Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on May 23, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
How embarrassing, but not a bad caller I must say, but I expected a bigger Rack! ;)
Doug
Post by: Henrydog on May 23, 2018, 11:42:44 AM
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Post by: Okanagan on May 23, 2018, 01:24:21 PM
my dad was hunting idaho with two buddies 30 years ago. On his way back to camp, really just right around the corner, he heard one of his friends rip off a TERRIBLE bugle. dad answered and as he walked around the bend in the trail with his arrows all safely in his quiver, he came face-to-face with a 5pt bull. Dad said that bull had the worst bugle he had ever heard! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Can ditto this story several times with myself and friends. I have decided that if it is a really lousy call sound, that it is likely a real bull. Almost no hunter would bugle that badly. :chuckle: I've heard real bulls merely wheeze like they have emphysema, bellow like a steer, etc. as their version of a bull bugle.
A newbie elk hunter friend tried bugling his first season. Immediately he heard what he thought was two other hunters on a nearby hill doing little bugles back at him and laughing. He started to sneak away when a very nice bull come off the hill and ran right up to him.
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 23, 2018, 09:47:20 PM
No, but the opposite sure has happened. A LOT
:yeah: But not as much.
Post by: Mudman on May 23, 2018, 10:06:35 PM
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Post by: Pete112288 on May 24, 2018, 12:30:21 AM
First one I had been right behind elk, and heard a bugle. Went back and fourth to find out it was another hunter on the other side of the brush. Never did see where the elk went since they had been headed straight for where he was standing and he claimed to never see or hear anything.
Another time me and another hunter got eachother super worked up. We were on Weyco land and it was the only hard to get to area with no roads with miles. Both of us got super excited until my head popped around a blind corner to see straight into a bow at full draw 5 yards away.
Then another I was trying to get a reaction out of a bull in a drainage. I would rush foreward in the brush, bugle, make noise, etc. Only get a chuckle back occasionally. Popped out on an ancient overgrown road to hear the tell tale signal of another hunter, a short light whistle.
I dont know how many times I have moved towards a sound in the woods to hear that quick pitch of a whistle that turns out to be another hunter.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 24, 2018, 03:38:55 AM
:chuckle:
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Post by: MADMAX on May 24, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
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Post by: boneaddict on May 24, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
sometimes I like to answer back with a nice rip and chuckle just to give them their thrill so they can come back on here and declare how the elk are really fired up :chuckle:
Post by: Stein on May 24, 2018, 08:46:33 AM
I like the roar of the diesel truck, silence, doors slamming then the call. Some with real sneeky skills even wait 2 minutes before letting a bugle go. :chuckle:
sometimes I like to answer back with a nice rip and chuckle just to give them their thrill so they can come back on here and declare how the elk are really fired up :chuckle:
You must be in a good area if they get out of the truck to call. Someday I'll invent a bugle that mounts to the exhaust and all you have to do is give it some gas every hundred yards up the road.
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 24, 2018, 09:10:35 AM
I get about 300 yards back up the hill and hear them following me and calling again. So I start cutting and yelping like a hen turkey...still got a bugle in response. So I second guess my original thought and sit for a minute until I see Big Enis and Lil' Enis working their way up to me :chuckle:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 24, 2018, 10:34:48 AM
Post by: Crunchy on May 24, 2018, 11:23:38 AM
I like the roar of the diesel truck, silence, doors slamming then the call. Some with real sneeky skills even wait 2 minutes before letting a bugle go. :chuckle:
sometimes I like to answer back with a nice rip and chuckle just to give them their thrill so they can come back on here and declare how the elk are really fired up :chuckle:
Hey it works! Not what I recommend but when elk are rutting they dont notice much other than other elk sounds. I called in a bull within 50 yards of my truck by accident.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on May 24, 2018, 12:24:02 PM
I'm also not an excellent caller but I've only once had a fired up bull spook off from bad calling - as long as I just keep calling. That one time the latex in my call split at a really bad time (snot-slinging, red-eyed heavy 6x6 at 65 yards whipping his head around after a 200 yard dead run to come kill the bull bugling below his cows), that sound was like someone stomping a burlap sack full of dropkick dogs, I tried to bugle a second time, same sound - he stopped motionless for a few seconds, trotted silently back to his cows and pushed them down into a canyon.
I have heard it said a real bull could never finish in the top 5 at the National calling championships.
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 25, 2018, 10:25:13 AM
I've called in a wdfw employee with some chuckles. I also called in a father and son team twice within 2 hrs. The first time was funny, we laughed about it. The second time they came in to my bugeling using hoochie mommas. Me and my friend just snuck away.
in my experience, tooting on a hoochie mamma is like pulling a fire alarm at a high school... best way to clear your side of the mountain... :chuckle:
Post by: branches on May 25, 2018, 05:24:58 PM
I have never been fooled by a hunter thinking it was a Bull but have been fooled a few times thinking it was a hunter but ended up being a BullDang it !!!!! I have had a few times that I would have bet the farm that it was a hunter only to find out it was a real bull.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 27, 2018, 07:31:23 AM
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Post by: gee_unit360 on May 27, 2018, 09:24:20 AM
I've called in a wdfw employee with some chuckles. I also called in a father and son team twice within 2 hrs. The first time was funny, we laughed about it. The second time they came in to my bugeling using hoochie mommas. Me and my friend just snuck away.
in my experience, tooting on a hoochie mamma is like pulling a fire alarm at a high school... best way to clear your side of the mountain... :chuckle:
Post by: gee_unit360 on May 27, 2018, 09:27:19 AM
I've called in a wdfw employee with some chuckles. I also called in a father and son team twice within 2 hrs. The first time was funny, we laughed about it. The second time they came in to my bugeling using hoochie mommas. Me and my friend just snuck away.
in my experience, tooting on a hoochie mamma is like pulling a fire alarm at a high school... best way to clear your side of the mountain... :chuckle:
I got a Bull with his 30 cows to come in to my hoochie mama last year. Never had any luck with it before that, but after listening to that heard of cows chirping back and forth a soft hoochie mama call was pretty spot on.
