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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 24, 2018, 04:24:12 PM

Title: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 24, 2018, 04:24:12 PM: Tyler Freel posted this today. He’s killed a LOT of critters. (11 fall sheep). Besides the fact that he killed it with a stone arrow head and stick bow.

Final score was 7’ squared bear, 19 1/4” skull, and live weighed at....248 lbs.

Please subtract at least 100 lbs from all your guesstimates.

I know you’re brothers friend said it was 300+. It wasn’t.

Preach Tyler.

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: The scout on May 24, 2018, 04:43:29 PM: So he hauled the bear outta the woods with the guts in it to prove a point or what?
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Timberstalker on May 24, 2018, 06:01:37 PM: Fake news!

That’s a 500# bear.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: lewy on May 24, 2018, 06:03:13 PM: Is this a spring bear? If so that weight will change dramatically by fall
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: JWEBB on May 25, 2018, 11:39:54 PM: Quote from: The scout on May 24, 2018, 04:43:29 PM
So he hauled the bear outta the woods with the guts in it to prove a point or what?
:yeah: never heard of someone dragging out a bear with guts still in
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 26, 2018, 09:27:28 AM: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180526/99facc92d14a8d9f78bcea6430e9e6d8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: MisplacedAlaskan on May 26, 2018, 12:20:44 PM: Skull measurements are the only numbers that count. Not sure why weight is always brought up.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: lewy on May 26, 2018, 01:46:27 PM: “Please subtract 100 lbs from all your guesstimates”

Lol, what a statement. Get off ur pedestal bud
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 26, 2018, 04:27:45 PM: Quote from: lewy on May 26, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
“Please subtract 100 lbs from all your guesstimates”

Lol, what a statement. Get off ur pedestal bud

If some guy came on here claiming his buck was 195” when it was clearly 130-40” you wouldn’t expect him to get grief? There’s multiple bears right now posted in the bear forum that are insanely off.

If you didn’t weigh him on a scale, don’t post the weight is all I’m saying.

Why don’t we ever get guys to show skull measurements? It literally takes 5 min and 2 2x4s.

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: KFhunter on May 26, 2018, 05:36:49 PM: You forgot to add 8 lbs or so for estimated blood loss
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: lewy on May 26, 2018, 05:58:43 PM: Quote from: SilkOnTheWetSide on May 26, 2018, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: lewy on May 26, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
“Please subtract 100 lbs from all your guesstimates”

Lol, what a statement. Get off ur pedestal bud

If some guy came on here claiming his buck was 195” when it was clearly 130-40” you wouldn’t expect him to get grief? There’s multiple bears right now posted in the bear forum that are insanely off.

If you didn’t weigh him on a scale, don’t post the weight is all I’m saying.

Why don’t we ever get guys to show skull measurements? It literally takes 5 min and 2 2x4s.

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If your so worried about it call them out individually. Instead you start a thread and make a comment that will be read by some people who have probably forgotten about more bears than you’ve seen.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Timberstalker on May 26, 2018, 06:16:10 PM: This seems like a better spot to have a discussion than on someone’s thread. I take this as an informational post.

Most bears are severely over estimated when it comes to weight and overall size in general.

Everyone I know has seen a 300# bear, the truth is they are probably 150# bears.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: eliandsky on May 26, 2018, 07:51:19 PM: I need to unsubscribe from huntwa.

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: j_h_nimrod on May 26, 2018, 10:24:24 PM: Yep, skull is really the only benchmark that can be reliably measured on most bears. I have “heard” of plenty of 500+ lb. bears, but weight is pretty subjective on all but a few bears I have ever been in on. I have been in on a few fall hunts over the last few years with skull measurements ranging from ~17 12/16” - 19 7/16” and not one weighed over 300 lbs. I harvested a huge fall sow that had over 80 lbs of boned meat in the quarters and back straps, probably 250-300 live weight, skull only went a little over 17” though.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: CaNINE on May 27, 2018, 06:13:07 AM: Didn’t have a scale but the four of us that it took to carry him up the hill all agreed he was at least 300 lbs. maybe he was only 250 but the thing was damn heavy.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 07:32:58 AM: SUPER CRUISER!!!!
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 27, 2018, 07:46:13 AM: Quote from: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 07:32:58 AM
SUPER CRUISER!!!!
that bear never gets old! What a monster!!!! Definitely not your run of the mill boar right there 😍
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 07:49:43 AM: Quote from: Karl Blanchard on May 27, 2018, 07:46:13 AM
Quote from: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 07:32:58 AM
SUPER CRUISER!!!!
that bear never gets old! What a monster!!!! Definitely not your run of the mill boar right there 😍

Without a doubt the coolest bear I’ve ever seen on this site!
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 27, 2018, 08:50:26 AM: Quote from: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 07:49:43 AM
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on May 27, 2018, 07:46:13 AM
Quote from: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 07:32:58 AM
SUPER CRUISER!!!!
that bear never gets old! What a monster!!!! Definitely not your run of the mill boar right there 😍

Without a doubt the coolest bear I’ve ever seen on this site!

