Ruger .357 in thigh holster. Ready for quick draw if needed.
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On longer hikes does the drop thigh affect your gait or pace? I've got a Ruger blackhawk I've been trying to find a good carry for
Not that I have noticed. That’s what I have in the holster “Blackhawk”. I’ve tried belt holster, shoulder holster and chest holster. I archery hunt only and with the shoulder and chest holster I have trouble carrying the gun and binos on my chest.
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I use a blackhawk holster on my belt for my pack . never enen know its there . i carry a px4 .45 with a decocker . never a saftey issue .
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I have a shoulder harness for my XD .45 from Camano Ridge Custom Leathers. It's very nice.
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As an interesting follow-up to this, what are your thoughts on caliber? I had a long discussion with a friend about the effectiveness of a 9mm against a cougar or black bear (however unlikely), and he was of the mind that a 9mm, even with multiple shots just won't get the job done.
I had planned on ordering a G20 anyway but the conversation did push me to order it a bit sooner than I would've otherwise.
I dont have an issue with the 9mm. It is effective. A Guide in Alaska put down a charging brown bear with his...
http://www.wideopenspaces.com/alaska-man-kills-charging-brown-bear-with-a-9mm-pistol/
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@C-Money
Oh wow that's a great article, thank you! While maybe not the perfect caliber for it, it looks like 9mm could certainly handle a cougar or black bear.
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@C-Money
Oh wow that's a great article, thank you! While maybe not the perfect caliber for it, it looks like 9mm could certainly handle a cougar or black bear.
just like when it comes to hunting it's all about shot placement :tup: if I was in grizzly country then no question I would get a glock 20 in 10mm.
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A few that I use quite a bit. See if you spot the theme...
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S&W 696 3" .44 Special on a sling pack with basic L-frame 3-slot holster. The 3 slot allows you to wear it like an in waistband booster, between the strap and your chest. Very low profile and does not flop at all. A lot of people discourage off body carry but I have look at this like a chest rig that just happens to hold water, trail cams, and bike repair stuff.
S&W 629 6.5" .44 mag and Hunter brand shoulder rig. Only >4" hunting legal of the three. I added the brass buckle at the bottom with some leather strands. It is stiff, attaches to front left belt loop, and keeps the whole thing pretty solid despite just one strap. Sits fairly vertically so my hand is at chin level before it clears leather, but not too bad to draw. Fits a number of 6.5" revolvers and they are very reasonably priced.
Ruger SBH 3.75" .44 mag in Simply Rugged Pancake with Chesty Puller option. Great quality, very adjustable.
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A few that I use quite a bit. See if you spot the theme...
Left to right:
S&W 696 3" .44 Special on a sling pack with basic L-frame 3-slot holster. The 3 slot allows you to wear it like an in waistband booster, between the strap and your chest. Very low profile and does not flop at all. A lot of people discourage off body carry but I have look at this like a chest rig that just happens to hold water, trail cams, and bike repair stuff.
S&W 629 6.5" .44 mag and Hunter brand shoulder rig. Only >4" hunting legal of the three. I added the brass buckle at the bottom with some leather strands. It is stiff, attaches to front left belt loop, and keeps the whole thing pretty solid despite just one strap. Sits fairly vertically so my hand is at chin level before it clears leather, but not too bad to draw. Fits a number of 6.5" revolvers and they are very reasonably priced.
Ruger SBH 3.75" .44 mag in Simply Rugged Pancake with Chesty Puller option. Great quality, very adjustable.
Revolves might be heavy but man oh man are they cool! Love the S&W 696, what a great hiking gun.
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Advancements in bullets and ammo have made many pistols far more effective than they once were!
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I have a couple thigh rigs Blackhawk and Fodus that I have tried while hunting/hiking. While great for CQB they hinder movement to much, especially over miles of hiking to use while hunting.
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I carry a Phalanx Stealth Operator holster and my Glock 21 Gen2 .45, it is light weight and rides tight to the body.