Post by: The scout on May 27, 2018, 10:20:38 AM
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Post by: idaho guy on May 29, 2018, 03:12:45 PM
I have called in a few guys. Haven’t been called in yet though. The first year I did archery I carried a hoochie mama and was using at one point to get my buddy’s attention because I had just shot a bull, and ended up getting a big herd bull fired up and he ended up shooting it. So they can work even though they don’t sound realistic.
The hoochie does sound realistic its just sounds the same all the time. If you can find an elk that has not heard it 100 times a day since a week before season they work good especailly as part of a calling sequence. I call you Washington guys in all the time when you come to Idaho :chuckle: but not usually with a hoochie!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 30, 2018, 08:01:02 AM
I have called in a few guys. Haven’t been called in yet though. The first year I did archery I carried a hoochie mama and was using at one point to get my buddy’s attention because I had just shot a bull, and ended up getting a big herd bull fired up and he ended up shooting it. So they can work even though they don’t sound realistic.
The hoochie does sound realistic its just sounds the same all the time. If you can find an elk that has not heard it 100 times a day since a week before season they work good especailly as part of a calling sequence. I call you Washington guys in all the time when you come to Idaho :chuckle: but not usually with a hoochie!
Exactly. The problem with the HM is not that it doesn't sound like a cow elk, the problem is that you can't vary the tone. It sounds exactly the same no matter who pushes it. And it's so easy to use that tons of guys carry one (and a lot of them overuse it). The elk get educated to the tone and know only a dude with a weapon makes that noise. If you found elk that weren't educated, it would be a great tool. But I know using it in the Blue Mountains during archery season you'd be lucky to find a spike that still thinks its an elk.
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on May 30, 2018, 10:04:41 AM
The problem with the HM is not that it doesn't sound like a cow elk, the problem is that you can't vary the tone. It sounds exactly the same no matter who pushes it. And it's so easy to use that tons of guys carry one (and a lot of them overuse it).The elk get educated to the tone and know only a dude with a weapon makes that noise. If you found elk that weren't educated, it would be a great tool.
Pathfinder101, I have great results calling in the Cows with my HM Call.
Problem will be, if and when I finally call in a Big Bull! :chuckle:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 30, 2018, 10:07:26 AM
The problem with the HM is not that it doesn't sound like a cow elk, the problem is that you can't vary the tone. It sounds exactly the same no matter who pushes it. And it's so easy to use that tons of guys carry one (and a lot of them overuse it).The elk get educated to the tone and know only a dude with a weapon makes that noise. If you found elk that weren't educated, it would be a great tool.
Pathfinder101, I have great results calling in the Cows with my HM Call.
Problem will be, if and when I finally call in a Big Bull! :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Tbob on June 02, 2018, 02:30:55 PM
I've called in a wdfw employee with some chuckles. I also called in a father and son team twice within 2 hrs. The first time was funny, we laughed about it. The second time they came in to my bugeling using hoochie mommas. Me and my friend just snuck away.
in my experience, tooting on a hoochie mamma is like pulling a fire alarm at a high school... best way to clear your side of the mountain... :chuckle:
My buddy of mine called in a monster 7x7 using only his Hoochie momma.. ya just never know!
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 14, 2018, 08:58:51 AM
In a Hancock gated road system, GATED I say, hear a deep throated bugle one ridge away. My buddy and I put the sneak on, pop out on the road, find a stashed mini-bike along the road and a guy with an electronic caller on the landing playing the same bugle sequence over and over again through his speaker. All day long we could hear this guy bombing around the unit on his mini-bike, behind the gates :bash:. Run bike, electronic call, run bike, electronic call, over and over and over. Called him in to WDFW Enforcement but don't know if he was ever caught. >:(
Would have been easier for WDFW to catch him with the air let out of his tires... :rolleyes:
Post by: 4fletch on June 14, 2018, 09:12:11 AM
It 1 called in lots of elk
Post by: mikelonsford on July 03, 2018, 11:23:25 PM
After those incidents we decided to consider every elk sound an elk until we saw a person and knew it wasn’t. Then we started getting into Mexican standoff’s with lots of hunters. And we did call a Lot in. Enough that we quit hunting Lewis River as much as we had. It was several times a day and we were hiked back up in the wilderness. There was a lot of wasted time. So then we decided to play the scenarios like we do elk. Have the shooter stay up and have the caller head back. Draw the other party, elk or hunter, forward and that definitely helped speed up the game. It started only taking a few minutes to pull hunters in. Like I said there were too many though. So we found some other areas with fewer hunters.
Post by: greenhead_killer on July 04, 2018, 01:05:25 AM