That’s in my top 3 favorite bears I’ve seen in Washington. I wouldn’t bat an eye saying that was at or near guesstimated weight. Was there ever a skull size on that guy?

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: CaNINE on May 27, 2018, 10:13:20 AM: Official score is right at 20”. Tooth aging was 15 years old. Going to pick up the skill and mount in a month or two.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 10:19:17 AM: Pretty sure it was a Wyoming bear??

@CaNINE
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: The scout on May 27, 2018, 10:24:39 AM: That is an absolute stud bear. Last year I had a spring bear tag and the last day we hunted I saw a super stud right before dark. Wish I could have stayed one more day I’m sure I could have got him. Now he haunts my dreams from time to time. The picture of canines bear reminds me of him
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 27, 2018, 10:54:03 AM: Quote from: Timberstalker on May 27, 2018, 10:19:17 AM
Pretty sure it was a Wyoming bear??

@CaNINE

Ah. I’ll amend saying in top 3 of bears I’ve seen posted here.

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: CaNINE on May 27, 2018, 11:41:47 AM: Yes Wyoming. I saw a bear deep in the wenaha three years ago this June that was in this same class. I didn’t have my phone scope so only have images in my mind of that Bear. I’m backpacking back into my camp in two weeks and if I see him I will post up some pics. I’m overdue for a wenaha spring tag so have to rely on some mock hunts.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Rufous on May 27, 2018, 06:00:27 PM: I have posted this before but will say it again. Carry a cloth measuring tape and measure the girth and length of the bear. Also weigh 4 legs bone in but minus the paws. I believe that based on a bear weight chart if you multiply the weight of the legs times 3.3 that will be pretty close to the live weight. In any case it is easy to weigh the legs and at least that figure can be reported for those interested in such things. I have killed 11 bears and have been with friends for quite a few more. Some certainly bigger than others. My biggest was a 13 year old boar from the Wenaha 20" skull, hide squared 6' 10" and legs weighed 120#. The hide with skull weighed 80#.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: CaNINE on May 28, 2018, 06:55:18 AM: Rufous that’s a dang nice bear in your avatar pic. Is that your 20” wenaha bear?
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Rufous on May 28, 2018, 08:25:27 AM: The bear in my Avatar pic is a younger, smaller boar. I shot it with my Ruger Bisley 45 Colt in the Dayton unit May of 2007. The skull was not quite 18" IIRC. It was 7 years old.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 28, 2018, 09:49:38 AM: Quote from: Rufous on May 28, 2018, 08:25:27 AM
The bear in my Avatar pic is a younger, smaller boar. I shot it with my Ruger Bisley 45 Colt in the Dayton unit May of 2007. The skull was not quite 18" IIRC. It was 7 years old.

Rufous, I remember that formula from similar discussions last year.

Do you happen to have some pictures of that 20” stud? Almost a 7’...it’s what I’m holding out for on my next tag.

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Rufous on May 28, 2018, 05:05:15 PM: Here is a link to my account of the bear from my Avatar. My biggest bear was shot before I became a member here. I will see if I can find a pic somehow to post.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,1002.msg9288.html#msg9288
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Rufous on May 28, 2018, 05:29:04 PM: Hopefully this will work to attach a couple pics. Unfortunately I was by myself so I did not get the best pics.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 28, 2018, 05:49:33 PM: I shot a 6-7 or 6-9 bear. Can’t remember. Skull is around 18-1/2. The 4 legs at the butcher bone in weighed 92 lb. not sure live weight but suspected 275 ish.
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: CaNINE on May 28, 2018, 05:54:58 PM: Quote from: Rufous on May 28, 2018, 05:05:15 PM
Here is a link to my account of the bear from my Avatar. My biggest bear was shot before I became a member here. I will see if I can find a pic somehow to post.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,1002.msg9288.html#msg9288
:tup:
I went back and read some of your hunt threads...you’ve had some great bear hunts Rufous!
Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 28, 2018, 09:36:51 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on May 28, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
I shot a 6-7 or 6-9 bear. Can’t remember. Skull is around 18-1/2. The 4 legs at the butcher bone in weighed 92 lb. not sure live weight but suspected 275 ish.

I would say that’s a fair estimation, and wouldn’t doubt that.

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Title: Re: Suspect Bear Weight
Post by: Rufous on May 29, 2018, 02:13:13 AM: CaNine, yes I have been fortunate to have had some great adventures out after the bears. I miss it, having moved to Michigan a couple years ago.