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My safariland belt drop. About $150 new. Found mine on eBay in new condition for $15.
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That's just a low ride duty holster thats outdated with poor retention, would work well for woods carry though :tup: but it's not a drop holster.
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Not a drop leg. Some of the low ride rigs are advertised with 1-2.5" drop. I appreciate you taking time out of your weekend to *censored* talk my gear though.
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glad I could help a guy out :tup:
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Anyway this topic always comes up a few times a year.I think you all wrong. :chuckle:
Anything your sidearm can do ,my rifle does ten times better. :chuckle:
When I do wear sidearm which has not been in years it's a 357 blackhawk.
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I archery hunt so I'd get in trouble packing a rifle
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Anyway this topic always comes up a few times a year.I think you all wrong. :chuckle:
Anything your sidearm can do ,my rifle does ten times better. :chuckle:
I would love to see your rifle fire 12 rounds of .40 cal before reload. :chuckle:
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My old pack I carried a cheap clip-on uncle Mikes thing, crossdraw, on the waist strap. My new pack had MOLLE/PALS webbing on the waist strap so I have an order in for an MOLLE holster from Ares tactical.
If i did not use a bino harness I would probably use the chest rig from Hill People Gear
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https://shop.opticsplanet.com/blackhawk-nylon-omega-vi-improved-universal-ambidextrous-drop-leg-holster.html?_iv_code=BW-HT-NOVIIUH-40ALH1BK&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2M7-y-PM2wIVFdlkCh35aQHSEAQYAiABEgK0RPD_BwE
This is the holster I use, it’s a drop leg. It’s surprisingly comfortable. A great deal for the price, it’s pretty much universal for handguns. It also never feels like it’s in the way
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Anyway this topic always comes up a few times a year.I think you all wrong. :chuckle:
Anything your sidearm can do ,my rifle does ten times better. :chuckle:
I would love to see your rifle fire 12 rounds of .40 cal before reload. :chuckle:
So you don't think a ar15 that holds 30 rounds won't put more down range than your 40 cal,also I hold more range and accuracy. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I'm using a Gunfighter Kenai holsters for either a Glock 40 10mm or a KelTec PMR 30.... Probably pack the PMR more, it's so light I never know it's there and 30 rounds of 22 mag, works for me.
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Anyway this topic always comes up a few times a year.I think you all wrong. :chuckle:
Anything your sidearm can do ,my rifle does ten times better. :chuckle:
I would love to see your rifle fire 12 rounds of .40 cal before reload. :chuckle:
So you don't think a ar15 that holds 30 rounds won't put more down range than your 40 cal,also I hold more range and accuracy. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Well played !
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I use my glock 23 with converted to sig 357 The most
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Gunfighter chest harness, does not interfere with anything and ready when you need it
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I made a custom bino harness with my holster built onto it
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Gunfighter chest harness, does not interfere with anything and ready when you need it
I just received my Gunfighter Kenai chest harness, a couple questions:
With moderate tension it appears to impede full-draw breaths, like if you're really hiking or climbing hard. Have you had this experience? I am going to go field-test it today and see if it's an issue.
I notice some rattling at the buckles when moving about in different positions, as the bands tense and ease due to chest movement. Have you noticed any excess noise from the buckles and if so how did you mitigate?
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Ive been putting my Blackhawk holster on the belt of my pack and it seems to work out just great for me. I carry a SnW 40 cal MnP. On the other side of my hip belt is my bear spray. I’d rather be over prepared I guess..
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Ive been putting my Blackhawk holster on the belt of my pack and it seems to work out just great for me. I carry a SnW 40 cal MnP. On the other side of my hip belt is my bear spray. I’d rather be over prepared I guess..
I also have a Blackhawk paddle holster and it also fits on my pack belt and I love it, though I definitely prefer the weight balance of the chest-carry, so I hope I can get the noise issues sorted out with the Kenai.
The customer service at GunFightersInc is pretty amazing and they're going to take the holster back and fix it for me and send it back for free.